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To: Korth
Although I am a practicing eastern Orthodox Christian, I come from a Jewish background.

How could a person of Jewish background possibly be Eastern Orthodox? Has this guy ever heard of St. John Chrysostom? He ought to read some of the stuff Chrysostom wrote. He would hate himself.

7 posted on 08/21/2003 3:29:15 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
How could a person of Jewish background possibly be Eastern Orthodox? Has this guy ever heard of St. John Chrysostom? He ought to read some of the stuff Chrysostom wrote. He would hate himself.

Maybe one of his parents was Eastern Orthodox, and his belief in Christ led him to embrace that particular expression of the Christian faith.

By the way,Chrysostom was pretty critical of Christians. One of his most famous quotes is "The road to hell is paved with the skulls of priests". I've never read his anti-Jewish rhetoric in context; I've read one quote of his about the Jews, and it looked horrific.

8 posted on 08/21/2003 4:56:27 PM PDT by Clintons a commie
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To: Inyokern; Korth; MarMema; Clintons a commie
John Chrysostom is not only an Eastern Orthodox Saint, but Roman Catholic as well. In Orthodoxy, he is the cornerstone, along with Basil the Great, of the faith, and in the RC Church he is officially designated as the Doctor of the Church.

One would have to know Orthodoxy to realize that there is nothing in this faith that can be construed as based on hate. No one quotes Chrysostom's homilies against the Jews. St. Thomas Aquinas, Martin Luther and other prominent Christians have used language that today would be considered highly antisemitic. But there is a difference between opinion and theology. Quite a number of Roman popes were less than deserving of their throne, yet do one dozen or so corrupt individuals corrupt the entire church and undo all the good deeds and honorable people in it? Does one Menachim Begin, a terrorist, invalidate the State of Israel? Does one Wagner invalidate all of German music?

Chrysostom was equally harsh, primarily on his own clergy, monks, and imperial courtesans. His homilies against the Jews were written before his ordination as a priest and certainly way before he was ever elevated to the Bishop of Constantinople.

Chrysostom considered priests and bishops who gave in to sin as doubly guilty -- because they should know better -- and maintained that there are so many corrupt priests and bishops that they will line the path to hell.

One ofm the first things he did as the Imperial Bishop was to prohibit female servants in clergy's homes. He was especially harsh on vanity of elderly women, including Imperial family and even the heretic Empress indirectly. That didn't win him friends or favors and in fact lead to his sudden demise after a brief period of great influence in the Imperial City. One can say that he was harsh and didn't tolerate the "wobbly" and the corrupt no matter who they were. He is mostly remembered as the father of the modern Liturgy, a divine service in content and melody. He is remembered and revered for his Christianity.

15 posted on 02/23/2004 6:39:07 AM PST by kosta50
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