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The Guild 8-23-2003 Hamas Calls Bush 'Islam's Biggest Enemy'
WashPost ^ | 8-23-2003 | The Associated Press

Posted on 08/23/2003 9:41:39 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - A leader of the Palestinian militant group Hamas on Saturday called President Bush an enemy of Islam because the U.S. government froze the assets of Hamas leaders in response to a suicide bombing of a bus in Jerusalem.

Speaking to Dubai-based Al-Arabiya TV, Abdel Aziz Rantisi called the action "a theft of Muslim money by the Americans" and said the frozen money doesn't belong to Hamas.

"Hamas does not have any money in the U.S., Europe or even in the Arab states. President Bush has become Islam's biggest enemy," Rantisi said in the interview.

On Friday, the United States froze the assets of six Hamas leaders, including Rantisi, an aide to Sheik Ahmed Yassin, the group's spiritual leader. The United States also froze the assets of five European-based organizations that it said raise money for the radical Palestinian group.

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Thank you for being the enemy of Islam (radicals) President Bush.
1 posted on 08/23/2003 9:41:39 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; mountaineer; Timeout; ClancyJ; BlessedAmerican; daisyscarlett; LBGA; Rheo; ..
If you want to send LBGA a note please get it to me this week, I'd like to send out the album and books this week. Thanks.
2 posted on 08/23/2003 9:43:30 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout; mountaineer
Still no report on the Canadian terrorists eh, except for the one you found mountaineer. Very Strange.

T - I'm waiting for the day algore comes out of the closet.

3 posted on 08/23/2003 9:50:23 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Aggie Mama
Got the pages you made for LBGA's album! Thanks so much, they're really neat. Very very cute!

You are a super woman, taking care of the children and a new baby and still have time to make someone else happy.

10-Q 10-Q 10-Q!!

4 posted on 08/23/2003 9:53:44 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Abdel Aziz Rantisi called the action "a theft of Muslim money by the Americans" and said the frozen money doesn't belong to Hamas.


"Hamas does not have any money in the U.S., Europe or even in the Arab states. President Bush has become Islam's biggest enemy," Rantisi said in the interview.

Huh?

Rantisi - don't wrap the towel so tightly around your head.
5 posted on 08/23/2003 10:23:15 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Huh?

:-) Radical Islam and the truth are like oil and water.

Iraqis Assist Soldiers with disabled vehicle near Fallujah

Very good story!

6 posted on 08/23/2003 10:58:01 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
A most excellent story - thanks for linking it.

Send us your rain, please. It's getting toasty here...

7 posted on 08/23/2003 11:24:11 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: BigWaveBetty
A few reports in Canadian newspapers about the arrests, and a story in the WashPost (which was what the Buffalo paper picked up and published, and I posted on the previous thread). Other than that, it isn't considered much of a story, I guess. I wonder how many lives were saved by virtue of those arrests.
8 posted on 08/23/2003 3:00:10 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
No doubt Hamas is pleased to read this in the NY Times:

Europe Reacts Coolly to Bush's Call to Freeze Charities' Assets
By CRAIG S. SMITH


ARIS, Aug. 23 — Europe has reacted tepidly to President Bush's call to freeze the assets of four European charities said by the administration to be sending cash to Palestinian militants. That sets the stage for another trans-Atlantic rift over Middle East policy.

Rudolf Gollia, a spokesman for Austria's Interior Ministry, said the country's counterterrorism agency had already investigated one of the groups, the Palestinian Association in Austria, and had found no evidence of wrongdoing. "Under Austrian law there were no grounds for punitive action," Mr. Gollia told the Austria Press Agency late on Friday after Mr. Bush had spoken.

Both French and European Union officials said any decision on freezing assets would probably be made jointly by European foreign ministers over the next few weeks and would require a thorough review of the charities' activities.

"The European ministers and experts will look at the question and there will be a 15-country debate," a French diplomat said here today, adding that only then would there be a decision. The ministers are scheduled to meet in Italy on the first weekend in September.

Mr. Bush demanded Friday that the assets of five charities be frozen along with those of six top officials of Hamas, the Palestinian organization whose military wing has claimed responsibility for the deadly suicide attack on a Jerusalem bus on Tuesday.

Four of those organizations are based in Europe: the French-based Committee for Welfare and Relief for Palestine; the Palestinian Relief Association in Switzerland; the Palestinian Relief and Development Fund, or Interpal, with headquarters in Britain; and the Palestinian Association in Austria. The fifth charity, the Sanabil Association for Relief and Development, is based in Lebanon.

Mr. Bush's demand highlights a stark difference between how the United States and Europe, with its large and growing Muslim population, have dealt with Palestinian activists. Europe has resisted Bush administration requests that it blacklist Hamas's political wing, which many European leaders contend is a legitimate organization.

The administration's call for cooperation by "all nations supportive of peace in the Middle East" again casts Europe as a potential impediment to American foreign policy, as it was in the months ahead of the Iraq war. United States pressure on Europe to comply also risks reopening rifts within the 15-member European Union that yawned wide during the Iraq debate when some countries supported Washington and others did not.

The European Union has labeled Hamas's military wing a terrorist organization. But the question of freezing assets of the group's political wing, let alone those of charities that many Europeans consider vital to providing services to the Palestinian people, remains divisive.

While individual European countries are free to bar organizations unilaterally, they have agreed to operate jointly. In part that is meant to improve efficiency — with a common banking system, any freeze on assets in one European country could easily be sidestepped by transferring those assets to another — but there is also the wish to maintain a unified Middle East policy. "Clearly it's an issue of foreign policy where the European Union wants to stay together," said Joost Korte, deputy chief of cabinet for Christopher Patten, the European commissioner for external affairs.

The charities themselves reacted angrily today, saying that they had no links to Hamas and that their funds were not diverted from humanitarian ends.

Ibrahim Hewitt, the chairman of Interpal, said his organization was investigated for similar allegations in 1996 by Britain's Charity Commission, a regulatory body, and given a clean bill of health. Since then, he said, it has maintained close contacts with the commission and the local police. "I would hope that the government would go along with what their own civil servants advise," he said.

A spokesman for Britain's Foreign Office said today that any action against Interpal would be up to the Charity Commission.

Mr. Hewitt said he did not know how his group got on the United States blacklist. A recent Federal Bureau of Investigation report linked Interpal with an American-based charity whose assets the Bush administration froze in 2001 for supporting Hamas's military wing. But Mr. Hewitt said the only link was a $66,000 wire transfer from the United States charity to his group for providing meat from slaughtered sheep for religious feasts in the Middle East.

He said he had no knowledge of Hamas activists who the F.B.I. has charged are members of some charities to which his organization sends money. "We don't deal with individuals," he said. "We operate through charities over there that are registered with the Palestinian and Israeli authorities and we have a very bureaucratic paper trail to ensure that we know how the money is being spent."

He called on the United States to provide evidence that the named organizations were helping finance militant activities. "If we've done wrong, tell us and we'll correct it," he said.

Youcef Benderbal, spokesman for the Committee for Welfare and Relief for Palestine, said his organization was "shocked and revolted" to be associated with Hamas.

"I am amazed," he said, "that the president of a country such as the United States would mix things up like he did, and take it out against a humanitarian organization."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/24/international/europe/24HAMA.html?ex=1062302400&en=12f3b0841c3c6eb7&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
9 posted on 08/23/2003 3:06:51 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
I am amazed that Christian countries let these people come into our lands.

Why?
10 posted on 08/23/2003 3:34:42 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Perhaps President Bush should send each European leader this photograph, taken immediately following Tuesday's bus bombing for which Hamas took "credit":

Breaks my heart every time I see it. Do any of you know whether this toddler survived?

11 posted on 08/24/2003 4:19:55 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Excellent post.

Cheers guys.
12 posted on 08/24/2003 7:00:57 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Timeout; *The GUILD
Quotes & Toasts of the Day -

"I read somewhere that 77% of all the mentally ill live in poverty. Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 percent who are apparently doing quite well for themselves." - Jerry Garcia (Grateful Dead)

"I discovered I scream the same way whether I'm about to be devoured by a Great White or if a piece of seaweed touches my foot." - Axel Rose (Guns'n'Roses)

13 posted on 08/24/2003 7:06:54 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: lodwick
Most of the mediaCrats seem not to have noticed the irony in trumpeting the removal of the 10 commandments from a Montgomery courthouse while simultaneously celebrating MLK's "I have a Dream" speech whose very foundation came from the Old Testament.
14 posted on 08/24/2003 7:26:52 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
I believe that baby died. When I first saw the unedited video I couldn't catch my breath. Those murderous bastards.
15 posted on 08/24/2003 7:40:12 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (A McClintock supporter would rather keep Davis than elect Arnold just so they can say I told you so')
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Wolf Blitzer just asked Howard Dean to tell us who his foreign affairs advisors are. Other than "Gen. Hoar", he declined to name them. Interesting.
16 posted on 08/24/2003 10:10:39 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Howie was afraid it would be too obvious if he said, "Fidel Castro" or "Alec Baldwin."
17 posted on 08/24/2003 10:35:03 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
LOL!

Oh, wait! Were you kidding?
18 posted on 08/24/2003 1:45:24 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: All
Clinton's India Connection (a who's who).
19 posted on 08/24/2003 4:03:41 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Reporting in. Back in a bit.
20 posted on 08/24/2003 7:00:48 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: BigWaveBetty
I can't believe you got them so fast! I'm no superwoman--I had 2 friends help me make some. Now, if I could keep my house clean--then I would be superwoman. =)

What does 10-Q mean?
21 posted on 08/24/2003 7:42:04 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Iowa Granny
Welcome back, IG. Was the resort as fabulous as it looked in the pics? I spent the weekend on yardwork and need a vicarious travel experience so do tell us about it.
22 posted on 08/24/2003 7:48:55 PM PDT by MaeWest
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To: MaeWest
Tan-Tara seemed to me to be a bit 'worn'. The grout between the tiles in the bathroom was dark and discolored. The balcony was secure, but could never be described as upscale.

The rooms were nice and recently redecorated, the bathrooms and balconies were in need of attention. The connecting halls, which connect the various buildings were adequet, brightly lit, but not equal to the newly redecorated rooms.

The resturant has a lovely weekend buffet breakfast. No complaints about the food. The decor in the resturant and bar is "Lodge",, the view of the water is lovely, but much of the waterscape is blocked by trees.

This would never be a destination for me, if I had a choice. The 'choice' wasn't mine. Hubby was in meetings on Friday,, I got a good start on Treason. It was too hot to sit on the balcony to read.

There is a very nice Outlet Mall not far away. Jones New York, Polo, Liz, Hartstrings (a Grandma's paradise), Coach. The stores and merchandise were quite similar to the Outlet Mall not far from my home,, except we have not Hartstrings here.
23 posted on 08/24/2003 8:35:50 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
Is it my imagination or are a lot of resorts in the same situation? With the economy picking up perhaps they will have the cash flow to get their standards back up. Glad to hear the food was yummy. A good restaurant can really cover a multitude of weaknesses in my book.
24 posted on 08/24/2003 9:14:52 PM PDT by MaeWest (Say what you will, it beats pulling ivy.)
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To: Iowa Granny
Tan-Tar-A has to be around 40 years old, so I'm not surprised it's looking a bit worn. My parents went there on business junkets in the mid-1970s, and my Missouri prosecutors' meetings there were in the late 80s/early 90s. Glad you're back safely, though.
25 posted on 08/25/2003 5:05:16 AM PDT by mountaineer
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Today's news morsels:

THERE may soon be less of Star Jones to pass around. Spies say the corpulent commentator of "The View" is going to get gastric bypass surgery, which is now commonplace among portly celebs. Jones, who has battled her weight for years, has finally bit the bullet and hopes to shed the pounds like Al Roker and Carnie Wilson. Talk is that Barbara Walters will document the weight loss for an ABC special, but Walters' rep denied this. A rep for Jones snapped: "I don't know. I don't comment on my stars' personal lives."

If only she could do something surgically about her big mouth!

Knowing how much Hillary cares about the "little people" ...

HILLARY Clinton's memoir "Living History" earned the junior Senator an $8 million advance, but some say it cost 75 employees at Simon & Schuster their jobs. Just weeks after S&S published Clinton's autobio, the publisher laid off 75 employees. A company rep says "there's no connection" between Clinton's fat payday and the mass layoffs, but the New York Press begs to differ. The paper points out that even if Clinton manages to sell 1.5 million copies - 1.2 million have been sold since June 9 and sales are slipping rapidly - the publisher can't possibly make back the money it lavished on her. Of course, S&S can dole out whatever obscene sums it wants, but, the paper notes, it "should be known that the result of the overpayment . . . is that 75 men and women no longer have jobs." Page Six

26 posted on 08/25/2003 5:10:13 AM PDT by mountaineer
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Yikes, maybe Star Jones is contemplating gastric bypass because diets make her cranky:

A chubby Queens woman hacked her mother-in-law to death with a meat cleaver after the older woman refused to serve her rice with dinner because it's too fattening, authorities said yesterday. full story

27 posted on 08/25/2003 5:20:32 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
I just remembered (Slap my forehead!) I'm one of those who went to business conferences at Tan-Tar-A in the late 70's.

I'd forgotten all about it. I clicked on the link to look at it and....BANG!...the memory came back. It was considered quite La-De-Da back then, but it lives in my memory as "The Brady Bunch on a splurge vacation".
28 posted on 08/25/2003 5:38:32 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
It always was hard for me to get real excited about a trip to the Ozarks, even to a ritzy resort. The Greenbrier or the Broadmoor, that would have been another story.
29 posted on 08/25/2003 5:43:08 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Especially in AUGUST!
30 posted on 08/25/2003 6:10:19 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Aggie Mama
10-Q = Thank you.

Just passing through to say hi, more work to do now that the kids are in school. How did that happen?

31 posted on 08/25/2003 10:16:48 AM PDT by pubmom
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To: pubmom
more work to do now that the kids are in school. How did that happen?

With the kids gone, you actually have a momment to look around and notice what needs to be done.

This is the first time in 30 years I haven't sent someone off to school. I am feeling very 'out of the loop' and certainly not with it.

32 posted on 08/25/2003 12:00:29 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
With the kids gone, you actually have a momment to look around and notice what needs to be done.


...and then you realize that you have neither the energy nor the desire to do any of it...
33 posted on 08/25/2003 12:13:22 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: Iowa Granny
Since you are a farmer, I thought I would tell you about my farming experiences this summer.

I planted 10 tomato plants this spring. I like a nice fresh tomato, so I planted 10, just in case a couple died.

Why have I not been on FR lately?

BECAUSE IT'S FREAKIN' HARVEST TIME!!!!

I am overrun in tomatoes. I am picking them daily. My stovetop is all tomatoes, my windowsills are tomatoes, my plants are still covered in tomatoes.

I have made gallons of sauce, I have given bag upon bag to the homeless shelter.

I just went outside to water these evil beast of a plant, and those stupid things are growing more flowers. I have to get read for round two.

WILL THIS EVER END!!
34 posted on 08/25/2003 2:08:57 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (A McClintock supporter would rather keep Davis than elect Arnold just so they can say I told you so')
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
10 plants is quite a few for one person. Unfortunately, tomatoes are not as difficult to give away as zucinni. There's a guy in our community who leaves zucinni on doorsteps, sort of like May Baskets, then rings the door bell and runs!

If you don't want anymore tomatoes, quit watering them. The vines will wither and die and your problem will be solved.

It has been so hot and dry here, my largest tomato has been no larger than a baseball. I am used to the softball sized ones which hang out on the sides of a hamburger bun.
35 posted on 08/25/2003 2:35:42 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
The French gov't has declared that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are NOT terrorist organizations. (This isn't a joke)
36 posted on 08/25/2003 3:33:50 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Iowa Granny
Fuggedabout sharks...

Teen Dies When Fish Jumps in His Throat

Gag!

37 posted on 08/25/2003 3:43:27 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
I'm not laughing. Once again, the French show that they and reality are total strangers.

I wonder how long they think they'll be protected from terrorist attacks by siding with our enemies?

38 posted on 08/25/2003 3:56:24 PM PDT by pubmom
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To: pubmom
The terrorist aren't going to attack France. They're gonna take over from inside the country.
39 posted on 08/25/2003 4:42:34 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: lodwick
WHY?

How hungry was the first person who opened an oyster and STILL ate it?

Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, I think I'll squeeze
these dangly things here, and drink whatever comes out!"

Who was the first person to say, "See that chicken there? I'm gonna eat
the next thing that comes outta it's butt"

Why do toasters always have a setting that burns the toast to a horrible crisp, which no decent human being would eat?

If Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him?

If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of
coconut....why can't he fix a hole in a boat?

Why do people point to their wrist when asking for the time, but don't
point to their crotch when they ask where the bathroom is?

If quizzes are quizzical, what are tests?

If corn oil is made from corn, and vegetable oil is made from vegetables,
what is baby oil made from?

If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

Is Disney World the only people trap operated by a mouse?

Does the Alphabet song and Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star have the same
tune?

Why do they call it an asteroid when it's outside the hemisphere, but
call it a hemorrhoid when it's in your butt?

Did you ever notice that when you blow in a dog's face, he gets mad at
you, but when you take him for a car ride; he sticks his head out the
window?
40 posted on 08/25/2003 6:58:39 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
Howard Dean's not gonna be happy when he sees this picture in U.S.News:

It looks like he's trying to get blood from a turnip.

41 posted on 08/25/2003 7:56:40 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Before this is all over, there will be several things Howie Dean is not happy about.
42 posted on 08/25/2003 8:26:46 PM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
John Podhoretz (rightly) reminds us this morning of where we were in August LAST YEAR:
A PAGE-ONE Washington Post article summed up this week's conventional wisdom perfectly:

"The president no longer enjoys the aura of invincibility that surrounded him only a few months ago . . . Democrats especially have re-evaluated his presidency and concluded that, on the issues now dominating the political debate, Bush does not have the upper hand."

Only one problem: The article by Dan Balz and Dana Milbank was published a year ago - on Aug. 11, 2002.

LOL! Dubya's about to hornswoggle 'em again. It's amazing how the MediaCrats keep wandering into the "diminished expectations" trap.
43 posted on 08/26/2003 5:07:56 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout
The terrorist aren't going to attack France. They're gonna take over from inside the country.

To say they already have is not hyperbole, in my opinion.

44 posted on 08/26/2003 5:15:05 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Timeout
Good Morning. Dark Clouds to the North of us, this morning, with just a little thunder. It's not likely we will get any rain out of it. When it gets this dry, and there is no moisture in the ground, it is not likely to break the cycle.
45 posted on 08/26/2003 5:16:47 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
Perhaps you can mend the situation with your tears of laughter:

N.O.W. to Endorse Carol Mosely Braun

(A perfect emblem of just how irrelevant the feminists have become)

46 posted on 08/26/2003 5:25:52 AM PDT by Timeout
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To: Iowa Granny; Timeout; *The GUILD
Two Willie Nelson concerts to support Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich's bid for the Democratic presidential nomination are being postponed.

The Sept. 1 concert in Des Moines and a Cleveland concert on Sept. 6 will be rescheduled for later in the fall, allowing the Kucinich campaign to make better use of the concerts' momentum heading into the primary season, a campaign statement said.

"It was a bit of a rush," campaign spokesman Jeff Cohen said Friday. "We've tripled our staff in Iowa and didn't want our staff working on concert promotion instead of field organizing."

People who already bought tickets will get refunds, the statement said.

Cohen said the concerts likely would be held in November.

Good morning everyone.
47 posted on 08/26/2003 5:46:47 AM PDT by lodwick
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48 posted on 08/26/2003 5:48:51 AM PDT by lodwick
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When New York Sen. Hillary Clinton was discussing her book with ABC's Barbara Walters in June, she said that if she catches hubby Bill cheating again, she'll keep it a secret and won't discuss the details outside of her marriage.

Apparently Bill Clinton has taken his wife's announcement to heart, so much so that he had a little announcement of his own last week.

"I'd love to play the field and run around," Mr. Clinton told a rapt audience in the New York Mets dining room during an impromptu visit to Shea Stadium.

According to the Village Voice, Clinton's bizarre admission came after telling the group that if he was a ballplayer, he'd probably play first base. But then the ex-philanderer-in-chief couldn't resist the double entendre, announcing that he was ready to "play the field." The comment was so jarring that the Voice felt compelled to note, "this is a direct quote." NewsMax
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Meanwhile, Hillary does the Hamptons:

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton was at the Militia Green park in Bridgehampton yesterday, announcing that the Town of Southampton will receive up to 10 environmentally friendly GEM electric cars. She then stepped into one and took Councilman Dennis Suskind for a ride - 10 feet in reverse. As he feigned fear, Clinton said, "I haven't driven in - oh my gosh - seven years." [Those Clintons are so in touch] NY Post

49 posted on 08/26/2003 5:57:09 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: lodwick
Good Morning! Have you spoken with your tenant lately? Crops are deteriorating in front of our eyes. Beans appear to be going dormant, waiting for moisture. It's going to be nearly impossible to fill out the pods before maturity.

Lots of corn fired above the ear and some is completely gone. 6 wks ago we had the potential for a record breaking crop.

I'm sure glad I didn't listen to my sons and purchase another bin.
50 posted on 08/26/2003 5:57:41 AM PDT by Iowa Granny
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