Vatican II taught correctly and clearly on this issue, and what they taught is the traditional doctrine of the Church.
For us uninformed (or misinformed) Protestants, what might that traditional doctrine of the Church be? Cites are good, if possible.
posted on 12/22/2003 6:34:10 AM PST
("Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything thats even REMOTELY true!" -- H. Simpson)
Post 57 & 58 are a good start. Aestus Veritatis has good references and DallasMike has some good links. Obviously, the two doctrines conflict. Whoa....I just realized today's date...good luck if your still around here...
posted on 02/13/2004 10:17:11 AM PST
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