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NEW EVIDENCE THAT VOLCANOS KILLED THE DINOSAURS -
Red Nova ^ | September 15, 2003

Posted on 09/15/2003 8:48:14 PM PDT by UnklGene

September 15, 2003

Could an enormous volcanic eruption have killed the dinosaurs?

Cardiff University -- The extinction of the dinosaurs -– thought to be caused by an asteroid impact some 65 million years ago –- was more likely to have been caused by a 'mantle plume' -– a huge volcanic eruption from deep within the earth's mantle, the region between the crust and the core of the earth.

This theory, already supported by a significant body of geologists and palaeontologists, is strengthened by new evidence to be presented at an international conference at Cardiff University on 11-12 September.

Research by an American earth scientist, Professor Gerta Keller and her team, suggests that a similar eruption under the Indian Ocean several million years before the extinction of the dinosaurs had a similarly devastating impact on the environment.

However, at this earlier time there is no evidence of any asteroid impact.

Her findings are based on analysis of microfossil assemblages, which were found inside cores that had been drilled deep into sediments on the ocean floor.

The eruptions that were responsible for these two extinction events were as a result of mantle plumes -– a phenomenon caused by rising hot mantle from deep within the earth.

Likened to the actions of a lava lamp, the mantle's heat causes it to rise and mushroom out; it then flattens causing the mantle to melt and erupt magma over the earth's surface and across an area of some 1,000 kilometres diameter.

These eruptions last between one and two million years and more than one million cubic kilometres of lava can be erupted in that time.

Today, we can witness seven huge remnants of such mantle plume activity. These are also known as 'hotspots' and are responsible for the volcanic activity on Iceland, the islands of Hawaii, Easter, Reunion, Tristan and Louisville as well as volcanism in the Afar region of Ethopia.

"Mantle plumes are literally a hot topic for debate," said conference organiser Dr Andrew Kerr of Cardiff University's School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Sciences.

"They are a catalyst for the formation of ocean basins and fundamentally reshaping the earth's surfaces. The massive outpouring of lava, ashes, and gas can have significant effects on climate, which destabilises the environment and have the potential to dictate the course of evolution. It is likely that were it not for mantle plumes, mammals would not have become predominant, and humankind would not be here today.

"Bizarrely, amongst earth scientists, there is also a vocal minority who don't believe that mantle plumes exist at all. This conference is therefore an opportunity to address these issues and validity of the links between mantle plumes with the evolution of life by bringing together geophysicists, petrologists and palaeontologists."


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; chicxulub; deccantraps; dinosaurs; gertakeller; godsgravesglyphs; history; paleontology
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To: Piltdown_Woman
I agree with you contention. We see earthquakes today in one part of the world followed by tremors around the globe which shows the movement of tetonic plates.

A shift in California sends pressure into the plate that gives in a shift in India or Japan or China.
41 posted on 10/15/2003 12:48:51 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Wake Up America, You're Dreaming!)
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To: Piltdown_Woman
And just as I posted that, I read a story that there was an earthquake in Tokyo. Let's see if we have one in the US in a week or so.
42 posted on 10/15/2003 12:50:19 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Wake Up America, You're Dreaming!)
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To: Fledermaus
Exactly my thoughts. We live on a dynamic planet.
43 posted on 10/15/2003 12:51:22 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: All
You folks obviously have no grand kids with whom you watched "The Land Before Time" movies endlessly.If you did you would know that it was most likely "Sarah" the obnoxious trisaratop who caused the mass extinction. She always thought she knew more than "Little Foot" She may have been the very first democrat ever on earth.
44 posted on 10/15/2003 12:53:22 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Piltdown_Woman
I read that in the Gulf of Mexico, it's flowing out of the bottom so freely they want to see if they can capture it. I even think a geoligist in Cuba, of all places, did the most research on the project.

I also read an article that theorizes "fossil fuel" is more than just that and oil is actually created under the Earth's crust and released.

And then there is technology. Back in the early 1970's the oil reserve estimates on the planet were so low compared to known reserves today it's laughable.
45 posted on 10/15/2003 12:56:12 AM PDT by Fledermaus (Wake Up America, You're Dreaming!)
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To: Fledermaus
I read a story that there was an earthquake in Tokyo. Let's see if we have one in the US in a week or so.

You may be interested in this website: Syzygyjob.com. Jim Berkland worked for the USGS until his earthquake predictions became too accurate, and they asked him to leave. He bases his predictions on tidal stresses caused by positions of the Sun and the Moon relative to our Earth (amongst other things). I find his work fascinating.

46 posted on 10/15/2003 12:58:09 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Graybeard58
She may have been the very first democrat ever on earth.

That's it!!!! Democrats caused the demise of the dinosaurs! Kids everywhere will be so displeased...and we'll get a whole new crop of Republicans. You've solved everything! :^)

47 posted on 10/15/2003 1:00:30 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Graybeard58
Hehe...my oldest daughter is named "Sarah"...we used to call her "Triceratopsian Sarah". Alas, she didn't like the moniker...but she knows her Triceratops now! :^)
48 posted on 10/15/2003 1:02:10 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Fledermaus
"I read that in the Gulf of Mexico, it's flowing out of the bottom so freely they want to see if they can capture it. "

Yup, I've read about that, seems this oil 'polution' in the Gulf is 'self-cleaning' and does not cause a threat to the animals and beaches.

49 posted on 10/15/2003 8:51:08 AM PDT by blam
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To: Piltdown_Woman; Fledermaus
Which was the topic of my Senior Thesis...however, my advisor thought it too ambitious of a project for an undergrad (and a woman), and thus my "thesis" never had any support.

It would have been an impressive amount of analytical work, and I'm sorry he didn't let you do it. I've done a lot of reading about hydrostatic shock, in the context of what happens when a small supersonic object hits a large, fluid-filled object (ie, bullet hitting body).

I'm sure that a large object hitting the earth at 7+ miles/sec would generate some really impressive shock waves. Doing a good simulation of how they would travel through the earth (and taking into account wave reflection and refraction as the waves go through various boundary layers ) would be impressive even as a master's thesis

50 posted on 10/15/2003 3:57:52 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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To: Piltdown_Woman; Fledermaus
I seem to vaguely recall an article which postulated that oil is still being created today

I've been hearing that too. Something about oil being created by anaerobic bacteria deep in the crust. Sulfur-reducing HAVE been found in deep oil deposits.

51 posted on 10/15/2003 4:07:04 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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To: Piltdown_Woman; Fledermaus
Hmm -- found interesting article where the author's hypothesis is that oil is a metabolic byproduct of the activity of hyperthermophyllic (high temperature loving) bacteria deep in the earth's crust, converting methane into petroleum
52 posted on 10/15/2003 4:39:38 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === (Finally employed again! Whoopie))
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To: SauronOfMordor
Ah! A referenced article posted on a seemingly-reputable website. Thanks!!! I will "digest" this with interest.
53 posted on 10/15/2003 10:58:21 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Fledermaus
ummmm....had to read my reply again to get up to speed...:) well I can only assume there were a whole boat load of dinosaurs along with other animals...sabertooth tigers..not you SABERTOOTH...and dinosaurs did have a span of millions of years...quite a successful species, yeah I think that would mean lots of pockets of fossil fuel for us to find...kinda like easter eggs...we got to hunt for the stuff. Those sneaky dinosaurs. I can hear them now planning those many years ago...huge convention halls fill with those guys...with TRex running the show don't ya know..saying, now lets all go and die off in remote inhospitable locations to make those stupid homosapiens in the future really work to get our reconstituted remains so they can drive their SUV's. Now if they were PC they would all die in one location without regard to race, color, political views or religion, etc. However, they may have been secregated as to kind, size etc. Interesting theory...if they kept to their own kind in their croaking locations...is TRex a 'higher grade' then say, Triceritops (sp)? Where was I?...oh yeah in answer to your question...I don't have a clue! :)

Red

54 posted on 10/16/2003 9:30:38 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Wm. Wallace did not cry 'diversity' while being disemboweled.)
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A (literal and figurative) Blast from the Past.

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55 posted on 09/21/2005 10:26:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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Moon over Chicxulub: Will Night Finally Fall on the Dinosaur-Extinction Debate?
American Scientist | November-December 1998 | Kirk Johnson
Posted on 09/21/2005 10:32:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1489125/posts


56 posted on 09/21/2005 10:34:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: blam

Just some global warming thoughts:

Do higher global temperature spkes increase volanic activity? As the plates expand from higher temperatures, there would be pressure, volanic activity, etc. Then "Walla," volcanic activity increases. That causes ash to block sunlight, which in turn cools the earth. Prettier sunsets, too.

Not to mention, there would be more moisture in the air with higher temperatures, more evaporation. And as I understand it, evaporation cools. The earth would 'sweat', and the 'sweat' would be recycled, I'd imagine.


57 posted on 09/22/2005 5:00:19 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Rules are no better than the SOB who comes up with them. Remember the Gorelick Wall.)
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To: Fledermaus

The crater is significantly smaller than the Gulf of Mexico. Since there are several other very large craters that do not seem to be associated with mass extinctions one theory has it that a key reason why this impact was so devastating was because it hit a very large carbonate platform.


58 posted on 09/22/2005 1:22:55 PM PDT by Fraxinus
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To: PatrickHenry
The more you know about dinos, the more you realize that the cause of their extinction was unprotected sex. (I know so many things ...)

OMG...hilarious!

59 posted on 09/22/2005 1:31:31 PM PDT by Soaring Feather (ROFLOL-Just a lurker.)
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60 posted on 01/25/2014 9:13:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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