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Former Pro-Quarterback Announces Campaign To Unseat Rep. Charlie Taylor (R-NC)
Roll Call ^ | July 19, 2005 | Josh Kurtz & Lauren W. Whittington

Posted on 07/20/2005 6:03:19 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

After weeks of cajoling from high-ranking Democrats — including former President Bill Clinton — former football star Heath Shuler announced Monday that he would challenge Rep. Charles Taylor (R-N.C.) next year.

(Excerpt) Read more at rollcall.com ...


TOPICS: North Carolina; Tennessee; Campaign News; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: charlestaylor; charlietayor; dumbjock; election2006; heathshuler; northcarolina
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1 posted on 07/20/2005 6:03:34 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clintonfatigued

Heath Shuler is one of the biggest busts in the history of the nfl. this guy really is as dumb as he seemed.


2 posted on 07/20/2005 6:05:12 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Clintonfatigued

At least Republican Quarterbacks (Warner, etc) have actually completed a pass.


3 posted on 07/20/2005 6:05:29 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; Congressman Billybob; Dan from Michigan; zbigreddogz; ...

Taylor was reelected last year by a 55% to 45% margin, running behind President Bush in the district.


4 posted on 07/20/2005 6:10:51 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
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To: Clintonfatigued

For a politician, he's a pretty good ex-football player.


5 posted on 07/20/2005 6:13:30 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I thought I was a Pro football fan. Who the hell is Heath Schuler? Never heard of him. Ain't that just like the Dems. They sure know how to pick a loser.


6 posted on 07/20/2005 6:14:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; JohnnyZ; AuH2ORepublican

Taylor needs to retire. Surely there must be some Republican with name ID who can hold the seat for us.


7 posted on 07/20/2005 6:26:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Schuler was a QB who busted big time with the AINTS. He was a Ryan Leaf before anyone knew who Ryan Leaf was.


8 posted on 07/20/2005 6:30:58 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (It's going to be a hoot to see the Swimmer judge ANYONE'S character.)
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To: nonliberal

Don't ever forget Aikman and Staubach.:)


9 posted on 07/20/2005 6:31:49 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (It's going to be a hoot to see the Swimmer judge ANYONE'S character.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

State Representative Wilma Sherill would be a good candidate, based on what little I know about her.


10 posted on 07/20/2005 6:37:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Was Rep. Charles Taylor (R-N.C.) the Congressman who just came back from Iraq raising doubts about the effort, or was that another Congressman from one of the Carolinas?


11 posted on 07/20/2005 6:37:53 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

I don't know about any Iraq trip. I do know that Rep. Walter Jones, Jr. (R-NC) has expressed doubts about the war. Perhaps he's the one you're thinking of.


12 posted on 07/20/2005 6:40:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Heath is a former U of Tennessee player. I saw somebody mention on a UT board that Heath supported and contribited to Congressman Van Hilleary back in 2002 and I know Van Hilleary is a rock solid conservative. If this is true maybe Shuler is a DINO.


13 posted on 07/20/2005 6:45:27 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Clintonfatigued
They should run a defensive back on the GOP side.....it would be no contest. :)

TOTAL 5 NFL Seasons
29 Games
22 Games Started
593 Pass attempts
292 completions
15 TD's 33 Interceptions 54.3 QB rating

JOEY HARRINGTON of all people has a 67.2 career rating.

14 posted on 07/20/2005 6:45:40 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

If Shuler is "Conservative" he should run to defeat Taylor in the primary, not in the Party of Pelosi.


15 posted on 07/20/2005 6:51:09 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: All
GOP - Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, John Elway, Steve Young, Brett Favre(???), Tommy Maddox, Kurt Warner, Dan Marino, Roger Staubach,

Dem - Heath Shuler, Rodney Peete(???),.......

And to top it off Shuler is a developer which may cost some votes, although he was a good college QB and that will gain some votes among Vols fans. I think he'd be a bigger threat near Knoxville though.

It is interesting that Heath backed Van Hilleary who was a very conservative Republican. I can understand the local politics and real estate ties, but if that was the case, why is he running in NC and not Knoxville(Or backing a TN GOP'er and not an NC pol)?

16 posted on 07/20/2005 7:06:08 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

He's just used to being picked off. It's nothing new....:)


17 posted on 07/20/2005 7:06:53 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: Dan from Michigan

If he ran as a Democrat in the TN-2nd, he'd get smoked. That district hasn't elected a 'Rat in over 150+ years, it went seemlessly from being a Whig stronghold to GOP without batting an eyelash.


18 posted on 07/20/2005 7:08:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm always at a disadvantage when people start in on sports references, since I don't know bubkas. Now if you wanna talk about Soap Operas...


19 posted on 07/20/2005 7:09:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Maybe Dan Snyder can be his campaign advisor ...


20 posted on 07/20/2005 7:15:11 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I've known about Aikman and Staubach, and it's a very good probability that Warner is a Republican, but where do you get your info on the other quarterbacks? Just curious.


21 posted on 07/20/2005 7:21:39 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (It's going to be a hoot to see the Swimmer judge ANYONE'S character.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Congressman Billybob

"Taylor needs to retire. Surely there must be some Republican with name ID who can hold the seat for us."



Mr. Armour, please pick up the white courtesy phone.


22 posted on 07/20/2005 7:24:55 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Is the heathen old enough to vote?


23 posted on 07/20/2005 7:25:54 PM PDT by x1stcav (Hooahh!)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

I heard Elway was a Republican but I had not seen it confirmed anywhere.


24 posted on 07/20/2005 8:03:35 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
GOP - Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, John Elway, Steve Young, Brett Favre(???), Tommy Maddox, Kurt Warner, Dan Marino, Roger Staubach,

Elway and Young are well known. The others donated to Bush. I believe Favre was on recordings, but wasn't sure about that.

25 posted on 07/20/2005 8:17:37 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: Clintonfatigued

heath's last good day on the field was as a quarterback at Tennessee. how is that going to help him in NC?


26 posted on 07/20/2005 8:32:37 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Dan from Michigan
favre did a lot of get out the vote automated phone calls for bush in 2000 and 2004.

I still think wisconsin would have been a red state if it wasn't for election fraud.
27 posted on 07/20/2005 8:34:18 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Clintonfatigued

Eh, I'm not worried yet. 10% may not be a huge landslide, but that's a lot for a D to make up against an incumbent.

NC hasn't exactly moved leftwards recently. Other then Easly, it keeps going R harder and harder. Look at Bush's 13% win and Burr's come from behind win.


28 posted on 07/20/2005 8:52:23 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Clintonfatigued
Heath Shuler . . . . . namesake of the infamous "Shuler Test".

When an athlete doesn't meets certain levels of mental and/or scholarly apptitude, he is said to have failed the "Shuler Test".

29 posted on 07/20/2005 8:54:54 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (When it's all said and done, someone starts another conversation.)
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To: zbigreddogz

The problem isn't the district, the problem is the incumbent himself.


30 posted on 07/20/2005 9:11:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*"Justice" is French for Getting Screwed By Liberals*)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What's wrong with the incumbent? Did he screw an aid or sell a car for half a million dollars to a lobbyist?


31 posted on 07/20/2005 10:58:36 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
I still think Ryan Leaf had some talent and he got sandbagged by Bobby Beathard. Beathard traded away Tony Martin, the Chargers' best receiver, just before Leaf's rookie season. There were two bums who couldn't get open playing at wide receiver when Leaf was a rookie (Brian Still and some other bum.) Leaf had nobody open to throw to and a bad coach named Kevin Gilbride, and the awful experience of his rookie year shook his confidence badly. Then Leaf got injured and missed a whole season, and when he came back he had a good coach (Mike Riley) but he still had nobody good to throw to. I watched those games and his receivers dropped so many passes. It was really a tough deal for Leaf, although I agree that he was overrated coming out of college.

Bobby Beathard was a gambler who signed a lot of unknown guys with strong athletic ability and gambled that they would turn into real NFL players. Some of them did (like Stan Humphries) but most of them never developed for the Chargers. He had better luck at Washington.

32 posted on 07/20/2005 11:11:36 PM PDT by defenderSD ("I am not a troll" said the troll as a thunderous Zot descended on him.)
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To: defenderSD; WinOne4TheGipper

I still fondly remember the pre-draft debate between picking Drew Bledsoe or Rick Mirer -- the beginning of the Patriots' resurgence to greatness.


33 posted on 07/21/2005 8:28:28 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country." -- Mitt Romney)
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To: zbigreddogz

Charlie Taylor was in a business arrangement with two men convicted of bank fraud. He is also a business partner with a Russian businessman who was once a General in the KGB.

At best, it looks bad. And this is not the first time Taylor has faced controversy regarding his financial dealings.


34 posted on 07/21/2005 9:32:12 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Still, Taylor has had "controversy" before and just keeps winning. Patsy Keever was supposed to be a great candidate for the Democrats last year and Taylor won by 10, again. Somewhat reminiscent of John Hostettler in Indiana.


35 posted on 07/21/2005 9:37:12 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country." -- Mitt Romney)
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To: JohnnyZ
I think part of Hostettler's success is that the gun owners (and I suspect there are a LOT of them there since McCloskey got tossed after the AWB) would walk through fire for him. He's the best in the house on that issue.
36 posted on 07/24/2005 12:27:01 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Member - NRA, SAF, MGO, SAFR)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Actually it was the Redskins. He was already a bust long before he got to the Saints.


37 posted on 07/25/2005 9:07:50 AM PDT by Condor 63
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Heath Shuler was a quite skilled quarterback in college. During workouts for pro teams, I believe he always used his own football.

When he got to Washington, it seems his hands were a bit too small for the larger Pro football, and the ball would slip out of his hands.

I had always thought the "Shuler test" meant giving the guy a pro football to throw. I hadn't heard it had anything to do with mental ability.

So maybe my story is the apocryphal one.

Meanwhile, Taylor is the congressman who "tried" to vote no on CAFTA but says his vote failed due to an "glitch in the electronic voting".

In what has to be a rather hilarious irony, none of the democrats seems to believe that electronic voting could possible go wrong.


38 posted on 07/30/2005 9:33:57 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Clintonfatigued

Isn't that the Charles Taylor from Liberia though? I keep getting e-mails from his wife, saying that she's got $10 million or more in a Nigerian bank account and if only I'd give her my account number, she could transfer it there and I could keep 25% of it....


39 posted on 08/09/2005 7:02:12 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Dan from Michigan; Kuksool; jwalsh07; Common Tator; Coop; JohnnyZ; William Creel
Charlie Cook's latest email states that some GOP House incumbents in Ohio are in a near panic mode. Here is one juicy quote:

"And while there are tentative signs that a playing field tilted against Republicans may be developing nationwide, the evidence and logic behind a much more significant threat for Republicans in Ohio is very strong. Pryce was quoted Monday in the Columbus Dispatch, speaking to the paper's editorial board saying, 'The political situation for Republicans both in Washington and especially in Ohio is just dreadful,' going on to say that, 'in my short political life, I've never seen it so dire.' "

Bush carried the Pryce district by about 1%. Columbus has trended quite decisively and rapidly to the Dems.

40 posted on 08/09/2005 7:37:32 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
We're all gonna die.





Some day.
41 posted on 08/09/2005 7:40:36 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country." -- Mitt Romney)
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To: William Creel

That would make this board considerably more boring.


43 posted on 08/09/2005 8:36:24 PM PDT by Torie
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
He was a Ryan Leaf before anyone knew who Ryan Leaf was.

LOLOL - He was also a Tony Mandarich before Tony Mandarich.

45 posted on 08/09/2005 8:44:25 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Torie

Well, if Pryce is anywhere near as old as I am she's either crazy or nuts. The republicans were out in the cold so long we grew fur.


46 posted on 08/09/2005 9:28:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Torie; Dan from Michigan; Kuksool; jwalsh07; Common Tator; JohnnyZ; William Creel
Charlie Cook's latest email states that some GOP House incumbents in Ohio are in a near panic mode.

I can understand their concern in Ohio, with those disasters as Gov and Senators. But what is his E-mail based on? I would imagine some over-emphasis (IMHO) on this most recent special election.

I don't buy the nationwide tilt against the GOP. Too early to say one way or the other for '06, and GOP fundraising has not shown any signs of weakness.

47 posted on 08/10/2005 4:16:23 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Clintonfatigued
www.heathshuler.com
48 posted on 08/10/2005 4:21:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

His website doesn't say beans about where he stands on anything.


49 posted on 08/10/2005 4:24:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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