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(George) Allen introduces weapons bill
Richmond Times Dispatch ^ | June 4, 2006 | Peter Hardin

Posted on 06/04/2006 4:41:45 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands

WASHINGTON - People with permits from one state to carry a concealed firearm would generally be able to exercise that right elsewhere under a bill introduced quietly by Sen. George Allen.

"The bill would simply require states to recognize each other's concealed-carry permits and licenses, just as they recognize drivers' licenses," Allen, R-Va., said in a statement in the Congressional Record when he introduced the bill May 26.

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TOPICS: Virginia; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls; State and Local; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 109th; allen; bang; banglist; ccw; concealedcarry; georgeallen; senate; virginia

1 posted on 06/04/2006 4:41:47 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands

How many states don't have reciprocity agreements in regards to the CCW?


2 posted on 06/04/2006 4:42:35 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...
Support George Allen
3 posted on 06/04/2006 4:43:45 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands
"He also questioned how Virginia State Police would verify the validity of an individual's permit issued by another state."

How do they check driver licenses?
4 posted on 06/04/2006 4:45:42 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Corin Stormhands
Also in Virginia related newz...

M. Warner blasts Bush at N.H. event

A campaign-style video extolling the accomplishments of his gubernatorial administration preceded Warner's talk.

Probably saved money on video editing. After all how long does it take to say "Biggest tax increase in Virginia history?"

5 posted on 06/04/2006 4:47:13 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Good – Article IV Sec. 1 might actually be part of our Constitution again.


6 posted on 06/04/2006 5:53:46 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: coconutt2000
I haven't really added up the various agreements, but there seem to be different groups of agreements.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
or www.packing.org (same admin)

Some areas have education requirements that may be longer or shorter time periods than other states. It seems recognition of another state's license occurs when the educational requirements of the "recognizing" state's own requirements are met or exceeded by the external licensing state.

I have seen educational requirements from 16 down to zero. That seems to be the determinant.
7 posted on 06/04/2006 7:45:04 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: lrb111

Thanks. :-)


8 posted on 06/04/2006 7:52:49 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000

to the correct link
http://www.packing.org/license_tool/


9 posted on 06/04/2006 7:58:11 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: lrb111

Awesome link. Thanks!


10 posted on 06/04/2006 8:00:23 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000

Well, now I am doubting my conjecture about why there is reciprocity. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with educational requirements.

Vermont is wide open, no classes, anyone from any state that owns a gun can carry there. So, they allow the largest group of other states.
When clicking on Vermont here http://www.handgunlaw.us/, it appears that Vermont enjoys the largest area of reciprocity, also.


11 posted on 06/04/2006 9:26:00 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: lrb111

The rules, from what I saw, were arbitrary based on the legislative will of each state.

So there is probably no rational or reasonable conformity on standards on which to base a formula or rule for determining reciprocity.


12 posted on 06/04/2006 9:28:28 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000
That is quite possible.

I thnk i got confused. When i click on Vermont at http://www.packing.org/license_tool/ it shows Alaska as the only other state that honors Vermont. while Alaska and Vermont honor nearly everyone else. Alaska and Vermont are the least restricted.
13 posted on 06/04/2006 9:32:35 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I wonder where the "Allen is a gungrabbing rino" crowd is.


14 posted on 06/04/2006 10:51:03 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Corin Stormhands

Help Re-elect Senator Allen 2006

15 posted on 06/04/2006 1:54:48 PM PDT by Ligeia (Help unseat Jim Moran: http://www.tomodonoghue.com/about.html)
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To: lrb111

Some areas have education requirements that may be longer or shorter time periods than other states.



Different states have different testing and licensine requirements. Some states give licenses without any driving test. Some allow you to take in non-Ensligh languages.

This would kick ass on states that reserve permits for the elite (NY, CA, etc.)


16 posted on 06/04/2006 5:00:57 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba
This would kick ass on states that reserve permits for the elite (NY, CA, etc.)

NY State varies by local government's attitude towards granting the privilege. NYC had celebrity concealed carry privileges renewed until the city councilman was shot and killed at city hall. After that, Bloomberg told Ray Kelly, the Commissioner of the NYPD, to stop renewal for celebrities, e.g. Robert De Niro, Bill Buckley, etc. Now in NYC, someone requesting CCW privileges must demonstrate need to the NYPD(NYC).

Firearms Laws For New York City As of February, 2006

17 posted on 06/05/2006 8:42:50 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Joe Brower

This could be George Allen's foot in the door for the 2008 primaries, IMHO.


18 posted on 06/05/2006 8:45:50 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: lrb111
Well, now I am doubting my conjecture about why there is reciprocity.

Like any political decision, it's complicated. Usually it's based loosely on proximity and visitation, with some consideration for the perceived "rigor" of qualification standards and equivalency. Often agreements are generated based on public comment/requests.

Vermont and Alaska are exceptional because they do not require an actual permit. CCW is simply allowed, unless specifically prohibited.

19 posted on 06/05/2006 8:55:21 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: neverdem
This could be George Allen's foot in the door for the 2008 primaries

Sounds good to me.

20 posted on 06/11/2006 8:27:12 AM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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