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Yes, That Would Be Fred Thompson-FactCheck.org: GOP YouTube Debate Flubs
Daily Pundit ^ | November 29, 2007 | Bill Quick

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:11:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Falsehoods, exaggerations and stumbles Summary

The CNN/YouTube debate among Republicans lacked any talking snowmen, but we did note a few false and misleading statements by the candidates.

* Romney claimed New York called itself a “sanctuary city” for illegal aliens. It didn’t.

* Giuliani denied New York actually was a “sanctuary city.” But the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service has classified it as such, based on immigrant-friendly policies Giuliani still defends.

* Huckabee claimed he would “abolish the IRS.” He failed to mention that he’d replace it with another big tax bureaucracy.

* Huckabee said he had proposed to make children of illegal aliens eligible for Arkansas scholarships if they “had been in our schools their entire school life.” Actually, the proposal required only three years in Arkansas schools.

* Giuliani was correct on two points: While he was mayor, New York snowfall went down and the Yankees won four World Series titles. He was joking, but his gag should remind citizens that it’s a mistake in logic to give mayors, or governors or presidents, all credit or blame for what happens just because they’re in office at the time.

* Romney, claiming to be a “true suffering” fan of the Red Sox, said the team waited 87 years to win a World Series. They actually waited 86.

Notice whose name - of the major candidates - is absent from this list.

Yes, that would be “Straight-Talking Fred” Thompson.

No, Mad Mac McCain is not a major candidate.


TOPICS: Arkansas; Florida; Massachusetts; New York; Tennessee; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; election; electionpresident; elections; fred; fredthompson; gop; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; mittromney; republicans; rudygiuliani; sanctuarycities; thompson

1 posted on 11/29/2007 8:11:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Truth...who wants truth!?


2 posted on 11/29/2007 8:14:23 PM PST by Rick_Michael (The Anti-Federalists failed....so will the Anti-Frederalists)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Notice whose name - of the major candidates - is absent from this list.

Yes, that would be “Straight-Talking Fred” Thompson. “

No surprise here.


3 posted on 11/29/2007 8:24:14 PM PST by daylilly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
* Romney, claiming to be a “true suffering” fan of the Red Sox, said the team waited 87 years to win a World Series. They actually waited 86.

It seems that depending upon how one counts, there could be different answers to the question. Did the team that won the second World Series have to wait "one year", or "two years" for the victory? Did the team that won the World Series following the one that was canceled by a strike have to wait "one year" or "two years" longer than the team that won the previous?

4 posted on 11/29/2007 8:33:27 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: jellybean; Politicalmom; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; Darnright; babygene; ...
Ping!! (Note this is the SECOND debate in which FRed was deemed to have all his facts straight. Pretty good for a "doddering old man".)

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5 posted on 11/29/2007 8:37:06 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
* Huckabee said he had proposed to make children of illegal aliens eligible for Arkansas scholarships if they “had been in our schools their entire school life.” Actually, the proposal required only three years in Arkansas schools.

Yikes....didn't know that one. Double we'll see it brought up by the pundits. A little more serious then the BoSox mistake.
6 posted on 11/29/2007 8:43:24 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

Double=doubt....dang...


7 posted on 11/29/2007 8:44:46 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

Huckabee also signed the law in Arkansas allowing illegal aliens to pay in-state tuition for colleges.


8 posted on 11/29/2007 10:05:29 PM PST by McCoMo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting find, especially regarding Huckabee’s comments.


9 posted on 11/30/2007 4:05:54 AM PST by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred is in this for the right reasons. Love of country, love of family, concern for the future.

Giuliani, Romney and Huckabee are in it because of personal ambition.

10 posted on 11/30/2007 5:32:12 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the best shots fired during the debate came from Fred, and so far as I can tell has gone unreported.

During the trash talk between Mutt and Rooty about Mutt hiring a comany that had hired illegals, Fred broke in and suggested the Rooty back off, and pointed out that anyone who hires people should be careful to check their backgrounds. Seemed to me like a shot across the bow raising the Bernie Kerik issue ... I’m surprised no one picked up on it.


11 posted on 11/30/2007 5:51:20 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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To: TheRightGuy

That is a good line, and I am surprised that I saw it here first. Fred is consistant, and from what I have seen does not change his position on everything based on who he is sitting in front of at the time. He has his own style, and hopefully he confounds the pundits, and wins the nomination.

Go Fred!


12 posted on 11/30/2007 6:37:37 AM PST by Horusra
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To: TheRightGuy

My husband looked at me when Fred said that and asked what he meant, I said “Bernie Kerik”!


13 posted on 11/30/2007 8:38:57 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Limbaugh was pretty impressed with Thompson. He doesn’t do primary endorsements, so thats as close as you can get with Rush.


14 posted on 11/30/2007 11:05:44 AM PST by DesScorp
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“One of the best shots fired during the debate came from Fred”

I saw that and snickered. If you also notice none of the others seem to want to come after Fred because they really cannot. He shuts them down with cold hard facts.


15 posted on 12/01/2007 3:18:24 PM PST by donnab (saving liberal brains...one moron at a time.)
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