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The Real Conservative…(Ain't Mike Huckabee)
The Van Der Galiën Gazette ^ | December 1, 2007 | Michael van der Galiën

Posted on 12/01/2007 9:07:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Rick Moran has a post up exploring Mike Huckabee’s record as Governor of Arkansas in which he concludes that although Huckabee is a social conservative he most certainly isn’t a ‘real’ conservative.

“While Huckabee claims to have cut taxes 90 times totaling $378 million, the state’s Department of Finance and Administration says he also raised taxes 21 times that brought in a whopping $883 million,” Rick writes. “Under his ‘conservative’ governance, the ‘average Arkansan’s tax burden’ went “from $1,969 in the fiscal year that ended June 30, 1997, to $2,902 in the fiscal year that ended June 30, 2005, including local taxes.”

He warns American conservatives that Huckabee sounds an awful lot like George W. Bush did back in the day: “Get past the charm, the unctuousness, and the corn pone manner and what you have in Huckabee is a big government conservative who looks suspiciously like George Bush did in 1999.” And, finally, a word of caution: “I’m sure that if the GOP goes ahead and annoints Huckabee, the conservative movement in America will be set back as our once proud heritage of fiscal responsibility and support for smaller government will be trashed by another wolf in conservative raiment.”

If I were American this would be one of the major problems I’d have with Huckabee. Frankly, he’s not fiscally conservative enough for me. It should be clear to all of you by now, that I often don’t care much about ’social’ issues (they don’t get me riled up). To me, fiscal issues and foreign policy issues are most important. I focus on small government.

Having said that, Rick is wrong to say that Huckabee isn’t a conservative. He is. He’s just not a traditional conservative. Neither is he a libertarian conservative. He’s a social conservative. A Christian conservative, you could say. This group cares more about social issues than about spending issues. What’s more, although they agree with most other conservatives on social issues, they often tend to believe that the government should invest quite some in education, social programs, health care even, and they - of course - believe that the government should play an active role in shaping the economy.

There are different kinds of conservatives, and Rick would be wise to remember that.

What’s important in this debate is what kind of conservative you are. If you’re a social conservative, a Christian conservative who cares about spending in a responsible matter, albeit not in a (fiscally) conservative manner, Huckabee’s your man. If you believe that making government smaller isn’t as important as helping people while you don’t favor the big Democratic programs, Huckabee’s your man.

If, on the other hand, you believe that government is too big as it is right now, you should probably consider voting for someone else. If you oppose, for instance, No Child Left Behind you probably shouldn’t vote for Huckabee.

Who then, who can fiscal conservatives (such as myself) turn to? Rick obviously favors Fred Thompson. As I’ve said in the past, it seems to me that Thompson could be a good candidate, but he has an energy problem. If not in reality, then at least in perception. Of course there’s also John McCain, but McCain has an immigration problem, to put it mildly, and many conservative believe that his attempt to push through lobby reforms - which succeeded - was unconservative. Rudy Giuliani? Not social conservative enough and he’s surrounding himself with neoconservative advisers. Mitt Romney? As I see it, probably the best choice, although doubts remain about him changing his positions / views.

In short: traditional conservative don’t have a ‘perfect’ candidate. We can comment on all Republican candidates and call them unconservative in one way or another. The question is what issues matter most to you?


TOPICS: Arizona; Arkansas; Massachusetts; New York; Tennessee; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservatives; election; electionpresident; elections; entitlements; fredthompson; gop; huckabee; immigration; johnmccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; republicans; rudygiuliani; shields; taxes; welfare
Fred is just laid-back, as many Southerners are, but the New York-based media sees that as lazy or slow or lacking energy. Fred came from behind to win in his first election, and I have a feeling many will be surprised this time, as well. Huckabee seems to think that you & I owe it to the poor and "undocumented" to assist them in myriad ways. Charity cannot come at the point of a bayonet, because then it isn't really charity.
1 posted on 12/01/2007 9:07:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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2 posted on 12/01/2007 9:18:52 PM PST by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred is just the President of the United States just looking for a place to happen.


3 posted on 12/01/2007 9:21:22 PM PST by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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I hope you’re right about Fred. I also hope Fred is not sympathetic to the North American Union and other anti-nationalist ideas.
4 posted on 12/01/2007 9:22:20 PM PST by Jim 0216
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fred is just laid-back, as many Southerners are, but the New York-based media sees that as lazy or slow or lacking energy.

I believe you are way too kind to the media.

I really do not believe that their motives are pure or even sincere in this matter.

I do believe that many to most of them really are not conservative and Rudy or Mitt or even the Huckster are more in line with their position on the issues.
5 posted on 12/01/2007 10:29:47 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Jim 0216
I also hope Fred is not sympathetic to the North American Union and other anti-nationalist ideas.

Given his strong Illegal Immigration plan, I sincerely doubt he is sympathetic to the North American Union thing.


6 posted on 12/01/2007 10:31:00 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the REAL Mike Huckabee
7 posted on 12/02/2007 1:52:17 AM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: doc1019

My dream ticket is Thompson/Hunter.


8 posted on 12/02/2007 4:34:42 AM PST by proudofthesouth (Liberalism IS a mental illness.)
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Fred in ‘08!


9 posted on 12/02/2007 4:36:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: proudofthesouth

Hunter/Coulter for me.


10 posted on 12/02/2007 9:36:21 AM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: SoConPubbie

He won’t give a comment when asked about the NAU and I know that he voted for an expansion of NAFTA.


11 posted on 12/03/2007 11:05:29 AM PST by thelastinkling (DH08 or BUST)
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To: All

The Real Conservative…(Ain’t Mike Huckabee) BTTT!


12 posted on 12/04/2007 6:25:26 PM PST by Joya (May God rest your soul in peace, Sean Taylor. Heartfelt condolences to your loved ones.)
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