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McCain, Unfit For Command
PHX News ^ | February 9, 2008 | Bob Haran

Posted on 02/09/2008 1:08:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I have the utmost respect for Senator John McCain's service to our country as a career officer in the United States Navy, however, because of positions he has taken as a United States Senator, I can never vote for or support him for any public office, especially for the office of President of the United States.

While acknowledging and appreciating Senator McCain's support for the sanctity of human life, his positions in regard to illegal immigration and trade make it impossible for me to support his candidacy for President of the United States, even if he does receive the nomination of my party.

Senator McCain has consistently ignored the demands of the people to remedy the out of control illegal immigration situation now plaguing America. These pleas for enforcement of our immigration laws have come from not only the grassroots of the Republican party, but also from citizens of every political strip from all across America.

Instead of working to help solve the problem of illegal immigration, McCain has supported a guest worker program to allow more foreign workers into the American work force which will help to suppress American wages.

He has supported allowing illegal aliens to participate in our Social Security system.

When the people of Arizona introduced a citizen's initiative, Proposition 200, to restrict persons illegally in our country from receiving non-emergency state government benefits and to provide proof of citizenship to register to vote, John McCain opposed us.

He has introduced legislation in the Congress of the United States to allow persons who are residing illegally in our country and who have violated the sovereignty of the United States, to be placed on a path to obtaining the most valuable possession of every American, citizenship, and he insists that this reward for violating American law and sovereignty, is not an amnesty.

When the Arizona legislature passed a law to discourage the hiring of undocumented workers by providing employer sanctions, John McCain opposed it.

It is my sincere belief that Senator McCain's motives for his positions on immigration have not been and could not possible be, for what is in the best interest of the American people but only what is in the best interest of satisfying his own political ambition. A person that puts his own ambition before the interest of the people has no business holding any public office.

The position of John McCain and too many other Members of Congress on trade has also been detrimental to the welfare of the American people.

He has voted for trade with Communist Vietnam and permanent normal trade with Communist China.

He is a supporter of the North American Free Trade Agreement and voted for the Central American Free Trade Agreement.

These trade agreements put American labor at an unfair, uncompetitive, disadvantage, with the cheap labor costs of third world nations, resulting in the exporting of American manufacturing industry and the loss of American jobs and an out of control trade deficit which has resulted in the redistribution of American wealth to foreign nations. Free trade has proven to be bad economically for the American people and not fair trade. Yet hardly a word is spoken of this hemorrhaging of American wealth by John McCain or any of the other major candidates for president. These trade agreements, like illegal immigration, benefit the few at the cost to the many and are not in the best interest of the American people and those that support such agreements do not deserve the support of the American people for public office.

Now we are being urged by many in the Republican party to put aside our great differences with John McCain and support him because he is the candidate most likely to win the GOP presidential nomination and he is better then any candidate the Democrat party may nominate. May I remind these loyal Republicans that the lesser of two evils is still evil and the fact that John McCain may obtain the Republican nomination does not change the fact that to many Republicans who place loyalty to country before party, John McCain is still unacceptable for the office of President of the United States.

John McCain is now attempting to mend fences with conservative Republicans, it is far to late to mend fences with those of us who know him. There is nothing John McCain can do or say to gain our support. We know McCain, like many other professional politicians, will say or do anything to get elected. We do not trust John McCain.

The patriotism that John McCain must have had as a Naval officer has long ago been overtaken by his blind ambition for the White House, this therefore makes him unfit to hold the office of President of the United States.


TOPICS: Arizona; Issues; Parties; State and Local; U.S. Senate
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1 posted on 02/09/2008 1:08:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is too late for McCain to make things right with me. I’ll vote for conservatives down the ballot - but I will not vote for McCain. I’ll vote for another republican on the ballot, or a third party candidate. McCain must be denied the opportunity to do further damage.


2 posted on 02/09/2008 1:12:12 PM PST by alicewonders (Conservative without a country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While I, like you, would rather see the pendullum swinging right, not left, perhaps even for McCain the times inwhich we live may help sway him in that direction:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967718/posts

And as Rep. Mike Spence clearly shows, even if the GOP goes on ‘conservative’ hold for 4 years, the GOP benchwarmers are warming up for a Reagan Rebound....keep an open mind for a few months, who knows, Huckabee might even win Kansas!


3 posted on 02/09/2008 1:14:00 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; pissant; Politicalmom; jellybean; Josh Painter; ejonesie22; ...

Ping!


4 posted on 02/09/2008 1:26:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My sentiments exactly.

Only, I don’t respect his position on life because it’s lukewarm as he supports using our money for embryonic stem cell research. Furthermore, whats the use of the pro-life movement if McCain is out there punishing pro-life groups who would like to speak out


5 posted on 02/09/2008 1:27:25 PM PST by Def Conservative (If we accept McCain now, just think of how liberal the next GOP nominee wil be..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can list 20 things off the top of myhead the utterly and completely disqualify this idiot from office. Yet here we are.


6 posted on 02/09/2008 1:45:14 PM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain is a crazy choice by anybody’s standards.


7 posted on 02/09/2008 1:45:46 PM PST by Bogie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every time we elect a “RINO”, the bar of Conservatism is moved even farther to the left of the political spectrum.

If our Country is to be torn apart even further, let that person who leads us, not have an “R” in front of his name.

We need to re double our efforts at regaining control of the House and the Senate to thwart to efforts of the libs and RINOS. They think they have us on the run, let’s turn it around on them.

We need to keep the fire at the feet of our representatives as we did during the “shamnesty” debacle.


8 posted on 02/09/2008 1:49:10 PM PST by papasmurf (This space left intentionally blank)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Your fellow citizens are going to decide who is the least unfit. You can participate or stay home and whine. The decision will be made without you.


9 posted on 02/09/2008 2:40:25 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m not committed to supporting McCain if he’s the nominee, but I’m leaning towards it. His choice for running mate will be very important.

As for illegal aliens, he’s no worse than the current President.


10 posted on 02/09/2008 2:50:29 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: pissant

Just 20?

Pissant, you’re slipping ;-)


11 posted on 02/09/2008 2:56:29 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
i want to redo this whole primary with unimpeachable paper ballots.
12 posted on 02/09/2008 3:01:14 PM PST by machenation ("it can't happen here" Frank Zappa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen....

Even at the risk of sending the Clintons or Obama to the White House — McCain will NOT receive my vote.


13 posted on 02/09/2008 3:01:34 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: All

Senator McCain hasn’t secured the nomination:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967481/posts


14 posted on 02/09/2008 3:39:48 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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Congressman Duncan Hunter's endorsement of Governor Huckabee
is helping to bring defense and border conservatives on board:

"I got to know Governor Huckabee well on the campaign trail," said Hunter...
"Mike Huckabee is a man of outstanding character and integrity."



Huckabee - Hunter '08

15 posted on 02/09/2008 3:40:06 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Old, sick, mean and crazy.


16 posted on 02/09/2008 3:43:18 PM PST by Mamzelle (bull maverick party)
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To: alicewonders

“He is a supporter of the North American Free Trade Agreement and voted for the Central American Free Trade Agreement”
____________________________________________________

That is a good thing. Free trade is a hallmark conservative position. Countries with the best free trade policies are the wealthiest of all countries, and those with the poorest free trade policies (e.g. North Korea) are the poorest. Only those who feel we cannot compete want laws to prevent us from competing.

The choice to lead this nation is not between some “ideal” candidate who is not in the race and Hillary/Obama, but between Hillary/Obama and McCain.

As Mike Pense said “Conservatives don’t have to agree on everything. But we do need to agree on one thing: There cannot be a President Obama or another President Clinton in the White House.”


17 posted on 02/09/2008 3:50:12 PM PST by AlternateEgo (Fred Thompson for the Supreme Court)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will not vote for amnesty for illegals.

On the litmus test issues of our time, only partially excluding Iraq, McCain is a liberal.

— He excoriated Samuel Alito as too “conservative.”

— He promoted amnesty for 20 million illegal immigrants.

— He abridged citizens’ free speech (in favor of the media) with McCain-Feingold.

— He hysterically opposes waterboarding terrorists and wants to shut down Guantanamo.

— He denounced the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

— He opposes ANWR and supports the global warming cult, even posturing with fellow mountebank Arnold Schwarzenegger in front of solar panels.

The only site that would have been more appropriate for Schwarzenegger in endorsing McCain would have been in front of an abortion clinic.


18 posted on 02/09/2008 3:53:00 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you do not vote for McCain in November, you are voting for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

I may well vote for Romney if he is still on Pennsylvania's ballot in April just to show support for a more conservative platform, but I will work for McCain's election if he is our nominee. Clinton and/or Obama must be stopped, or we might not have a country four years from now.
19 posted on 02/09/2008 4:13:44 PM PST by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Squantos

What you say may be correct, but McCain’s Americans for Democratic Action rating ranged from 10 to 35% from 2004 to 2006. Clinton’s and Obama’s ranged from 95 to 100 percent.


20 posted on 02/09/2008 4:15:10 PM PST by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments? No, but I have a question... Why is McCain always referred to as a 'War Hero?' Seriously, he donned his country's uniform and served. So have millions of other Americans, and even non-Americans. Does that make him a hero?

He graduated almost last in his Naval Academy class. Does that make him a hero?

He lost in accidents at least 3 airplanes that I know about. Most aviators go a whole career without losing any. Does losing planes (not talking about the one that was shot out from under him) make one a hero?

He was shot down by enemy fire. Does that make him a hero, or merely unlucky? Ask about all the other airmen shot down from the skies... Were they heroes one and all? Did they all get medals? Are they all going around proclaiming they were heroes? This needs to be asked.

He was a POW. Is this heroic, or again merely unfortunate for him. Ask the thousands of POW's from our wars and police actions, are they heroes for being captured or merely unfortunate? This needs to be asked.

I personally know heroes. They were not decorated nor called heroes by any but the people around them that are alive today because of their heroic actions. John McCain had one chance to be a hero, but he ran and hid in the sick bay instead of helping fight the fires or aiding his injured brothers in arms. John McCain is not a hero.

John McCain is a short, nasty man who dosn't wash his hands after a visit to the men's room and then shakes everyone's hand. Would I like to be like John McCain? No. Would I like my son to grow up to be like John McCain? No. They why is he a hero, having done nothing but be unfortunate and or careless with government property, when others who have done truly heroic deeds while wearing their country's uniform are not called hero's, but only veterans? I want to know.

21 posted on 02/09/2008 5:02:26 PM PST by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*)
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To: SandwicheGuy
Why is he called a 'hero'?

There is probably some long drawn out psycho-babble reasoning available to explain this. But I'd venture a guess that it is necessary for his advocates to do this to assuage their own beliefs. People want to believe that those they support are somehow more nobler, wiser or better equipped than the opponents. It helps calm their fears and feeds their own egos that they are making the right choice.
This 'hero' word is much over-used. And, IMO, is completely degraded by using it to refer to any politician. Said politico may have performed some heroic deed in another situation, but being a politician probably cancels out any 'hero karma' he/she may have gained.

Just my opinion.
22 posted on 02/09/2008 7:14:02 PM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Tainan
There is probably some long drawn out psycho-babble reasoning available to explain this. But I'd venture a guess that it is necessary for his advocates to do this to assuage their own beliefs.

As a former liberal, I think it's an aspect of the liberal mind fog which dictates that the more noble someone claims to be, the more of an insult it would be to question their claims.

I don't know what conditions John McCain faced in the Hanoi Hilton. My personal suspicion would be that there was some personal advantage to him there versus returning stateside, but I'm sure any evidence that could confirm or refute such suspicions has been destroyed many years ago.

There may also be a tie in with the liberal mantra that everyone is either a victim or an oppressor. Since people don't want to think of themselves as "oppressors", that leaves only one alternative. The "hero" card offers a third alternative, though there's no particular logic about when it can actually be played.

23 posted on 02/09/2008 7:55:35 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: All

BTTT!


24 posted on 02/09/2008 8:07:10 PM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Winged Hussar
Herd thinking and herd actions lead the whole herd to the slaughter.

25 posted on 02/09/2008 8:23:45 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: William Terrell

I didn’t say I was following the herd by voting for McCain in the primary. If Romney is still on our ballot, I will probably vote for him—or Huckabee. However, McCain looks like the likely nominee.

If I have to eat a sandwich of rotten meat, I would rather take a single slice (RINO) than the double-decker or club (Obama or Clinton). Did you know that Clinton will enact legislation to force us to buy expensive health insurance policies (thus enriching insurance companies) and garnish our wages if we refuse?


26 posted on 02/09/2008 9:05:13 PM PST by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Comments?

If things continue on this same course:

[Hand salute] "Capt. Queeg reporting for duty."

5.56mm

27 posted on 02/09/2008 9:09:08 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Winged Hussar
Voting for whatever candidate the party serves up is herd thinking.

What Hillary or Obama will do, McCain will do. I think it's interesting, if not prophetic, that the name "McCain" means the son of Cain.

28 posted on 02/10/2008 5:41:03 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Tainan

McCaint is just like John Glenn. Any heroism they achieved has been negated by their service as politicians. I’m referring to John Glen becoming a shill for Bill Clinton so he could have a final space ride.


29 posted on 02/10/2008 9:02:56 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: Squantos

I just heard McCaint has proposed a bill to fund improvement of health care__for MEXICO.


30 posted on 02/10/2008 9:07:31 AM PST by hdstmf
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To: AlternateEgo
Free trade is a hallmark conservative position.

The anti-free trade position is a hallmark of the unions and is the reason that I abandoned Duncan Hunter as a candidate. The Hunter supporters, along with the Huckabee supporters are largely responsible for handing the nomination to McCain, not because of the large number of voters, but because of their use of the politics of mass destruction.

31 posted on 02/10/2008 9:15:20 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: hdstmf

Did he now ?

Doom on that POS..........

Stay Safe , Hope yer well !


32 posted on 02/10/2008 9:15:40 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bingo! Come November, I plan to write in Hunter, Tancredo, Thompson, or Lou Dobbs, or vote for the Constitution Party (if it is on the ballot in my state). McCain is just the GOP’s Hillary in temperament and “it’s now my turn” stance.
33 posted on 02/11/2008 5:50:13 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (A voter wavering between wanting radical change and burning the damn place down)
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