Posted on 03/07/2008 5:14:24 PM PST by UniversalHealthFail
Follow the logic:
1.) Government routes funds -> subsidy to cover some of the bill -> Insurance industry gets a dramatic influx of income -> most influential lobbyists get the exclusive subsidy contracts -> unfair competition and antitrust complaints -> legal framework gets delayed
2.) Unions lose bargaining power as they no longer have the required negotiation of health insurance for workers -> kicking unions in the mouth even more in the face of an already unregulated globalized workforce -> unemployment
3.) No requirement to insure workers -> less workers for same productivity due to weakening Unions -> corporations get to pocket more to expand presence in the global market -> less regulatory oversight for imports/exports -> environmental/health issues which may or may not outpace the coverage provided by the insurance
Zero-sum gain :D
It's not a question if these things come to pass. It's a question of to what degree will these things get expressed? I believe these events will be expressed in ways that are unpredictable, at best.
The good news is that Democrats are finally evolving and accepting the fact that their Marxist-inspired Unions are outdated in the face of a global market. Now, they are putting their vestigial tools on the sacrificial alter to the cheering mob who believes such a ritual grants them favor.
The bad news is that this means the revolution is moving overseas as they try their hand at spreading the American model of social justice to developing nations.
Once more, the bloodshed continues.
If anything, this sort of behavior -OBLITERATES- American Unions (which I am all for) which is why I would support it. But no one sees this bull coming and I prefer to keep it that way. So I will resist universal healthcare so the enraged mob of democrats focus all their energy on the resistance instead of the aftershock.
Universal Health Coverage is the best thing that can happen to corporations.
I like cheese.
And let’s go over to London to ask the Union representatives there how they’re coping with universal health care...
Wasn’t this the same argument for conservatives to supposedly swallow the largest curtailment of the freedom of speech ever? Accept McCain-Feingold, it’ll make the unions silent...
And the worst thing that can happen to employees.
ZOT! incoming...
Tell me the downside of union extinction?
No, it’s like this:
“free” govt care -> problem of the commons (massive overuse problem) -> tax increases -> capital flight abroad -> US economy collapses
And one decade later:
... U.S. citizens finally tire of socialism, stagnation, poverty -> we have our own “French Revolution” (another ‘Reagan’ is elected)
I have no problem with depleting unions of their members. The main problem I have with universal healthcare is that tends to absorb and emasculate governments that adopt it. The government becomes the deliverer of healthcare, period. National defense, law enforcement, infrastructure improvements, everything becomes secondary to healthcare, and everything gets starved to feed that beast.
Absolutely spot on assessment. You only have to look at Canada's idea of highways and the armed forces.
The government becomes the deliverer of healthcare, period.
except for all the new universal health care unions
In Poland the union brought down the socialist govt, in the US the socialist govt will take down the unions. Do you want unions if you are a socialist govt?
This post (<-click), while addressing a tax-related thread, explains in more detail why federal politicians are foolishly following in the footsteps of FDR's dirty federal spending politics, proposed health care being a good example.
In fact, consider that when Jefferson reflected on the Founder's division of federal and state government powers, he noted that the Founders had trusted the states, not the federal government with the care of the people.
"Our citizens have wisely formed themselves into one nation as to others and several States as among themselves. To the united nation belong our external and mutual relations; to each State, severally, the care of our persons, (emphasis mine) our property, our reputation and religious freedom." --Thomas Jefferson: To Rhode Island Assembly, 1801. ME 10:262 http://tinyurl.com/onx4jNote that the people can always exercise their Article V powers to amend the Constitution to properly authorize the federal government to manage health care. But until such a time, health care remains a state power issue.
The bottom line is that the people need to wise up to the very serious problem that the federal government is operating outside the restraints imposed on it by the Constitution, particularly where constitutionally unauthorized federal spending is concerned. The people need to quit sitting on their hands and petition lawmakers, judges and justices who aren't upholding their oaths to defend the Constitution, demanding that they resign from their jobs.
You haven’t thought it all through. ALL the healtcare workers will eventually be government employees.
All the plans for universal health coverage specifically exempt employers who provide health coverage. Even Clinton care back in the ‘90s exempted employers with more than 4000 employees who provided health care. This exemption was placed in the bill at the request of the unions so they wouldn’t have to be a part of the impending disaster.
Back to the drawing boards.
And yet even with the emasculation of everything else the beast is insatiable so the “Deliverer” has to begin rationing and restricting. The Government becomes god and We The People end up with a gutted health care system. But hey, it will be bad for everyone (except for the elites) and that is what matters most to Socialists: “fairness”.
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