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Obama Writes Off Florida and Ohio: Concedes Must Win Some Republican States
The Patriot Room ^ | June 16, 2008 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 06/16/2008 11:25:53 AM PDT by Bill Dupray

So much for the 50 State Strategy, announced just last week. The Obama campaign admits neither FL and OH "was hospitable to Obama this year." Even three states Kerry won (PA, MI, NH) "look competitive" for McCain. Obama will try to pick off VA, NM, and others to make up the difference. Is Obama the underdog in this Year of the Democrat?

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TOPICS: Florida; New Mexico; Ohio; Virginia; Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; battlegrounds; democratparty; democrats; electionpresident; elections; johnmccain; obama; obamatruthfile; states
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1 posted on 06/16/2008 11:34:03 AM PDT by Bill Dupray
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To: Bill Dupray

He has no shot in Va. Too much military and too many defense contractors. McCain even has higher support in Northern Va than most Republicans. If Obama spends time any money there it’s all for naught, which is fine by me.


2 posted on 06/16/2008 11:35:59 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Bill Dupray

Some will riot IMO if Obama wins or loses.


3 posted on 06/16/2008 11:36:38 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (I would rather be water-boarded than vote for John McCain......)
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To: Bill Dupray
I hope...nad pray, through hard work and education of others, that he ends up conceding a whole lot more.

By all rights, given his assocaitions and positions, he should.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

4 posted on 06/16/2008 11:36:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Reagan79

I think there are at least twenty states that Obama can write off today...and by August...another eight. Michigan should have been pro-Obama....but they can’t even win that state now. If McCain picks Bloomberg as VP...then Obama can count out NY automatically.


5 posted on 06/16/2008 11:44:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Bill Dupray

If Obama has already written off OH and FL...then this election isn’t going to be the Obama landslide the MSM thinks it will.

In fact, I predict the opposite. Obama’s going to spend a lot of money defending MI, PA, and WI and probably won’t win those either.

My mother-in-law seems to think McCain has a reasonable shot of winning Massachusetts as well.


6 posted on 06/16/2008 11:46:48 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: pepsionice

Bloomberg might cost the McCainiac the south IMO.


7 posted on 06/16/2008 11:48:38 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (I would rather be water-boarded than vote for John McCain......)
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To: pepsionice

Obama will be writing off Michigan and PA before it’s all said and done...


8 posted on 06/16/2008 11:48:43 AM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: pepsionice
If McCain picks Bloomberg as VP...then Obama can count out NY automatically.

Perish the thought! How about Rudy campaigns for McCain and he wins NJ.
9 posted on 06/16/2008 11:49:15 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Bill Dupray

Michelle is again embarrassed at Americans.


10 posted on 06/16/2008 11:49:30 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Bill Dupray

I’m not entirely sure I buy B. Hussein simply “writing off” FL and OH. Hell, the way things are shaping up, he’ll NEED both of them to win it.

He will, however, have to pick off a few states in the South the way every other post-JFK Dim that has won the Presidency in order to have a shot.


11 posted on 06/16/2008 11:50:00 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (DU: Standing athwart history yelling "$#@$# you mother$#@$#er!")
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To: Sybeck1

Bloomberg is a non starter.


12 posted on 06/16/2008 11:50:11 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Obamao v Mad Jon, win the battle and lose the war..choice of evils be..)
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To: Sybeck1
Some will riot IMO if Obama wins or loses.

Which are you? Are you going to riot if he loses? Or if he wins?

13 posted on 06/16/2008 11:50:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bill Dupray

Read the article and he’s saying Ohio wasn’t hospitable to Obama because Clinton took it. But losing to another Democrat is different from losing to a Republican. Long and short of it is that Obama can’t afford to write off Ohio. He may be able to cobble a win without the state but it will be a whole lot easier with Ohio than without it. I think he’ll fight hard for it.


14 posted on 06/16/2008 11:54:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Sgt_Schultze

When hubby loses,we’ll be accused of being racists.Tough!


15 posted on 06/16/2008 11:54:38 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: Non-Sequitur

If Obama is writing off key swing states, then the Dem convention may not be a coronation.


16 posted on 06/16/2008 11:56:17 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Bill Dupray

Monkeywrench time: Hillary is the VP! What shall happen then?


17 posted on 06/16/2008 11:58:47 AM PDT by mw19
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To: GOP_Raider

Take a look at the southern states in the post-JFK era that were won by Dim candidates that were part of their EC total:

1996—X42/Algore
Arkansas
Louisiana
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
(You could also throw in West Virginia if you felt inclined to do so, since they also won in that state)

1992—X42/Algore
Arkansas
Louisiana
Georgia
Tennessee
Kentucky
(also W. Virginia)

1976—Jimmuh/Mondale
Texas
Louisiana
Arkansas
Alabama
Mississippi
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
North Carolina
South Carolina
(also West Virginia)

1964-LBJ
Somehow this quasi-Texan took 44 states, but Goldwater, aside from winning Arizona won Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, and South Carolina. So if you’re from these states and you voted for Goldwater, give yourself a pat on the back.

Anyway, my question is: Can B. Hussein the Messiah pick off any of these states that previous Dims that have won the Presidency have? He may have to in order to win...


18 posted on 06/16/2008 12:05:10 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (DU: Standing athwart history yelling "$#@$# you mother$#@$#er!")
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To: Sybeck1

Dream on. MCcain is not that dumb to pick Boooooberg.


20 posted on 06/16/2008 12:06:26 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mw19

I have a whole menagerie of Dem kook friends who are mesmerized by B. Hussein and they have contemplated not voting for him if Hillary is the VP. So take it FWIW.


21 posted on 06/16/2008 12:06:45 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (DU: Standing athwart history yelling "$#@$# you mother$#@$#er!")
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To: doc30

Yep, how does Obama win the election without Ohio, Penn, Florida, and Michigan? He’s got to win at least 2 of those to win the election, based on how other states are lining up.

The map could change if he really can pick up Virginia and Colorado, or any others.

Some of the key swing states look to be Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, and New Hampshire.


22 posted on 06/16/2008 12:07:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: mw19

Hillary probably will be the VP candidate.


23 posted on 06/16/2008 12:09:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“But losing to another Democrat is different from losing to a Republican.”

Yeah - but he is running against McCain. I think a lot of gun-toting Bible-reading Union democrats will have no problem voting for McCain rather than a commie like Obama.


24 posted on 06/16/2008 12:10:01 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Reagan79

Who is looking to challenge Warner in the Senatorial campaign? Is George Allen going to challenge him? If not him, I don’t see any Republican beating him.

BTW: Love Ralph Stanley, love My Ole’ clinch mountain home by the Carter family... : )


25 posted on 06/16/2008 12:10:07 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: GOP_Raider

So far McCain seems to be cool with the idea that Hussein will get some southern states.If he picks Bloomberg then he probably prefers to not get southern states.


26 posted on 06/16/2008 12:10:15 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: RockinRight
I can tell you from experience poll watching in 2004 that if Pennsylvania isn't declared Jackass Blue by 8:30 p.m., the jackass candidate is in trouble. Our precinct still had people voting until 9:45 p.m. We could tell by the glum faces of the RAT operatives that things were not going their way, even though the networks declared Pennsylvania blue minutes after the polls closed.

We were told that our efforts in making Pennsylvania competitive tied down RAT resources that otherwise would have been deployed to Ohio, where the margin for Bush ended up being about the same as our margin for Kerry.

27 posted on 06/16/2008 12:10:55 PM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: pepsionice
"If McCain picks Bloomberg as VP...then Obama can count out NY automatically."

If McCain picks Bloomberg as VP, he can count me (and probably many other conservatives) out automatically. I will pull the lever for Bob Barr then...
28 posted on 06/16/2008 12:11:59 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Bill Dupray

Fauxbama has ZERO chance in PA... he can’t win OH or FLA... he is the completely unelectable canidate. The dems have put forth someone who cannot win a general popular election or the electoral college.

Just wait until he has to actually perform in front of live camera’s with no teleprompter and get forced to think on his feet.

This guy will be LUCKY if he gets 40% of the popular vote.


29 posted on 06/16/2008 12:12:59 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Vigilanteman

Fauxbama cannot win PA, pure and simple.

This stuffed shirt will lose many states that no Dem can afford to lose... he’s unelectable.


30 posted on 06/16/2008 12:14:36 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: GOP_Raider

I think that he thinks that Georgia is in play.He’s dreaming.


31 posted on 06/16/2008 12:16:36 PM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Gilmore is challenging him. Gilmore is not popular at all. It’s an easy win for Warner, but a lot of his votes won’t carry over to Obama.


32 posted on 06/16/2008 12:18:51 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: GOP_Raider

It’s not just the post-JFK Democrats who had to win Southern states to win the White House. No Democrat has ever won without taking at least four southern states.


33 posted on 06/16/2008 12:20:31 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: GOP_Raider

He thinks Georgia is in play.I cannot imagine it.


34 posted on 06/16/2008 12:20:42 PM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Red Steel

Please, PLEASE, do not overestimate John McCain’s intelligence in regard to choosing his running mate. I KNOW there is a lot riding on that choice, but when a bad choice COULD be made, you could almost depend on John to be at least reaching out for it.

Choosing a running mate is on the order of cutting diamonds, trying to achieve the one cut that reveals the most favorable facets, while trying to avoid the flaw that would reduce a gem to abrasive dust.


35 posted on 06/16/2008 12:21:59 PM PDT by alloysteel (Carbon dioxide is plant food, no more of a "pollutant" than water or oxygen.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

If McCain were to pick Lieberman then he would definitely lose my vote too.

I can’t see Obama picking Bloomberg or Hagel. This would not gain him much. Plus Dems would be screaming that the slot should go to a real Democrat.


36 posted on 06/16/2008 12:29:20 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Reagan79

Maybe Gilmore should opt out of the Senate race, in which he has no chance, and make himself available to be McCain’s running mate instead! He would make a good balance and it would probably keep VA in GOP hands.

Did Gilmore leave office unpopular? I thought it was a disaster when in the aftermath of 9/11/01 that VA would elect a Demo governor to succeed Gilmore. But I thought he had been a pretty solid conservative.


37 posted on 06/16/2008 12:31:59 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Vigilanteman

I agree. I live in California. I seriously doubt that McCain can win California, but I and many of my friends will be working very hard between now and November to make it not be a landslide, thus keeping the Dems from taking resources out of California to help in closer states. We did that in 2004, and I firmly believe it helped alot in the grand scheme of things.


38 posted on 06/16/2008 12:33:10 PM PDT by usflagwaver
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To: HamiltonJay
The Philthadelphia fraud machine may disagree.
39 posted on 06/16/2008 12:35:24 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Huh?)
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To: RedVirginia
I live in Northern VA, and I am surprised by how many of my Dem neighbors are not voting for Obama.

I'm seeing a lot of Obama stickers though...of course, that is because Obama supporters tend to be loud mouths.

My dinner at a restaurant in Alexandria was ruined last night by one such loud mouth who felt it her duty to explain to her table (and the entire restaurant) why she was voting for Obama. In a nutshell...the government is one big, bad conspiracy...so she's voting for Obama so the gov't can control more.

Quite the intellectual.

40 posted on 06/16/2008 12:39:34 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (When all you have is a kitty, every problem looks like a troll.)
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To: RockinRight
...then this election isn’t going to be the Obama landslide the MSM thinks it will.

Change that to "The MSM wants it to be"

41 posted on 06/16/2008 12:42:02 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Trust me, Philly fraud will not carry the state for Fauxbama.

He will lose PA, mark my words.


42 posted on 06/16/2008 12:47:14 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: RockinRight
“My mother-in-law seems to think McCain has a reasonable shot of winning Massachusetts as well.”

Let's get real people, this is delusional thinking. Obama will win MA in a landslide because he has the one and only qualification it takes to win here : a D after your name. No matter what Obama does or what comes out about him, he will win 60% of the vote here. MA is not even in play. NH maybe but this is Kennedy land folks.

I think Obama will lose nationwide in a land slide but nit in MA. If you don't live here like I do you have no idea how hideously liberal this place is.

43 posted on 06/16/2008 1:15:57 PM PDT by Maneesh
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To: Maneesh

My MIL LIVES in Mass. My wife used to.

Others are also not convinced that MA will be the walk for Obama that you and many others (understandably, don’t get me wrong) think it will be.

Mass. voters lean liberal, but for the most part (outside Boston and Cambridge) they are still patriots. Kerry and Gore were able to present themselves as patriots, but Obama cannot.

Also - there are more Independent voters in Massachusetts than Democrats IIRC - McCain simply appeals more to them.


44 posted on 06/16/2008 1:25:35 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: doc30
If Obama is writing off key swing states, then the Dem convention may not be a coronation.

There is no way he isn't going to be nominated. And I think it's too early to be writing off Ohio. Wishful thinking on the author's part.

45 posted on 06/16/2008 1:26:57 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 21twelve
I think a lot of gun-toting Bible-reading Union democrats will have no problem voting for McCain rather than a commie like Obama.

I think you're right. But how many? That's the question. And I think it's too early to be answering it. The picture should look a lot clearer come late September and October.

46 posted on 06/16/2008 1:28:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bill Dupray

A smell a Torricelli coming our way!


47 posted on 06/16/2008 1:31:53 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: Sybeck1
Some will riot IMO if Obama wins or loses.

Yep. They riot when their favorite team loses a basketball/football/baseball game too.

48 posted on 06/16/2008 1:39:42 PM PDT by Mogollon (q)
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To: TNCMAXQ

Gilmore is a sacrificial lamb. He was never that popular, way less popular than Allen.


49 posted on 06/16/2008 2:24:36 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Bill Dupray

I think Obama is even going to have to fight to win NJ.


50 posted on 06/16/2008 4:41:56 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, freerepublic.com baby)
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