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McCain's Move: 4 Different Debate Scenarios
Townhall ^ | September 25, 2008 | Matt Lewis

Posted on 09/25/2008 1:53:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It looks like Obama has firmly declared he will be at the debate, while McCain has allowed a little wiggle room by "requesting" the debate be postponed -- and "challenging" Obama to agree.

Regardless, this "staring contest" over whether or not to debate tomorrow night, could have real political ramifications. McCain's opening salvo was shrewd and bold, but Obama's comeback was good, too ("Part of the president's job is to deal with more than one thing at once.")

Following are some thoughts on how McCain might respond to Obama's insistence on continuing with the debate:

1. McCain could still show up. If the compromise deal gets worked out in time, McCain could show up at the debate a victor, having slayed the economic dragon, and having gained the moral high ground, as well. ... Even if the deal isn't signed, McCain could still show up -- and ask to focus on the economy (though the debate is supposed to be about foreign policy).

2. McCain could skip it. McCain says he won't debate unless there is a deal. Pictures of McCain doing real work on the economy at 9 PM on a Friday night (I don't know, he and Lindsay Graham sitting around a boardroom table with a calculator??) juxtaposed with pictures of Obama at a debate might make McCain look serious (and, conversely, make Obama look political). Of course, absent those images, this could also backfire.

Don't discount the fact that skipping the debate opens McCain up to criticism that he cost Ole Miss money and prestige. But more importantly, skipping the debate might give Obama a large forum all to himself (granted, few real Americans watch debates on Friday nights -- but this would allow pundits to speculate for days that McCain blew it by not showing up ...)

3. McCain could make a last-minute arrival. Showing up just as the debate begins -- if it comes on the heels of a major bi-partisan compromise or breakthrough -- would be a dramatic entrance, indeed. This could work well, or it also might also be perceived as being too cute by half...

4. McCain could send Palin. (I mentioned this last night). Obama would be in a "no-win" situation, in my view. If he refused to debate her, that would be patronizing. But if he did debate her, he would essentially be conceding that they are at the same level. McCain could then argue that in the real world, a vice president steps in to handle political things when a leader is working on real policy ...

What are your predictions???


TOPICS: Mississippi; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2008; debates; election; elections; financialcrisis; mccain; obama; palin
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Sending Governor Sarah Palin in his stead as he deals with the financial crisis would be a masterstroke, IMO: It's a lose/lose for Team Obama no matter how you slice it.
1 posted on 09/25/2008 1:53:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin would be a killer idea. Bill Clinton just said that McCain did the right thing.

Sorry Obama....


2 posted on 09/25/2008 1:55:22 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting....
susie


3 posted on 09/25/2008 1:56:35 PM PDT by brytlea (Obama--Keep the change!)
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To: Islaminaction

Send Sarah!


4 posted on 09/25/2008 1:56:39 PM PDT by nobamanada
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sending Governor Sarah Palin in his stead as he deals with the financial crisis would be a masterstroke, IMO: It's a lose/lose for Team Obama no matter how you slice it.

Though seemingly a masterstroke, Obama could then in turn, at the last moment, insert Biden into his place to make the first debate a complete VP-candidate one. Obama would then fall back and suggest they use the original VP debate date for a rescheduled presidential debate.

5 posted on 09/25/2008 1:58:42 PM PDT by Miles the Slasher
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Governor Palin needs more practice just because of the subject matter. It would be cruel to send her in unprepared.


6 posted on 09/25/2008 1:59:20 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray every day for McCains, Palins and the USA...and the rest of us, too.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mac should breeze in at the last minute and kick his skinny behind. “I didn’t need any prep.”


7 posted on 09/25/2008 1:59:38 PM PDT by jessduntno (.Well King, This case is CLOSED.)
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To: nobamanada

I’m with you. When I heard this news yesterday my first thought was that he should just send Governer Palin to debate him.


8 posted on 09/25/2008 1:59:58 PM PDT by Federalist Society
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To: Islaminaction

Funny, Kooky Kusinich was just on Cavuto a few minutes ago and he stuck up for McCain and said they both should be there working this out and did not fault McCain at all and even used McCain’s line, it should be “all hands on deck” and that the debate could be postponed, it is no big deal. Sounds like another who doesn’t like Obambi.


9 posted on 09/25/2008 1:59:58 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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He could video conference in. That would probably be best. Sort of a “I will debate you, but I will also do my duty as a public servant.” Since Obama isn’t doing that as well, it would make him look bad.


10 posted on 09/25/2008 1:59:58 PM PDT by tearlenb
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To: nobamanada
Send Sarah!

How diabolical... Drive Barry nuts!

Spontaneous questions at Ground Zero today. She did well...
11 posted on 09/25/2008 2:00:05 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: madison10

“I think Governor Palin needs more practice just because of the subject matter. It would be cruel to send her in unprepared.”

Oh, c’mon. It’s Bambi. She could field dress that mouse in thirty seconds.


12 posted on 09/25/2008 2:00:51 PM PDT by jessduntno (.Well King, This case is CLOSED.)
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To: nobamanada

Obama won’t be prepared to tackle Sarah Barracuda - I’d send her in a heartbeat, but McCain will show up. He’s the honorable guy, remember?


13 posted on 09/25/2008 2:01:12 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: tearlenb

Sen Shelby (AL-R) is on Fox now saying that the plan of Paulson pretty much sucks and brought up the petition of the economists that say it is a bad plan. No agreement yet.


14 posted on 09/25/2008 2:01:34 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Having Sarah pinch-hit would be a big mistake. It would make McCain look like he’s afraid to debate Obama, or maybe even be seen as a sign of disrespect.

If I were McCain, I would show up, do the debate, and put Sarah in the audience, front row center. This would distract The Obama so much he wouldn’t be able to get anything out except “um, uh... uh, breathlizer... uh... um.....”


15 posted on 09/25/2008 2:03:15 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: jessduntno
Mac should breeze in at the last minute and kick his skinny behind. “I didn’t need any prep.”

Actually Karl Rove said just that yesterday, he said Mccain is not someone that likes to spend time prepping, he likes to just go do it...that shows he knows his stuff, doesn't have to sit and memorize everything like Obambi is likely doing.
16 posted on 09/25/2008 2:03:38 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Part of the president's job is to deal with more than one thing at once

And what two things is Obambi juggling?

17 posted on 09/25/2008 2:04:16 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Pravious

I agree. Besides, it just isn’t done, this is a Presidential debate, the people want the two PRESIDENTIAL candidates debating. Sending Sarah is not an option in a Presidential debate.


18 posted on 09/25/2008 2:05:24 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: LegalEagle61

Great minds.....I wish. Didn’t see Rove, but I thinnk it could be a real “I won’t hold his youth against him” moment.


19 posted on 09/25/2008 2:05:27 PM PDT by jessduntno (.Well King, This case is CLOSED.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama has a great way to deal with issues.

Vote PRESENT and walk away. Some new type of multi tasking I suppose.


20 posted on 09/25/2008 2:06:01 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: LegalEagle61

Kookinitch said that!!! wwoohhoooo


21 posted on 09/25/2008 2:06:53 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: LegalEagle61

Oh yeah, I really want to hear from the academic elites.

They would like nothing better than to see the USA in free fall.


22 posted on 09/25/2008 2:07:44 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’ll show up....and wipe the floor with Obama.


23 posted on 09/25/2008 2:09:34 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I really like number 4 though not likely. Mccain will show even if he didn't want to and make a big note of saying with the economy in crisis they should be working at their current jobs as senators and have postponned but Obama who is inexperienced doesn't realize what priorities of a leader really are and that sometimes things change and you have to adapt.
24 posted on 09/25/2008 2:11:13 PM PDT by jennguhl (Let's stop letting the minority dictate the majority.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I really like number 4 though not likely. Mccain will show even if he didn't want to and make a big note of saying with the economy in crisis they should be working at their current jobs as senators and have postponned but Obama who is inexperienced doesn't realize what priorities of a leader really are and that sometimes things change and you have to adapt.
25 posted on 09/25/2008 2:11:20 PM PDT by jennguhl (Let's stop letting the minority dictate the majority.)
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To: jessduntno

Now fat gayboy Franks is saying that McCain and the Repubs are undermining the Paulson plan....lolololololol.....this is great.


26 posted on 09/25/2008 2:11:58 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: LegalEagle61

Shelby is not putting up with BS.


27 posted on 09/25/2008 2:13:24 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let's get serious - there is only one choice - McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Right Cal Gal

:And what two things is Obambi juggling?”

Welp, that just about nails it.

And such a great tagline, too.

Okay, with both those things weighed, you get my vote for post of the day.


28 posted on 09/25/2008 2:13:35 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Why'dja say I was a community organizer? You know how I always wanted to pretend I was a soldier.)
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To: LegalEagle61

McCain is trying to protect taxpayers, Sen Burr is on and says that they pretty much are adding input, but sounded like McCain is adding stuff that matters.


29 posted on 09/25/2008 2:14:05 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You are so partisan that you can't see that Sarah is a flop. She's a hit with conservatives, but she is NOT impressive on tv.

How about McCain just shows up at the debate, doesn't play games, and wins on the ISSUES? How about some real leadership on the issues? That's what this country needs! Not more games!

30 posted on 09/25/2008 2:14:56 PM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Send in Sarah ... all Barry’s careful prep goes out the window. He will be so freaked out that he won’t be able to speak coherently.


31 posted on 09/25/2008 2:16:41 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (don't worry, they only want to take water out of the other guy's side of the bucket.)
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To: Texas_shutterbug

I disagree that Sarah is a flop. That is not true. But, she should not be debating Obama, even though we’d love it-—it has to be McCain, HE is the Pres. candidate. Sarah energized the party and I think can be very valuable as VP down the road, I would never say she is a flop. But she is a great conservative and the ticket needed that. She will still bring votes that McCain may not have gotten so she is no way a flop.


32 posted on 09/25/2008 2:18:02 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: Right Cal Gal
And what two things is Obambi juggling?

Damned good question. "Well, I'm uh prepping uh for the uh debate and uh I'm waiting, uh waiting for Harry to call me on the uh phone" is probably the answer.

33 posted on 09/25/2008 2:19:40 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (don't worry, they only want to take water out of the other guy's side of the bucket.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can I vote for the Palin scenario as well?

It would be a gutsy move and prefect proof that She has what it takes to be VP...


34 posted on 09/25/2008 2:20:49 PM PDT by usmcobra (A vote for McCain & Palin is a vote against Obama bin Biden)
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To: Miles the Slasher
At which point, if Gov. Palin has half the tactical smarts that I believe she does, she could/would say something like:

''Well, gee, I know Senator Obama prefers teleprompters, but I didn't really think he was scared of a girl.''

35 posted on 09/25/2008 2:23:49 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Right Cal Gal

Answer: His nuts.


36 posted on 09/25/2008 2:29:08 PM PDT by DJ Republica (President Palin is a friend of Iesu, and Jews.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about McCain shows up, but the theme of the debate gets shifted to the Economy and the bailout package. Bye bye Barry’s careful preparation...he’d have to think on his feet ...> trainwreck...


37 posted on 09/25/2008 2:30:44 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: LegalEagle61
Prepping takes away sincerity. You can not say something that really means anything if you have been planning to say it for a long time and all the ideas you are spewing came from other people that were your crutch to get there. McCain will show his strength and experience. NO matter how much experience the liberal nuts say he has against someoen who has been in the game as long as McCain will look like a kindergartner while the professor gives you a schooling. I mean in any job field at all the guy who's been around the longest usually knows the most.
38 posted on 09/25/2008 2:31:02 PM PDT by jennguhl (Let's stop letting the minority dictate the majority.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He could try doing this:

1. Keep everyone (mostly Obama) in suspense
2. Hammer out a Republican deal, make announcement tomorrow that the deal details will be announced at the debate.
3. Attend debate
4. Announce all the details, basically free market conservative gems that socialists will hate but independents and conservative voters will love.

Objectively speaking, its probably not a good idea to skip the debate outright. Independents need to hear more from McCain so he can close the deal.

39 posted on 09/25/2008 2:33:24 PM PDT by o2bfree
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look, if Obama wants to talk while everyone else is in D.C. I say let him do it. I don’t think that image is going to go over too well with Americans.


40 posted on 09/25/2008 2:35:36 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know, but I have a hunch that McCain will attend the debate. After today and tomorrow there will be a point where he can say that the work is done, or all but done, and there is plenty of time to go ahead with the debate. He’ll thank his colleagues for “working together quickly” as what made it possible. Something like that.


41 posted on 09/25/2008 2:35:54 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: StAntKnee
He's juggling trying to learn on foreign policy since he doesn't really know much, and anyone who disagrees show me solid evidence he has and not just some BS bill he tacked his name onto. I want real evidence like what leaders has he met with, what did tehy discuss, why would he discuss policy when he is only a lowly Senator and has no bearing on treaties, negotiations, and military strategy? SO juggling learning about foreign policy he is also trying to keep Michelle hidden form the public since she really has gotten him into some pickles, reigning in crazy old maybe dementia setting in Biden, and trying to spot Palin coming in and ripping at his numbers. I mean it is kind of hard to see her coming when she's in full camo and Scent-block!! LOL !
42 posted on 09/25/2008 2:36:44 PM PDT by jennguhl (Let's stop letting the minority dictate the majority.)
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To: Miles the Slasher

Actually, that wouldn’t be bad either. Biden would be truly last-minute while Palin is prepared.


43 posted on 09/25/2008 2:55:14 PM PDT by arthurus (Old age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: LegalEagle61

I certainly hope that the Republicans are undermining the Paulson plan. This thing needs to go away.


44 posted on 09/25/2008 3:00:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Old age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two things at once? You mean like liberating Iraq while continuing to rebuild Afghanistan?


45 posted on 09/25/2008 3:01:23 PM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: Pravious
Having Sarah pinch-hit would be a big mistake. It would make McCain look like he’s afraid to debate Obama, or maybe even be seen as a sign of disrespect.

If Obama and the LSM had been claiming that "well, Palin is good, but she's not at the top of the ticket" then you'd have a point. Since Obama et al. have claimed that she's an unqualified lightweight, then he should be able to clean her clock easily. Unless, of course, he's an even-less-qualified lightweight.

That having been said, I would suggest that the right approach would be to announce that if there is a debate, Palin will be attending, and Obama/Biden can decide which of them, if either, is going to debate her.

46 posted on 09/25/2008 3:46:33 PM PDT by supercat
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To: jennguhl

Heckuvan observation about keeping Michelle out of sight.

Do you think we’ll be seeing her face a whole lot as we get closer to Nov. 4? Do you think we’ll be hearing the “downright mean” quote? Or the “First time I’ve been proud of America”?

We’d better.

Because America needs to imagine her as First Lady. Before they decide.


47 posted on 09/25/2008 3:47:36 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Why'dja say I was a community organizer? You know how I always wanted to pretend I was a soldier.)
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To: Ramius

You’re right, Ramius.

McCain has to show up if the work is done.

“I’ve helped the President and my colleagues on both sides of the aisle get things moving. A great deal of credit should go to the leaders of both parties. Now, let’s get on with this debate.”

If no solution to the financial crisis, he has to video in. After having made such a dramatic move as to suspend campaigning, he simply cannot drop off the radar.

“Hey, look, I’m here in Washington between meetings on the financial crisis. Because a leader has to go where he’s needed. Even if you’re multi-tasking, you put your physical presence in the place deemed top priority. I’ve got some media weenies in the room to make sure that nobody is feeding me answers, so let’s get that out of the way and get to rumbling.”

Like that.

BTW, remember all the gnashing about Bush not going down to the Katrina site? Why is proper to phone in leadership now with, perhaps, an even bigger crisis?

Is what Sarah or John should say.

I don’t need no credit for saying it first. It’s amazing the results a leader can achieve when he doesn’t care who takes the credit.

He should say that, too.


48 posted on 09/25/2008 3:56:02 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Why'dja say I was a community organizer? You know how I always wanted to pretend I was a soldier.)
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To: Right Cal Gal
And what two things is Obambi juggling?

Himself, and... Himself?

the infowarrior

49 posted on 09/25/2008 4:29:49 PM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: infowarrior

Why not move up the Palin Biden debate.
That way Ole Miss doesnt lose.


50 posted on 09/25/2008 4:42:57 PM PDT by mouse1
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