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Maverick McCain Goes Soft Again Scolds GOP for Fanning Democrat Illinois Blagogate Scandal
Scared Monkeys ^ | December 14, 2008

Posted on 12/14/2008 12:31:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Why did John McCain lose to Obama in the 2008 Presidential election? Was it because of the Obama faux message of change? Obama’s get out the vote? Nope. It was because too many Conservatives and Republicans were not inspired my the maverick because they did not trust McCain to act like a Republican. Suddenly, in the wake of a senate seat for sale scandal and Obama not being openly honest, McCain decides to be “mavericky”.

Dear Senator McCain, the way that this has been handled by Obama screams that people ask questions. When even Democrats begin to question the silence and handling of this issue, who are you Senator McCain to scold your own party?

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Have Republicans finally figured out that John McCain is only a “maverick” when he goes against his own Republican party? John McCain, who when the tough got going during the Presidential election, decided to go soft is now chiding the GOP for fanning the flames of the Democratic Blagojevich senate seat for sale corruption. How soft has John McCain become since losing to Obama? Better yet, by his comments below it would appear that McCain believe that Chicago politics is a walk through the candy cane and gum drop forest in fantasy land.

McCain replied: “I think that the Obama campaign should and will give all information necessary. You know, in all due respect to the Republican National Committee and anybody — right now, I think we should try to be working constructively together, not only on an issue such as this, but on the economy stimulus package, reforms that are necessary. And so, I don’t know all the details of the relationship between President-elect Obama’s campaign or his people and the governor of Illinois, but I have some confidence that all the information will come out. It always does, it seems to me.”

It’s back to old times for McCain as the “Maverick” must want to be loved by the MSM and back in their good graces as their favorite lovable loser Republican. John McCain might want to actually figure out what side of the aisle he wants to sit on as the Gateway Pundit puts it, ‘because, we all know how respectful the Democrats would be if George Bush’s chief of staff and leading Republicans were caught in such a horrendous abuse of the law.”

I supposed this is how McCain thinks he will get back in the good graces of the media. John “can’t we all get along” McCain really does need to ride off into the sunset. Heaven forbid Senator McCain that corruption be addressed in Blagogate and all individuals responsible be lead accountable. Isn’t this simply amazing as the problems that faced the United States were going on prior to the Presidential election, yet McCain did not have an issue with Democratic opposition.

The Arizona senator said he will disagree sometimes with Obama on important issues, but that the nation’s problems are too daunting for political divisiveness.

Make no mistake about it, Barack Obama owes Americans transparency and full disclosure as to the contacts with Blagogate as that is what the Obamamessiah ran on during the campaign. Even the LA Times, that conservative bastion of news reporting is questioning the handling of this saga by Obama.

As a representative of the outgoing senator and president-elect and a member of the same party, it would be hard to believe Emanuel or someone did not communicate somehow with Blagojevich or his staff.

What’s puzzled some people and raised suspicions among others is Emanuel’s refusal to talk about it (reportedly physically pushing one reporter’s tape recorder away and having a verbal altercation with another) and the delay on Obama’s part in releasing the promised diary of contacts.

From a practical point of view, if everything is above board, what’s to hide?

From a political communications and PR point of view, the atypically clumsy silence and delay creates doubts among even some Democrats, an information vacuum that opponents seek to fill with items like this video below and that has turned what could have been a one- or two-day state scandal story into nearly a week-long saga now involving a new national leader who promised to change the way the people’s business is done.

All of which also distracts from the message the Obama camp would prefer be focused on: the formation of a talented new Cabinet before Obama escapes Chicago’s frigid South Side to Hawaii for the holidays. The scandal is now certain to be a major topic today on the Sunday morning political talk shows as listed here.


TOPICS: Arizona; Illinois; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 110th; blago; blagojevich; corruption; mccain; obama
What a schmuck!
1 posted on 12/14/2008 12:31:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain is turning into another Jimmy Carter.


2 posted on 12/14/2008 12:32:02 PM PST by rickmichaels (WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN OBAMA'S TRUTH SQUADS RUN WILD ON YOU???)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank God he’s not president-elect. That would be the end of the party.

That was close.


3 posted on 12/14/2008 12:33:41 PM PST by BobL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain had his chance and say. He should STFU.


4 posted on 12/14/2008 12:33:54 PM PST by Boiling Pots (Anthony Kennedy: The 2nd most important person in Government 2009-2013. Pray for his good health.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Screw you McCain. I only voted for YOU because of Palin. You were NEVER my pick.......you were chosen by the media. Weak, weak, weak.


5 posted on 12/14/2008 12:35:21 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"before Obama escapes Chicago’s frigid South Side to Hawaii for the holidays"

Going back for more 'Operation Certifigate Cleanup'????

PS - McCain has made himself insignificant...no one cares what he has to say.... :o

6 posted on 12/14/2008 12:37:19 PM PST by BossLady (Ok Everybody......Get Ready For ......'THE MOOD RING PRESIDENCY'......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Arizona senator said he will disagree sometimes with Obama on important issues, but that the nation’s problems are too daunting for political divisiveness.

Then do all of us true conservatives a favor and get the hell out of politics and just lay on the beach and watch the sun set.

7 posted on 12/14/2008 12:39:08 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's hard for me to be upset that Obama won when the guy we ran has turned out to be such a complete tool.

Scratch that. He was always a complete tool.

8 posted on 12/14/2008 12:40:10 PM PST by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Gotta admit, the loser is a real nice guy.

There are predators, and there are victims.
In politics, winners are much more effective than nice guys.

I can admire a nice guy, but not when he represents me.

9 posted on 12/14/2008 12:40:18 PM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: EGPWS

To paraphrase hte fine King Juan Carlos, the appropriate answer to McCain is:

Porque no te callas?

What a loser. THe further we get from the election, the more convinced I become that there were very serious character issues with McCain. He’s done nothing but backstab his own people since he lost. Good riddance.


10 posted on 12/14/2008 12:41:48 PM PST by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WTF is little Johnny’s game plan? The guy acts deranged lately.Even worse than he normally is.


11 posted on 12/14/2008 12:42:44 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Will someone please shut this idiot up?!?!
12 posted on 12/14/2008 12:45:54 PM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: BobL
Thank God he’s not president-elect. That would be the end of the party.
That was close.”

Yup.
It could well turn out that the best thing that could have happened to the Republican Party was for Juan McCain to have lost.
There is a silver lining in every cloud, and McCain's loss in itself, was a very good thing for the Republican Party, evil as Comrade Obama is.

13 posted on 12/14/2008 12:49:56 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain doesn’t yet realize that 2012 is beyond his reach.


14 posted on 12/14/2008 12:53:53 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Somebody in Arizona should NOW announce his candidacy for 2010 McCain's Senate seat. That's the only way to:

a) put pressure on McCain's possible thinking and behavior in the next 2 years.
b) have candidate(s) in place before the primary that GOP voters could decide on and coalesce around for knocking McCain out in 2010 and not give a seat to Democrats, because it would be someone already familiar to the public at large.

Same should be done with Voinovich and other marginal Republican Senators, especially in, but not limited to, safe GOP states.

Primaries are where it's at. We need to start NOW to bring in the fresh blood, to vet them and give them visibility and public support, or we'll keep repeating 2006 and 2008, like Groundhog Day. Waiting to do this until the primaries is suicidal, as we'll wind up with the equivalents of Rudy, John and Mitt as Big 3 (if that) in states and districts.

And then we'll be back to “He can win, because nobody knows who these other GOP guys are”. And then we'll be back to “vote for me because I am not a Democrat” ...

Time to start choosing and announcing replacements for these seats is NOW. How do we wind up with 2 Democratic Senators from Montana? By doing nothing to replace the “old guards” from the “Good Ol’ Boy Network” pf Senators and Representatives.

/End of the Call to Arms rant.

15 posted on 12/14/2008 12:54:17 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I feel soiled that I had to vote for this guy.


16 posted on 12/14/2008 12:57:26 PM PST by citizen (Fascism: All persons, capital & activities exist to support the will & best interests of the State.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

By 2012 McCain will be Senior Advisor to whoever is running the DNC.


17 posted on 12/14/2008 12:57:29 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("One was drawing funny faces, but his own was grave"--Richard Hughes, A High Wind in Jamaica)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think McCain is doing what all losing presidential candidates do. Going for that big “Nobel Peas Prize.” It’s the booby prize for those who come in second in the U.S. presidential sweepstakes. To actually win it though, you’ve got to talk and act as though you’re a big Commie.


18 posted on 12/14/2008 1:10:53 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (For more information on America's "new direction" read The Road to Serfdom. by Friedrich A. Hayek.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; RushIsMyTeddyBear; rickmichaels; EGPWS; CutePuppy; citizen

Here is my unpublished OpEd that I hope at least grated on some of the Republican elite I sent it to these last few months.

Besides John McCain’s problems of granting amnesty to illegal aliens and restricting freedom of speech, he is severely deficient in the areas of national security and integrity.

Politics is the art of compromise and leadership is the art of principle. Lincoln used superb political skills to implement some of the most cogent and insightful principles to guide this nation. McCain has used political skills to implement compromises consistent with increasing personal acclaim among liberal media and politicians.

The former is dead and the latter is alive, but dead to principles unrelated to his immediate personal advancement. Since leadership is absent from the Democrat and Republican Parties, each individual must make a way to manage commitment to principle and political party affiliation. Each individual must answer questions as to what extent, under what circumstances and when, if ever, do you forsake conservative principles to align with an enemy of your beliefs against a greater enemy of your beliefs? People should not delude themselves into thinking they are making a morally or ethically supportable choice when such weighty utilitarian and cynical issues dominate the thinking in both parties.

John McCain lacks leadership for the War on Terror. His leadership codified the Army interrogation manual making terrorists legal combatants. His leadership granted terrorists American citizenship rights under Fifth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. He thereby ensures information vital to defeat terrorists remains sacred and unobtainable. Terrorists are unresponsive to direct questioning and psychological gambits. Therefore, interrogators need all stress and coercion techniques our military encounters in survival schools. McCain embraces liberal orthodoxy considering those methods torture, but his searing experiences call forth contrary insights he must suppress.

McCain especially understands from the Geneva Conventions terrorists are not insurgents or freedom fighters; when captured, certainly not prisoners of war. They are not armed forces, militias, or volunteer corps of any country or authority. These killers are not members of organized resistance movements carrying arms openly. They have no distinctive identifier. Terrorists cannot even qualify as spies or saboteurs destroying infrastructure required to support military operations. McCain understands Geneva Conventions intended to isolate such forces, provide them no protections, and allow destruction with any overwhelming furies needed to crush their abominations. Knowing these factors he has promised to close Guantanamo Bay, inviting terrorists into our legal system. He has decided to accommodate extraordinarily savage behavior, which checkmates national laws intended to manage simple murder and kidnapping, and renders Posse Comitatus a crumbling deception.

McCain especially appreciates from our Constitution that laws guaranteeing civil liberties presuppose operation within an invincible society. He more than most understands Alexander Hamilton’s words that devastating, unforeseeable perils must lead deliberations. The Federal government’s three branches primary responsibility is to pursue Hamilton’s admonition that powers exist without limitation; providing capabilities thwarting dangers as well as repelling attacks. McCain understands powerful warfare capabilities require potent intelligence acquisition and exploitation before and throughout campaigns.

The framers of our Constitution and the Geneva Conventions held powerful positions throughout the darkest times of our country and the world. They were our Founding Fathers, and parents and grandparents of the Greatest Generation. Their words expressed durable morality earned in our fight for freedom, and against the ultimate bloody deluge of the 20th century. These first generations expressed principles derived from confronting shattering tragedies, and earning peace through victory.

John McCain’s actions are particularly reprehensible because he turns a blind eye to the council of these people. McCain continually seeks popular advancement by placating those coveting luxurious morality requiring shelter from hard choices and danger awareness. His crime is repudiating military and intelligence professionals facing hard choices when confronting shrewd, ruthless enemies obscured behind frightening uncertainties. Instead he follows the success of Bill Clinton, who cemented in politics for both parties the idea that character did not matter. There are no principles, but only ideas that secure possession of an office. John McCain is the most prominent Republican example of this new direction towards possession of power through careful exploitation of perceived expediency.

John McCain succumbed to the terrible addiction of political power. The same addiction expressed itself differently in fellow Navy officer Randy Cunningham, who was the Navy’s first Vietnam ace. Over the decades the honor and moral authority of both were gradually traded away for influence in the political arena. To me McCain is like a cadaver prepared for viewing. The removal of blood and organs equates to the trading away of honor and moral authority. The reputation that remains is like the cosmetics applied for viewing the corpse at the funeral. It is easy for anyone to get onto the same sort of gently downward sloping path. The final result is tragic, but we should not suffer such a pathetic and contemptible modern day Macbeth or Hamlet as President.


19 posted on 12/14/2008 1:12:03 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: CutePuppy

P.S. It’s not unlike establishing a “shadow government”, only in this case it would be a “shadow Senator”, “shadow Representative”, shadow Governor” that would let them know that they will not get their nomination and seat back by default, seniority, incumbency, but only on the merit. Republivans are supposed to believe in meritocracy, but they don’t practice it in primary elections.

Prospect of real competition and serious, not token, protest vote and being out of the job after primaries should tighten some muscles in these people and do some wonderful things to their brains as well. And if not, sayonara after primaries.


20 posted on 12/14/2008 1:15:25 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain would have gotten maybe ten votes without Palen.


21 posted on 12/14/2008 1:24:05 PM PST by toomuchcoffee ( Yeah, I'll help you buy some real estate)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hated the thought of having McCain as the nominee from the start and I swore I wouldn’t vote for him if he was.

If Hillary had been the nominee I might have stayed home, but I consider Obama to be dangerous, so I was prepared to hold my nose and vote for Juan.

Then Sarah joined the team, and I could be enthusiastic about her!

Now, I can’t say I am unhappy Juan lost. If he had won, he would be doing this same crap, and I would have had to hope that he would.... pass the presidency on to Sarah.

At least I am not surprised when Obama or one of his crew is a traitor.


22 posted on 12/14/2008 1:33:31 PM PST by Grammy
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To: FlingWingFlyer

McCain is now buddy buddy with the press again. He has hopped on the “Bash Sarah bandwagon” he wants the love and attention from the media again, so now he will do different media shows, bashing Sarah saying that he hasn’t decided on whether he would support her for President. THANKS JOHN, Sarah don’t need ya, you know why, because John McCain is a train wreck, I hope Sarah says “John McCain, who the hell is that, never heard of him” I can’t wait for Sarah’s book to come out so that she can show the world the REAL John McCain, actually I think McCain has already shown the world who he is, a RINO piece of poo, at least I can give Obama credit for not lying about who he is, I knew who he was from day 1, McCain on the other hand has been a fraud and I just couldn’t see it, or didn’t want to see it, I can honestly say right now that I hate John McCain, because he used Sarah, and threw her away when he didn’t get what he wanted. It’s not like he would have allowed her to do anything if he had won anyway, he would have locked her in the closet and had the presidency all to himself. He is the TRUE definition of a loser


23 posted on 12/14/2008 1:40:56 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Relevancy was never one of McCains’ strong suits! Sad.


24 posted on 12/14/2008 1:58:38 PM PST by tajgirvan (Please pray for FReeper alpha-8-25-02 to be healed for God's Glory Thank you.:)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like an invitation to Chrissy's show and another chance to eat the sandwiches in their green room to me....

25 posted on 12/14/2008 2:11:08 PM PST by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"... Senator John McCain: former POW and Presidential candidate, a man trapped in his own delusions... "

26 posted on 12/14/2008 2:23:49 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's all fine and dandy to be fair in one's criticism of a political opponent but that doesn't mean you turn a blind eye to an opponent party's ongoing criminal activity. A Republican that did what William Jefferson or Kwame Fitzpatrick, Charlie Rangel, Blago, Emmanuel etc. did would NOT be reelected by Republicans, would not be defended by the Alphabets, would not get a pass from academics.

That's the difference Mr. McCain - you hit back when struck. You can do it with a smile but you have to do it or you'll get hit again.

27 posted on 12/14/2008 2:43:25 PM PST by torchthemummy (Obama-Turning down an illegal offer by an unidicted crook does not deserve praise.)
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To: BobL
Thank God he’s not president-elect. That would be the end of the party.

But instead, W's Bailout-of-the-Month Club becomes the end of the Party.

.

28 posted on 12/14/2008 2:46:58 PM PST by repentant_pundit (Strong leaders are overrated. We need strong followers...of the Constitution)
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To: repentant_pundit

“Thank God he’s not president-elect. That would be the end of the party.
>>>>
But instead, W’s Bailout-of-the-Month Club becomes the end of the Party.”

W’s certainly not helping the party, but, at this point, everyone knows he’s gone as a player...and is discounted as such.


29 posted on 12/14/2008 3:07:15 PM PST by BobL
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To: VeniVidiVici

McCain doesn’t yet realize that 2012 is beyond his reach.

Why would you say that??? The idiot American public elected Obama. Can we be sure they wouldn’t elect a cryogenically preserved RINO?


30 posted on 12/14/2008 3:25:19 PM PST by millerph
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To: VeniVidiVici

McCain doesn’t yet realize that 2012 is beyond his reach.

Why would you say that??? The idiot American public elected Obama. Can we be sure they wouldn’t elect a cryogenically preserved RINO?


31 posted on 12/14/2008 3:25:22 PM PST by millerph
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To: VeniVidiVici

McCain doesn’t yet realize that 2012 is beyond his reach.

Why would you say that??? The idiot American public elected Obama. Can we be sure they wouldn’t elect a cryogenically preserved RINO?


32 posted on 12/14/2008 3:25:28 PM PST by millerph
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To: CutePuppy

“Somebody in Arizona should NOW announce his candidacy for 2010 McCain’s Senate seat. That’s the only way to::

The chance someone could knock him out in the primary is tiny barring a giant scandal.


33 posted on 12/14/2008 3:42:16 PM PST by DemonDeac
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and this socialist rino and the GOP that supported him wonder why they lost...the GOP is RIP


35 posted on 12/14/2008 5:56:31 PM PST by SerafinQ
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To: DemonDeac
The chance someone could knock him out in the primary is tiny barring a giant scandal.

That may well be, and I am sorry for people (or conservatives) of Arizona, but without "Shadow Senator" or "Shadow Representative" there is usually no one holding their elected officials feet to the fire or telling people back in the state / district what they say or do or their dealmaking in Washington. In other words, there are no checks on their actions by the time primary comes around and people don't know the primary challenger(s) from Adam, so they go with the "safe" choice, a "known entity" that they know "can win".

What needs to be done, if we want to have people who represent us in Congress instead of ones that do now, is for them to start a process of being a "Shadow" to elected official they want to be either accountable for their actions or be replaced. It needs to be done early and openly, so people will get used to the idea and will start comparing two (or more) candidates well before the short primary.

That doesn't apply just to McCain, or just in this election cycle. This is more of a blueprint of making and keeping GOP conservative by changing the House and the Senate from the outside in, at least in the conservative states and districts with marginal or abysmal representation by Republicans, so they won't be replaced by faux "conservative" "Blue Dog" Democrats, like we now have Senators in Montana, Nebraska and some otherwise reliably conservative Republican states.

Otherwise we are reduced to convincing ourselselves that we can "win by losing", where people are at best apathetic about their Republican representative or worse yet, want him out so they have a chance to replace him in next cycle. We know what happened in 2006 and 2008 with that "strategy".

We all know how Democrats keep playing a "shadow President" (including literally with West Wing TV series) with their leaders press-conferences. Would not "Shadow Senator" or "Shadow Representative" from their own party serve Republicans and their constituents even better? I think it's worth a try. Actually, I think it's the only way to remain relevant, let alone win.

36 posted on 12/15/2008 12:32:53 AM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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