Posted on 02/21/2009 5:38:42 PM PST by SmithL
You have got to believe that the California Republican base is dispirited when a delegate at this weekend's state party convention is circulating a resolution to apologize to former Democratic Gov. Gray Davis for recalling him from office.
But that is exactly what party delegate Alex Burrola is suggesting.
The resolution, underscoring some party activists' seething displeasure with "post-partisan" GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, reads as follows:
"Whereas, in 2003 a grassroots effort was begun to recall then-Governor Gray Davis from office on grounds which included gross mismanagement of the budget and finances of the State of California;
"...Whereas, candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger campaigned as a reformer and champion of fiscal discipline and responsibility who would bring change and reform to government which it sorely needed;
"Whereas, in the subsequent years Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has instead proven to govern as a tax and spend politician precisely similar to the one he campaigned to replace in the recall election;
"Whereas, the trust and confidence of Republicans has been betrayed and shattered by Governor Schwarzenegger's repeated and ongoing efforts to collaborate with Democrats in the Legislature to seek solutions to the state's fiscal crisis by irresponsible borrowing and increasing taxes and refusal to make the needed reductions in state spending;
. . .
"Therefore, be it resolved that the California Republican Party officially extends a heartfelt and sincere apology to former Governor Gray Davis for its role in recalling him from office."
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
Whereas, don’t blame me — I voted for Tom McClintock.
I voted against the recall.....knowing all this fiscal sh*t was surely coming down the pike, I wanted in on Davis’ watch; now it’ll - of course - be a Republican blight.
GOP in California are a bunch of hypocrites!! Those who screamed the loudest are the ones now caught with their pants down.
Woopsie...I wanted it to be on Davis' watch.
Is it possible to ZOT a resolution?
Zot this spineless rino wimp out of the party.
I would not call it evidence that the GOP base is dispirited. To me, it seems like a feat of genius—a petition to apologize to Gray Davis for the recall... It insulates them from the incompetence of the liberal GOP Governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and assures that the GOP will be able to run as the conservative party in the next election.
Good post, you are living up to your screen name!
Exactly. The recall was a huge mistake. I doubt any Republican could have forced this Democrat-controlled legislature into fiscal discipline: it's run by the public employee unions. It happens Schwarzen-Kennedy was the worst of all the choices. Until the public sees who's really responsible for this mess and retires Democrats from the Legislature, this farce will continue. The petition is the only hope I see of insulating Republicans from years of blame for this disaster.
Same here. Recall Arnie!
Perhaps. But Ahhnold made the promise, and didn't keep it.
No the recall was fine. What was wrong was the Orange County RINO Republican machine supporting Arnie. McClintock would have line-item vetoed enough spending that we would be in much better shape now.
Correct.
I doubt it. As conservative as he is, McClintock is a political animal and using the line item veto to the extent necessary would have killed his chances for higher office. I don’t think conservatives stand a chance in CA until Democrats are forced into taking the blame for what they’ve done.
The guy has spent the last couple years patting himself on the back for the recall and using it as a resume enhancer for his later campaigns (even though it didn't turn out the way he planned and the only thing he has to show for it is six years Ahnuld running the state into the ground). One of the reasons I supported Bill Morrow over Kaloogian for Congress, BTW.
Now I got flamed on FR back in '03 -- even by some McClintock supporters -- by urging freepers to "Vote NO Recall, YES on McClintock" once it became clear that the Austrian socialist was the "frontrunner" to replace Davis. (Since the question of WHO would replace Davis was a SEPERATE ballot question, they could still cast a protest vote for a conservative Governor and support McClintock) Some McClintock supporters would even defend themselves against the Arnoldbots here by saying stuff like "Hey! The recall wouldn't have passed without Tom's supporters voting YES! Arnold owes us one!" And indeed, a majority of McClintock supporters did vote yes on recall, even though they knew that would likely result in Ahnuld running in the state.
But RKV has a point -- the recall ITSELF wasn't a bad idea -- it just became that way once the state GOP decided to shove Ahnuld down our throats. (and I must admit that I incorrect predicted the recall wouldn't pass) And in all honesty, it was probably too late to stop the thing once Ahnuld had consolidated GOP support, even though all the conservatives like Kaloogian on the Stop Davis express should have reversed course once they realized just WHO was going to "replace" Davis.
Worse is the "conservatives" who not only bowed to the party's demands to "clear the field" for Arnie and dropped out, but those who caved and ENDORSED Arnold for the job over McClintock because the state GOP wanted him. One of the reasons I've lost respect for people like Bill Simon. Even if he had remained neutral he'd be seen in a better light today.
I'd rather see the California GOP pass a resolution admitting they were wrong for backing Ahnuld's call for a "special election" in 2005. That was another issue I got flamed by some conservatives on -- for pointing it was a COMPLETE waste of time and money to put referendum questions on the ballot statewide in a "special election" when the SAME thing could have placed on the ballot a few monthes later for free during a REGULAR ELECTION. Voters can still disagree which of those referendum questions were worth supporting -- but the question of whether a "Special Election" itself was the right idea has been answered. It wasn't a good idea, it blew up in Ahnuld's face, and the only thing it accomplished was wasting a ton of time and money.
To be a "conservative party" don't you have to run a conservative candidate?
Recalling Davis was the right thing to do. Voting for a Liberal RINO to replace him was a stupid thing to do.
I don’t agree with you at all. You’re not even close.
X ring.
This resolution reflects anger, not low spirits. I hope it passes.
I plead Guilty as charged .. I voted for and bumped and posted a lot of threads for Tom... don’t think I ever flamed you tho, I saved that for a select few..
I saw the vetting of the Trojan Horse by Buffett and Rothschild... but like you said, by the time the Gub was in and had the party under his pinky, it was pretty much over.
We won’t discuss the folks that were behind elevating the Gub to his lofty perch where he now breathes green air and farts debt.. folks from the moneyed side of the tracks who ‘shipped’ in a foreign action figure to seal the deal.
Yup, we created a monster and it done done us in.. Thanks for trying to warn folks. It was a muddled affair that , in the end, served no one particularly well.
I think the angriest attack I got during the recall was some Arnoldbot saying I was "idiot" for not "realizing" California was now "in play" for the national party and would get a huge influx of GOP donors since "62% of Californians" voted Republican for Governor in the recall.
I got flamed A LOT more for saying Arnold's "Special Election" idea in 2005 was a collasal waste of money and would crash and burn... still don't see why so many freepers agreed with Arnie and were hellbent on voting on those referendums RIGHT AWAY instead of waiting until the 2006 primary.
Personally I just hope all the Howard Kaloogian fans here realize they were wrong. Kaloogian is a great Reagan conservative but a lousy campaigner. He had a (very) brief tenure as a Assemblyman and his whole campaign for U.S. Senator and Congressman was basically "I was chairman of the Recall Gray Davis Committee, therefore you should thank me by electing me to some major office" He falsely claimed he had been personally endorsed for Senate/Congress by the California Pro-Life Council, the Center for Reclaiming America, Tom McClintock, etc., all of whom had to correct the false information on his website and explain they hadn't made an endorsement. Kaloogian just isn't ready for prime time and failing to stop the Arnoldbots from hijacking his Recall Davis drive is not something he should be proud of.
Inflaming the passions of GovernMental Collective Bargaining Organizers is the most ignorant thing a supposed political "leader" can attempt. The objective must be achieved in a subtle, stealthy even cryptic manner!!!
Success has a thousand fathers, but failure is a bastard orphan!!! I can’t recall who said that first...
Ironically, the one measure that COULD have passed was probably the common sense partial notification abortion law (even most ppl who support Roe v. Wade are for parental notification), but Arnie didn't DARE campaign for it, for fear of angering his pro-abortion masters. Had it been on the ballot in a regular election cycle, it would have passed easily. Just look at how Prop. 8 - the traditional marriage amendment - passed in California while Obama while simultaneously getting 60%+ of the vote. Many Obama supporters voted for it, and Obama didn't bother to speak out again it. It was just the radical gay groups lobbying for it, and they're nowhere near as open about their goals as DA UNION thugs are.
Total disaster from Arnold, and he went from 90% girly-man to 100% girlyman afterwards. DA UNIONS neutered Da Governator.
Have any of the freepers who were cheering on Arnie's half-@$$ed "reform" measures for his taxpayer funded "special election" admitted they were wrong on that one too?
From the day Arnie hired the ex-Gray Davis lady — something Kennedy as I recall (no relation to Maria) it was straight downhill... then in 004 when he ran for re-election he hired Steve Schmidt to run his campaign, Schmidt insisted he move to center or even left of center and Arnie was ruined from that day forward.... BTW remember Schmidt is who ran McCain’s campaign — and Schmidt did NOT like Palin.
Line item veto.
You've confusing him with Schwarzenegger. McClintock hasn't been whoring himself out.
Will Arnold be the next commerce secretary for Obambi??
They should recall the Govenator. His political career is dead anyway. And so is his acting career. I wouldn’t pay a cnet to see any new movies of his Just like I gave up most all movies now. I’ll still gladly pay for a Clint Eastwood movie.
If this was an on-line petition, I would sign it. Davis looks downright sane compared to the incompetent, traitorous boob who, based on his Hollywood celebrity, waltzed into the governor’s mansion on the backs of McClintock and the rest of the grassroots activists who did all the work and got their hands dirty.
I don’t think conservatives stand a chance in CA until Democrats are forced into taking the blame for what they’ve done.Conservatives who run for statewide office are always painted by the Democrats and the MSM as anti-abortion extremists who want to take away a woman's right to choose.
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