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What the Choice of Bobby Jindal for the Republican Response Means (Anti-Sarah Barf Alert)
411 mania ^ | February 25, 2009 | Andrew Tobolowsky

Posted on 02/24/2009 10:49:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It's all about values...

Bobby Jindal was chosen to deliver the Republican response to Obama's state of the union address, at this critical juncture in our nation's history. What does that mean?

Two Things:

1) The Republican party is not as dumb as recent events have tricked some of us into thinking.

That sounds condescending, I know, but let's not kid ourselves. The idea that Sarah Palin is qualified for anything over the depth of mayor of a medium sized town (which is basically what Alaska is, except with more anarchists), is a laughable one. Conservatives, although I know many of you are ready to flame me already, remember what David Foster Wallace said—"That other people can see things about you that you yourself cannot see, even if those people are stupid"—and take this advice. The worst thing that could happen to your party in these next four years, even more than the economy recovering completely, is John McCain dying. All across the country even many erstwhile conservative homes will be filled with the sound of people saying "Jesus Christ, thank God he didn't win that election" and "what were those guys THINKING putting us in danger of THAT. Those bastards!". Although my guess is she shot herself in the foot with that SarahPac thing, and refusing to speak at certain Republican benefits. It's unlikely that Republican higher-ups saw her as more than a tool, and now that she's really gone rogue I doubt they'll have much to do with her.

And the Michael Steele thing, mentioned in a recent column of mine is just weird. It's not my fault it's weird. It's weird.

But Bobby Jindal is an incredibly smart, talented individual. The exact right man to answer Obama. I don't agree with pretty much a single thing Jindal says, but it doesn't matter—I don't need opposition I agree with, I just want opposition I can respect. You have to respect Jindal's intelligence—and you have to respect his integrity. No Rick Perry "The bailout is awful, can we have more money" for him. Lousiana will suffer in the short term for it, but if Republicans are right, he's going to come up smelling like roses. One of the only ones who will. That's courage of your convictions.

2) It's laying down the plan for 2012.

Bobby Jindal is a family values republican. Unlike many of these, and no I am not mincing words, he comes off as smart. It sounds like I'm being a douche, and in a way, I am—but it's always been my opinion and I've always stated it that the Republican party would be much better off if the people championing their values weren't so awful. Is that so bad? Wishing my supposed enemies more competent representation? Jindal, as I say is that.

But the way I saw it, after the last election the Republican party had two options, expressed by the presidential and vice presidential candidates respectively. More centrist, more right. More enlightened or more "values". And clearly, they went values. It's an interesting choice, but it seems like they've made it.

Again, I really admire the way they went about it. A terrible idea would have been Palin, but just as bad would have been Huckabee. He's what they want—he believes what they believe, and he's intelligent, sincere, and articulate—but he is still old news. In politics, if you're touched by failure, the stink stays on you. See Edwards, John. IF that's the way the Republican party chooses to go, there couldn't have been a better choice. Smart, talented, principled—and fresh. And they're launching him at just the right time and on just the right issue.

Very, very well done.

Now as anyone who pays attention to what I write about knows, I don't exactly agree that the conservative party is making the right move by going more conservative. The idea, then, is that there is, SOMEWHERE a massive conservative voting bloc which for whatever reason was not accessed in the last election. Given that the "real" Conservative candidates couldn't even win the primaries last year—couldn't even come close—this seems, just logically, unlikely.

I mean, not only did the Liberals get the MOST votes in the election, the two leading conservative candidates, Romney and McCain, were the MOST liberal. Am I crazy or does this idea of this silent values majority, as terrifying as it is to most liberals, seem tenuously supported at best?

You'd have to suppose that they exist, but sat out the primaries. You'd have to suppose that they exist but weren't scared enough of Obama to come out for McCain even WITH Sarah Palin. You'd have to suppose a lot of things—it seems to me, anyway. But then the extent to which I am a political EXPERT is that I am an unpaid columnist for a political website. So I should probably be taken with a grain of salt.

The Republicans are apparently comfortable with supposing either that this values bloc does exist and can be reached, or that it is at least not repugnant ENOUGH to mainstream America that someone from that side of things could capitalize on public uncertainty regarding the bailout IN ADDITION to picking up the values votes, if they're talented enough—and in that they may well be right. And they certainly couldn't have made a better choice.

Frankly, I'm just happy. Two, smart, talented people battling it out for the nation's approval. That's how politics should BE lads! It could always be like this!

(Although I will say that when I heard Jindal speak I thought he might have been trying to sell me a used car. But we'll see how important that is...)


TOPICS: Alaska; Louisiana; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhospeech; conservatism; gop; gopresponse; huckabee; jindal; obama; palin; porkulus; stimulus
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1 posted on 02/24/2009 10:49:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/24/video-jindals-awful-rebuttal/


2 posted on 02/24/2009 10:52:00 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Frankly, I'm just happy. Two, smart, talented people battling it out for the nation's approval. That's how politics should BE lads! It could always be like this!

What an insincere, patronizing wuss.

3 posted on 02/24/2009 10:53:53 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (I miss W)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Uh any article that says Sarah Palin is less qualified than Barack Obama to be anything other than an illegal alien drug dealer who should be impeached-- I stop reading.
4 posted on 02/24/2009 10:54:33 PM PST by exist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not cool for Jindal supporters to bash Sarah.

Right now Sarah is my first choice for 2012, but there good things about Jindal as a Republican leader, and both should be out there conveying their positions on issues.


5 posted on 02/24/2009 10:56:27 PM PST by TheFourthMagi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think ‘a terrible idea would have been Palin’ but not for the reason you give.

Sarah is in the process of deciding which stimulus funds to accept. She would have been accused of playing politics and sour grapes from losing the election.

Jindal is too new on the scene for the MSM to accuse him of that. Besides the MSM feel it is more important now to drive a wedge between Jindal and Palin supporters.


6 posted on 02/24/2009 10:56:43 PM PST by techno
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To: TheFourthMagi

This guy is not a Jindal supporter.


7 posted on 02/24/2009 10:58:44 PM PST by WildcatClan (Iam fimus mos ledo ventus apparatus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Crap article. And I’m willing to bet Sarah was approached to give the rebutted- and she likely denied. A good choice too. Let Obama dig his hole deeper, then let Sarah come at him with a response.


8 posted on 02/24/2009 10:59:03 PM PST by rintense (Go Israel!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It sounds like I'm being a douche, and in a way, I am

It's alright. You don't have a choice.

9 posted on 02/24/2009 11:00:15 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Darkwolf377
"What an insincere, patronizing wuss."

What a twucking fit.

10 posted on 02/24/2009 11:02:53 PM PST by redhead (Don't look at ME! I voted for SARAH!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL

saraH is a Govenor - true, the State has the 2nd smallest population, but it does have the largest bank account (10s of Billions) and some of the best welfare handouts of all the US.

Maybe not all the kids graduate from high school and the State has a growing gang violence problem , drug and alcohol abuse is 4 to 10 times higher than the National average but we still have pretty good hunting and clean air.

(for those that require this /s)

Most Alaskans could care less about Outside reporters and their opinions.


11 posted on 02/24/2009 11:05:56 PM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: redhead

I was thinking more of a cupid stunt.


12 posted on 02/24/2009 11:13:58 PM PST by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Andrew Tobolowsky

just what we need I’m guessing.

another what-culture-war? “conservative”


13 posted on 02/24/2009 11:21:46 PM PST by wardaddy (I feel like a Boer but this time white northern liberals are playing the English)
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As a new Alaskan (12 Years here) this is what I have to say to Andrew Tobolowsky: Fuck you and Go to hell.


14 posted on 02/24/2009 11:28:18 PM PST by FreeRadical (Obama hates me. He probably hates you too.)
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To: TheFourthMagi
Not cool for Jindal supporters to bash Sarah.

Make no mistake, Andrew Tobolowsky is no Jindal supporter. He is an agent provocateur.

15 posted on 02/24/2009 11:30:24 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

An agent provocateur attempt to pass as one of a group to which he doesn’t belong. Tobolowsky says up front he’s not one of us.


16 posted on 02/24/2009 11:35:22 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't care about the numbhead author of the above article... his motives are transparent.

But I've got to say that Jindal with his speech put his presidential aspirations (if he had some for 2012) on ice for the time being.

He is a good guy, but the speech was less about the peril our Republic and economy are in, and way too much about himself and praising Obama. The deliverance wasn't prime time either. Please everyone be honest... this response had nothing on Sarah's RNC acceptance speech.

Jindal might eye 2020. 2012 isn't going to be his year.

17 posted on 02/25/2009 12:05:42 AM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is this wuckphit Tobolowsky and why should I give a sh*t about what happens when he slams his limited number of neurons together?


18 posted on 02/25/2009 1:15:01 AM PST by mkjessup (You're either with our Constitution, or you are with TKU ("The Kenyan Usurper"). CHOOSE!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “smart people” of the Ivy league and establishment have almost destroyed this country in one generation.

A Common Sense politician, and an appeal to God, are what will save us from these overeducated.

Restoration will come from a humbled person, not some puffed up jackass.

In that regard Palin has a chance. Jindel in in his 30’s for heavans sake! THat’s just as stupid as nominating someone in their 70’s (Re: McCain,Dole).


19 posted on 02/25/2009 2:37:30 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to air drop Andrew Tobolowsky in the “small town” he calls Alaska. He’s smart. I’m sure he can walk out. Don’t you worry about the wolves Andrew, they’ll recognize you as one of their own; an opportunistic, carrion feeding, pack animal.


20 posted on 02/25/2009 4:21:31 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t think Palin should have given the response but Jindal is a lightweight. If you thought Sarah wasn’t ready, Jindal is a first class ticket to loserville for the Republicans in 2012.


21 posted on 02/25/2009 4:29:06 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great review of Jindal tonight

http://www.youtube.com/v/wROwWvq6zvw


22 posted on 02/25/2009 4:48:23 AM PST by CodySuperior
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy’s a liberal attempting to drive a wedge between Jindal supporters and Palin supporters, that’s all.

As for Jindal’s speech, he proved that he is no real threat to Palin in 2012. Nice guy, smart guy, but little in the way of personality, and ability to really connect with people. I don’t see him being able to reaise the kind of serious money that would be needed in 2012, or the number of volunteers.


23 posted on 02/25/2009 5:02:59 AM PST by euram
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To: Philo-Junius
An agent provocateur attempt to pass as one of a group to which he doesn’t belong. Tobolowsky says up front he’s not one of us.

Sure, of course, I was imprecise with my 'agent provocateur' remark.

Tobolowsky sure isn't one of us, something thought I was pretty clear about. Yet, some seem to have thought he was.

24 posted on 02/25/2009 5:38:46 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Hatteras
"Didn’t think Palin should have given the response but Jindal is a lightweight."

Bullbleep. Jindal is the real deal. More quialified to actually BE president than anyone who has run for the office since Dwight Eisenhower. "Lightweight" my ass. Look up his record.

25 posted on 02/25/2009 6:36:58 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"More quialified to actually BE president than anyone who has run for the office since Dwight Eisenhower."

More qualified to actually BE president than anyone who has run for the office since Dwight Eisenhower? And just what are this 37 year-old's qualifications that set him above anybody else since Eisenhower?....

26 posted on 02/25/2009 6:43:03 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras
"And just what are this 37 year-old's qualifications that set him above anybody else since Eisenhower?...."

A record of accomplishment in government positions unmatched by anybody in public office today, or that has run for president in my "voting lifetime"(1968-2009). Cheez, look up his record on Wikipedia. As liberal as that site is, they can't deny all that he has done.

27 posted on 02/25/2009 7:44:56 AM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is very demeaning to Palin and thus loses points in my view. I like Sarah. She gets the base jumpin’. I also like Jindal. He’s got obvious intellectual weight to handle the job of POTUS. There is no reason to tear down one possible candidate though, in order to make another seem better by comparison.

That is the kind of garbage that liberals do.


28 posted on 02/25/2009 10:33:12 AM PST by Grunthor (All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“You’d have to suppose that they exist but weren’t scared enough of Obama to come out for McCain even WITH Sarah Palin.”

Or you would have to understand just how hated McCain is by conservatives.


29 posted on 02/25/2009 10:38:34 AM PST by Grunthor (All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it.)
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To: CodySuperior

30 posted on 02/25/2009 4:32:19 PM PST by 50mm (My respect for zero has reached zero)
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