Conservatives: Would you vote for this man for President?

[MadIsh32]

Here goes: This presidential candidate talks pro-life, but has a mixed record on abortion, including passing legislation as governor removing restrictions on abortion. In addition, the person he wants as VP is outspoken in his support of pro-choice, warning against candidates who would throw women back into back alley clinics. He talks about Christian faith, but also openly admits he very rarely goes to church. He has been a supporter of 2nd amendment rights, but also openly endorsed the Brady Bill. He wants to balance the budget partly by tax cuts, but mostly by cutting spending back to around 19% OF GDP (roughly what it was back in the 60s). He also wants a committee to oversee and review gov't regulations, and either repeal, scale back, or allow regulations based on cost benefit analyses.

[MadIsh32]

Of course there is a catch to all of this. That would take the fun out of it

This is just a simple statement of selected facts about a candidate. Clearly not an overall picture, but all factually correct

[PGR88]

Couldn’t have been Reagan - Reagan and James Brady were shot at the same time, and anything after that would not have been “voted on” by President Reagan. Brady Bill did not pass into law until 1993

[mnehring]

It is a flawed argument. before Reagan, the recent ‘Conservative’ presidential standards we had to compare it to where Nixon and Ford, which, by comparison, was a drastic shift to the right. Now we have Reagan as a standard to compare Conservative presidents to, so we build on that.

[MadIsh32]

Agree that Reagan was never in favor of abortion. He had statements saying that which are quite easy to dig up

HOWEVER, despite that his record in CA did show some wiggle room on the issue

[Patrick1]

Cheney isn’t going to run and I will have to wait and see on Palin’s ability to overcome the liberal media onslaught that is trying to make her into Dan Quayle. Reagan destroyed the liberal media, the same will be required of Palin, I hope you are right.

[cripplecreek]

What’s the point of this thread?

I'm guessing its a means of opening a conversation on the great merits of "moderates" but the poster didn't count on questions.

[MadIsh32]

To see if our greatest President in our lifetime would be subject to and fail the litmus tests we give candidates today

My reaction when I first saw this was the gun legislation would worry me a bit, but the spending plan I liked. Spending is more important to me then 2A issues

[mnehring]

Why do I smell a Romney plug coming?

[cripplecreek]

I was thinking the same thing.

[proudpapa]

If he was running against a guy named Carter or Mondale, then Yes, I’d crawl over broken glass to vote for him.

[Josh Painter]

Who’s he running against?

- JP

[MadIsh32]

Not the great “merits” of moderates

Believe me, I despise “moderates” When you have moderates you end up with fiscal moderates more then social moderates

However, I just think we need to re-evaluate where we put our litmus tests. Clearly its not on spending/economic issues or else W never would have been our nominee (compassionate conservatism was a red flag for me)

[Leisler]

You left out union member that took on the very powerful communist faction with in his own guild, of which he was elected President.

Also he volunteered and started officer training around 1936.

He also, later in his career, in as much as he saw it, fought, hard, for what he believed in.

None of which applies to Mitt Romney who never served, wouldn’t even go on a limb to fight for a Republican county judge, and doesn’t seem to believe in anything except expediency and checkbooks.

[MadIsh32]

Eww, gag.

For the record my 2 guys right now for 2012 are Sanford or Gary Johnson

More so with Sanford as there are some items that Gary Johnson is in support of which are unrealistic

[4Speed]

This crystal ball stuff.....Presdential considerations are 3 yrs in the future and no one is in the field.......Today....We have the 2010 congressionals on the immediate horizon.

[MadIsh32]

How on earth are people concluding I am a Romney supporter?

[Lee'sGhost]

Or Obama.

[Pistolshot]

This Cheney has what it takes.

[conservativeharleyguy]

"...This presidential candidate talks pro-life, but has a mixed record on abortion, including passing legislation as governor removing restrictions on abortion. In addition, the person he wants as VP is outspoken in his support of pro-choice, warning against candidates who would throw women back into back alley clinics..."

I know in my heart and soul that abortion is murder, but as long as the overwhelming preponderance of those having abortions are leftists/liberals/Democrats, or their surrogates/constituents, and my other issues are adequately supported, it's one compromise I'll reluctantly make when I vote. They'll eventually abort themselves out of existence.

(Flame-war begins in 5.... 4.... 3.... 2.... )

[China Clipper]

•you mean.. -A man whohas a “reverend and mentor” who GD’s America...
- A wife who has never been “proud” of America...
- A man who runs on transparency – then seals his college records - to prove it...
- A man who claims citizenship – then hires a team of lawyers - to secure it...
- A man who would attempt to destroy another life – simply for asking a question he should have answered...
- A man who campaigns on eight years of runaway spending and a deficit – then quadruples it in less than 100 days...
- A man who bans lobbyist – then attempts to hire one...
- A man who condemns cheats and dishonesty – then appoints one to run the treasury...
- A man who vows to find all of the tax cheats in this country – but fails to turn around and confront one...
- A man who has never held a job – but the most important one in the world...
- A man who feels hard work should pay – for those who choose not to work…
- A man who’s ability to speak – is dictated by his ability to read….
- A man who feels government can solve the problems it faces – while addressing everything but the problems it created…
- A man who signs a contract – but does not read it....
- A man who runs a government – the opposite way he runs his home…
- A man who preaches “equality for all” – then targets 5% unequally...
- A man who pledges to reduce the tax for 95% - then raises them for 100%...
- A man who feels all have the right to own a home – even if they can not pay for it….
- A man who speaks of responsible behavior – then throws a party every Wednesday night....
- A man who tells me to show fiscal responsibility – then borrows and spends money he doesn’t have....
- A man who loans my money to a bank – then refuses to allow that bank to repay me my money....
- A man who loans my money to a car company – then gives majority ownership to the autoworkers union who bankrupted it...
- A man who supports failure “in” this country – while promoting failure “of” this country...
- A man who speaks of practical solutions – using impractical methods…
- A man who shows me nothing for my money that he spent – and tells me it’s “my patriotic duty” to give him more...
- A man who has never run a business – but would like to tell me how to run mine...
- A man who would operates the highest office in the land – similar to the way the mafia operates the lowest...
- A man who pledges allegiance to the constitution – then null and voids a perfectly legal contract protected by it...
- A man who follows the belief that upholding the immigration laws of America – is unpatriotic and un-American...
- A man who turns his back on this countries friends – while embracing this countries sworn enemies...
- A man who is willing to provided for those who attacked this country – while degrading those trying to defend it...
- A man who would even think of not providing for this countries fallen – after his order fell them...
- A man who “voices” free choice – then systematically seeks to silence the voiceless...
- A man who pleads for Gods blessing of America – then destroys the greatest gift ever given to it....

Are you talking about THAT man?????