Posted on 05/23/2009 4:29:05 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
- Ex-Gov. George Pataki is at the top of national Republicans' wish list to take on Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand at the polls next fall.
"In New York there's sort of a short list," said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who is in charge of recruiting and coordinating the GOP's Senate campaigns.
"I've talked to Gov. Pataki about it, but I don't know what he will decide," Cornyn, tasked with reversing the tide of Democratic Senate victories the past two elections, told reporters over breakfast.
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Yawn, typical Republicans...they need to be talked into running. Step up and take back control...
Man, when is the GOP going to get tired of running retreads? I can’t stand it when the Republican Party pulls crap like this - automatically anointing someone from the outset without giving anyone else a chance. No disrespect to Pataki, who’s as good as it’s going to get, but there’s gotta be a conservative somewhere in NY.
This is the Onion, right?
Pataki!!?
There comes a time to stand pat and fight the good fight (Charlie Crist vs. Marco Rubio in Florida). Also, there is a time to cut your losses and and choose a portion of something over a lot of nothing. The New York Senate race falls under the latter catagory.
Same old recycled news story. :)
Pataki is another liberal and 2nd amendment hater. We don’t need any more RINOs trashing the bill of rights!
The hacks who control the checkbook in the GOP say conservatives can’t win. One more bit of evidence that they’re putting that belief into action.
Read posting #5.
We have to be realistic. Besides, dems would not run Pelosi in Tennessee either.
Pataki is decent guy and proven tax-cutting conservative and leader. I listened some of his speeches when he was considering running (for POTUS). I was truly impressed. I don’t know too much about his stance on 2A but I’m pretty sure he is reliable ally there.
In New York, Guliani and Pataki are best GOP can dream of. Both would have some chance of winning. I hope one of them will run. If GOP has some unknown name (without several billions in bank) we have zero chance of winning. I don’t know about you, but I like winning more than losing.
Also, not sure what is wrong with “retreads”. Reagan was pretty successful retread.
Sounds a like RINO v. RINO primary, Pataki & King so far. Are any conservatives expressing interest?
Being pragmatic, Pataki would be a good pick in ‘10.
Just like a Kennedy can not win in Arkansas, a DeMint type will never win in the northeast. Those are the facts.
We can go hardline and be a minority party for decades or we can allow fiscal cons/social moderates to run in the northeast, win the majority. And stop the Obama train wreck.
That’s how the Dems, I hate to say it, have won their seats and kept them. They usually throw out a blue dog in a conservative area, hold that district for decades and flip it totally blue.
We need to do the opposite. We might have to run gypsy moths in the NE and Midwest and hope to shift the country rightward that way. Steele may have been right. We might have to reach out to the mods and start making inroads towards them and then shift them to the right with our big guns in the presidential elections.
The Democrats ran several pro-life, pro-gun candidates in conservative constituancies, and those candidates didn’t make the Democrat Party more conservative. By the same token, running moderate Republicans in liberal constituancies won’t make the Republican Party more liberal.
Exactly.
Montana is the perfect example. Solid red state. Guaranteed GOP electoral votes. Yet allowed the conservative Dem Max Baucus to stay in power for decades as a balance. He didn’t scare them too much so they snuck in the fraud Tester. And bam... Obama wins the state 2 years later.
As you said, they flipped it “totally blue” drip by drip.
I wish we had Pataki for a Senator rather than DiFi and Babs Botoxer, the Lib Dems.
Greg Ball is a qualified true conservative who is running in New York. And I bet he wins.
http://www.ball4ny.com/index.aspx
I bet he wins because he is running for a seat that he is capable of winning. House seat #19. Westchester area.
“fiscal cons/social moderate”
like Rob Simmons of CT (ex-congressman)?
he was fiscal conservative, social leftist, Bush loyalist in a district that wanted a fiscal moderate/cons, social moderate, non-party-loyalist. He was endorsed by NARAL. How does that make him moderate?
Do you REALLY think that a solid conservative would win in NY?
Obama strong-armed Gillibrand’s potential primary foes out of the way.
Given the right circumstances. But you always have a liberal establishment hell-bent on kneecapping Conservatives while ignoring their own ideology is shrinking the party to complete morbidity. There’s no need for two major liberal parties to exist.
I’m no fan of Pataki, but if he wants to take a shot, fine. It’s a different story if we had a large farm team to choose from, but in NY, we don’t.
“I’m no fan of Pataki, but if he wants to take a shot, fine. It’s a different story if we had a large farm team to choose from, but in NY, we don’t.”
Very well-put, DJ. I think that Pataki would be a more conservative Senator than his detractors expect.
In CT in ‘08, one of these conservative/moderates ran for Congress (Capiello) and he started to generate support from local conservatives who viewed him as a reasonable Republican. His first week on the trail, he walked around a fair ground, telling voters he even defied his own party by voting in favor of civil unions for gays.
His support with grassroots conservatives began to dry up. And the “moderates” did not show up to do the organizing. (Has anyone ever seen these “moderates” that do political organizing?)
So that is the problem: if Pataki “proves” his moderation to the general public by badmouthing various constituencies in the GOP .... I hope he has thought it through ... that flawed strategy that is.
Reminds me of Lamar! in my own state. He drew a nobody challenger (despite having been the former State Dem Chairman) and had a prime opportunity to move well to the right... but what did he do ? He pandered to the Democrat left in his campaign ads, this in a state where the False Messiah had one of his worst performances ! I ended up casting a vote for a candidate who simply ran as “None of the above.” I’ve absolutely had it with these liberal twits in both parties. If Lamar! was so anxious to pander to Democrats, he should run as one.
We need a new party.
George Pataki’s first two terms as Governor were fairly conservative. Unfortunately, he moved to the left in office starting around 2003, after winning a third term. Voters were sick of him when he left office in 2006. But now he looks great, because of the two men who have succeeded him as governor. And compared to them, he is.
I hope he learned from his mistakes.
Thanks. I fully agree... A conservative wouldn’t get 40% statewide in NY... A staunch conservative (someome that would get beyond most FReepers’ definition of RINO) wouldn’t get 25%... Get real folks.
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