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VPC-Concealed Gun Permit Holders Kill 7 Police 44 Citizens in 2 yrs, nothing about armed criminals
Violence Policy Center ^ | July 20, 2009 | VPC

Posted on 07/20/2009 8:52:51 PM PDT by bintenn

Concealed Handgun Permit Holders Kill 7 Police, 44 Private Citizens Over Two-Year Period

31 Incidents Result in Criminal Charges or Suicide of Concealed Handgun Permit Holder

Washington, DC--Concealed handgun permit holders killed at least seven police officers and 44 private citizens in 31 incidents during the period May 2007 through April 2009 according to a new study (http://www.vpc.org/studies/ccw2009.pdf) released today by the Violence Policy Center (VPC). The release of the study comes as the U.S. Senate is expected to take up today--Monday, July 20--an amendment to the defense authorization bill (S. 1390) that would create a de facto national concealed carry system, overriding the rights of states with more restrictive laws governing the carrying of concealed handguns. The amendment is sponsored by Senator John Thune (R-SD). Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) has said he will filibuster the amendment.

Because most state systems allowing the carrying of concealed handguns in public by private citizens release little data about crimes committed by permit holders, the VPC reviewed shooting incidents as reported by news outlets. It is likely that the actual number of fatal criminal incidents involving concealed handgun permit holders is far higher.

The study, Law Enforcement and Private Citizens Killed by Concealed Handgun Permit Holders--An Analysis of News Reports, May 2007 to April 2009, finds that during the two-year period reviewed--

* Concealed handgun permit holders have slain seven law enforcement officers resulting in criminal charges or the suicide of the shooter. All of the killings were committed with guns. An additional three law enforcement officers were injured in these incidents.

* Concealed handgun permit holders have slain at least 44 private citizens resulting in criminal charges or the suicide of the shooter. All but one of the killings were committed with guns. An additional six private citizens were injured in these incidents.

* In six of the 31 incidents (19 percent), the concealed handgun permit holder killed himself, bringing the total fatality count to 57.

VPC Legislative Director Kristen Rand states, “State concealed handgun systems are arming cop-killers and other murderers. It is beyond irrational for Congress to vote to expand the reach of these deadly laws.”

The study offers detailed descriptions of the 31 incidents, which occurred in 15 states. Law enforcement officers were killed in: Florida, Idaho, Ohio (two incidents), and Pennsylvania (two incidents). Private citizens were killed in: Alabama, Colorado, Florida (nine incidents), Idaho, Kentucky, Minnesota, New York, North Carolina (two incidents), Ohio (three incidents), Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Utah (two incidents), and Virginia.


TOPICS: State and Local
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; hpc; killings; liberalfascism
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1 posted on 07/20/2009 8:52:54 PM PDT by bintenn
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To: bintenn

DU had a field day with is earlier today. Amazingly 75% of them agreed with us.


2 posted on 07/20/2009 8:55:20 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: bintenn

So let’s post a list of organizations for the various states here.

Rocky Mountain Gun Owners
Colorado’s No-Compromise Gun Rights Organization
http://www.rmgo.org/


3 posted on 07/20/2009 8:56:47 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: bintenn

I notice you’re new here at FR.

Why are you posting this without comment?


4 posted on 07/20/2009 8:58:52 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: bintenn
WelcomeTo FreeRepublic!
5 posted on 07/20/2009 9:03:42 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR...Monthly Donors Wanted...I Upped My Monthly. Now, Up Yours.)
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To: stylin_geek

Blank profile page too!


6 posted on 07/20/2009 9:04:17 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: stylin_geek

Commented in the title “nothing about armed criminals”

...but, I think the article is stupid enough without me adding my comments to it.


7 posted on 07/20/2009 9:12:24 PM PDT by bintenn
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To: bintenn

What a typical piece of Horse Manure from VPC.


8 posted on 07/20/2009 9:12:58 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: bintenn

Wonder how many cops and private citizens were killed by CRIMINALS in the same time period?


9 posted on 07/20/2009 9:15:44 PM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

OK, I have updated my profile and included my email. If you would like to come down to Tennessee, have a beer with me and talk politics, would love to have you ;)


10 posted on 07/20/2009 9:17:41 PM PDT by bintenn
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To: bintenn

Don’t get your knickers in a knot, we just need to make sure you aren’t another agent provocateur. We’ve had a few of those lately.


11 posted on 07/20/2009 9:21:39 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

AND, donated $20 dollars. Boy - you guys are serious.


12 posted on 07/20/2009 9:22:20 PM PDT by bintenn
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To: bintenn

Nothing about how many crimes were prevented by CCP holders, either, let alone how many CCP holders successfully defended their own lives and the lives of others.


13 posted on 07/20/2009 9:24:13 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bintenn

And, we thank you.

Boy, yes we are.


14 posted on 07/20/2009 9:27:13 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR...Monthly Donors Wanted...I Upped My Monthly. Now, Up Yours.)
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To: CholeraJoe; Slip18; sig226; Shooter 2.5; Manly Warrior; DaveLoneRanger; Eaker; P8riot; ...

This is the most idiotic argument VPC has used to date. According to them, laws to allow concealed carry don’t work because someone might get a carry permit and then commit a crime, but laws against concealed carry work because no one will get a concealed carry permit and therefore no one will commit a crime.

What a bunch of morons.


15 posted on 07/20/2009 9:34:02 PM PDT by sig226 (Real power is not the ability to destroy an enemy. It is the willingness to do it.)
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To: bintenn

I haven’t looked at this in detail yet, but the VPC is well known for putting out “studies” that are nothing more nor less than deliberate lies and propaganda. To say that their “studies” are crap is an unkindness to crap.

And that’s not a biased statement, it’s just the plain and simple truth. Lying with statistics is simply their routine mode of operation.


16 posted on 07/20/2009 9:44:50 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: sig226
It isn't about stopping criminal behavior, it is about criminalizing behavior by law abiding citizens, as a means to increase governmental power over the people. Keep reminding yourself of that fact and it helps sort out all these maunderings regarding CCP or ATF over State laws, etc.

Regardless of Randy Weaver's possible criminal status, his wife was in no way a criminal, yet the government authorized gunning her down then later gave themselves absolution. Regardless of the criminality of the Waco compound of Koresh, the government slaughter the opposition complete with children rather than deal with the vagaries of the legal scrum. The government is all powerful when the SCOTUS refuses to uphold their oaths to the Constitution, as they have shwon in numerous modern era cases, like Roe v Wade. The federal black-robed oligarchs can creat penumbras if they cannot twist the constitutional wording.

17 posted on 07/20/2009 9:48:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: bintenn
welcome to the neighborhood...

now all you need is the secret handshake and a FR decoder ring...

18 posted on 07/20/2009 9:48:32 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: bintenn

Apparently more cops are killed in vehicle accidents:

http://www.georgiainjurylawyerblog.com/2009/07/2009_increase_in_number_of_pol.html

If 35 were killed, the number of killings by concealed carry seem very high.

parsy, who is suspicious


19 posted on 07/20/2009 10:04:25 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: parsifal

A better link:

http://www.odmp.org/year.php

parsy, who’s attennae are twitching


20 posted on 07/20/2009 10:07:59 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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