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Could and Shoulda....Where do "Fredheads" go now?
Youtube.com ^ | 8/24/2009 | Brewferr

Posted on 08/24/2009 12:38:35 PM PDT by brewferr

So here we were in 2007 worrying about who would take the Reagan "mantle of conservatism" forward. John McCain, Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Duncan Hunter, Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul and others were already in the race to become the next GOP nominee for president. And you know what? Conservatives were freaking out! Was this really the crop we had to choose from? None of these guys, with the exception of maybe Duncan Hunter or to an extent Ron Paul, really understood what conservatism was.

Then a grassroots draft campaign was initiated to bring someone into the race that really understood American exceptionalism. That individual was the former U.S. Senator from Tennessee - Fred Thompson. In Fred Thompson, conservatives had a real candidate to back. Thompson understood that government should be limited so that it could not tread on our natural God-given rights. He was a champion of low taxes, free-enterprise, traditional American social values, and a strong national defense. It just made sense to back Thompson.

So, in late 2007, Senator Thompson entered the race to become the next president. However, his campaign was attacked by the left-wing media and the other GOP presidential campaigns from the beginning. They accused Thompson of being "lazy like a fox", too radical, too old, etc. These ideas sank in and the Thompson campaigned left the field in early 2008.

That being said, McCain became the next GOP nominee. Conservatives felt betrayed until a little-known governor from Alaska, Sarah Palin came along. She electrified the base and undoubtedly gave the McCain campaign a much needed boost.

Fredheads, where do we go from here? Is Sarah Palin in fact the next person to bear the "mantle of Reagan"? I believe that she will be a force to be reckoned with in the future, but I still hold onto the hope that Senator Fred Thompson will one day be president.

In 1976, Governor Ronald Reagan decided to challenge a sitting president of his party for the GOP nomination. Reagan was repeatedly accused of being lazy, too old, and too radical. Those ideas sank in and Reagan narrowly lost the nomination to Gerald Ford that year. However, Ronald Reagan's campaign wasn't over. He would return in 1980, win the GOP nomination, and lead America into the largest peacetime economic expansion in recent years.

Even with the conservative Sarah Palin in the fray, I believe that there is still a role for Fred Thompson to play. We've pulled him out of political retirement before, and I believe that we can do it again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeVi2KF7hA4


TOPICS: Tennessee; Campaign News; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: conservative; duncanwho; election2012; fred; fredthompson; mccainsbuttboy; mittbots; moderateatbest; notconservative; onlyconservativein08; palin; paultards; presidentialelection; thompson
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1 posted on 08/24/2009 12:38:35 PM PDT by brewferr
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To: brewferr

Have heard Fred’s wife speak up for Palin.
From what I have heard from Fred especially over the past year and a half, his views are much in line with Palin’s.


2 posted on 08/24/2009 12:42:05 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

Personally, I believe that if Thompson decided to not run for president again, he would be an excellent choice for Palin as VP.


3 posted on 08/24/2009 12:43:42 PM PDT by brewferr
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To: brewferr

If we must “pull him out of retirement” then the necessary spirit is not in him and he will win no office. Reagan was not ‘pulled out of retirement.’ Reagan continued to work at it until he got it.Thompson is not the man. He can change that but we cannot.


4 posted on 08/24/2009 12:44:40 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: brewferr

That’s a pretty good team right there!


5 posted on 08/24/2009 12:44:43 PM PDT by frogjerk (Obama Administration: Security thru Absurdity)
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To: brewferr

Sarah Palin. No ifs, ands or buts.


6 posted on 08/24/2009 12:45:02 PM PDT by bcsco (How's that hopey-changey thing going?)
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To: brewferr

One word....SARAH!


7 posted on 08/24/2009 12:45:38 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: brewferr

Saks?


8 posted on 08/24/2009 12:45:47 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: brewferr

After hearing Fred clear his throat 571,576,751 times during his speech at the RNC convention I don’t think he would be a good idea for anybody.

Right now I’m softly supporting Jim DeMint. Things could change.


9 posted on 08/24/2009 12:46:13 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: brewferr

That would be a great team.


10 posted on 08/24/2009 12:47:44 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: brewferr

We’d have to wake him up, wouldn’t we?


11 posted on 08/24/2009 12:48:57 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: brewferr

Fred Thompson could be Sarah Palin’s Dick Cheney.


12 posted on 08/24/2009 12:50:33 PM PDT by McGruff (I have great health insurance and so does every member of Congress - Obama)
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To: Artemis Webb

“After hearing Fred clear his throat 571,576,751 times during his speech at the RNC convention”

Yea, you’re right, we need somebody like Obama.


13 posted on 08/24/2009 12:51:26 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: ClearCase_guy

Fred is wide-awake. Reagan got caught falling asleep in cabinet meetings and accused of the same things.


14 posted on 08/24/2009 12:51:57 PM PDT by brewferr
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To: traderrob6
"Yea, you’re right, we need somebody like Obama."

Try not to be an idiot. I know it's going to be a strain, but try.

If the presentation of The Message gets in the way of The Message then The Message gets lost or at least muted. Work your brain as hard as you can. Don't hurt yourself. Just try to understand.

15 posted on 08/24/2009 12:55:54 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: brewferr
Conservatives felt betrayed until a little-known governor from Alaska, Sarah Palin came along.

This statement is crap. Sarah Palin did not "come along". She was plucked from obscurity and put on the national stage by JOHN MCCAIN. And after she was picked by JOHN MCCAIN, some conservatives still felt betrayed.

ALWAYS REMEMBER

SARAH WAS PICKED BY JOHN MCCAIN.

16 posted on 08/24/2009 1:00:37 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: brewferr

Fred might be a good alternative if SP decides not to run and it would otherwise be a choice between Slick Willard and the Huckster. But, if that were the case a person w/more fire in the belly will have likely jumped in.


17 posted on 08/24/2009 1:01:19 PM PDT by Lou Budvis (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: Artemis Webb

Try to refrain from name calling. Your message and YOUR presentation might carry a lot more weight.


18 posted on 08/24/2009 1:05:00 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: brewferr

Fred! (who was my candidate of choice) reminded (reminds?) me of a southern McKinley, except for the winning-the-election part: He hated campaigning even more than most candidates do, and thus, well, didn’t campaign as much as his rivals did. Pity, perhaps. But I still admire him.


19 posted on 08/24/2009 1:07:36 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Lou Budvis

I like the “Palin/Bachmann ‘12” tag. Bachmann has been on fire lately and at the same time attacked like crazy. If the lefties are attacking her like crazy that means she must be doing something right.


20 posted on 08/24/2009 1:07:38 PM PDT by brewferr
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To: traderrob6

I didn’t call you a name. I said to try not to be an idiot. Granted that’s pretty darn close to calling you a name but if you’re going to show your lack of understanding with uninformed sarcasm then you get what you deserve.


21 posted on 08/24/2009 1:08:17 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Artemis Webb

Uniformed? Au contraire.


22 posted on 08/24/2009 1:13:45 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Artemis Webb

BTW, you wouldn’t happen to be a Mittophile would you?


23 posted on 08/24/2009 1:15:14 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Artemis Webb
I didn’t call you a name. I said to try not to be an idiot.

Jeez. You sound like Bill Clinton. I guess it depends upon what the meaning of idiot is.

24 posted on 08/24/2009 1:18:21 PM PDT by McGruff (I have great health insurance and so does every member of Congress - Obama)
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To: brewferr; jellybean

I was going for a Thompson / Palin ticket before McCain was even in the hunt....how about a cabinet spot for FRed or a SupremeCourt appt??


25 posted on 08/24/2009 1:19:06 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: traderrob6
"Uniformed? Au contraire."

"BTW, you wouldn’t happen to be a Mittophile would you?"

Now please refer up to post #9 where I said I was supporting Jim DeMint and tell you that you are not uniformed again.

26 posted on 08/24/2009 1:23:43 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: FlashBack

Fred on the SCOTUS? Wow. Wouldn’t that be nice.


27 posted on 08/24/2009 1:27:49 PM PDT by brewferr
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To: brewferr; Politicalmom; girlangler; KoRn; Shortstop7; Lunatic Fringe; Darnright; babygene; ...

28 posted on 08/24/2009 1:28:57 PM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: brewferr
Two names come to mind.

Sarah Palin

Liz Cheney.

29 posted on 08/24/2009 1:31:46 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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To: jellybean
thanks, for the information / thread / post.
please place me on the list. thx.

30 posted on 08/24/2009 1:34:32 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: brewferr
Go?

Already went....

Sarah.

31 posted on 08/24/2009 1:36:26 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: brewferr

Where do Fredheads go from here?

Hmmmm.....

Some choices:

Jim DeMint
Sarah Palin
Mike Pence
(I’m going to get pilloried for this) Rick Perry
J.D. Hayworth

People we need to cultivate for future leadership:

Marco Rubio
Pat Toomey (despite the Sotomayor foulup)
Tom McClintock
Michelle Bachmann


32 posted on 08/24/2009 1:36:57 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Artemis Webb

“Now please refer up to post #9 where I said I was supporting Jim DeMint”

I like JD a lot but the last I checked he hasn’t even hinted at running.


33 posted on 08/24/2009 1:37:22 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: brewferr

We could always do worse.....oh wait......


34 posted on 08/24/2009 1:39:53 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: traderrob6

True.
Time will tell.


35 posted on 08/24/2009 1:41:33 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: brewferr; FlashBack

I’m a Fredhead myself, but we should be naming Supreme Court Justices in their 40s or early 50s.


36 posted on 08/24/2009 1:42:37 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Fred Thompson appears human-sized because he is actually standing a million miles away.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

If they’re as conservative as FRed...sure!
How about Fred as Sec. Of State???


37 posted on 08/24/2009 1:44:00 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: Artemis Webb
"Right now I’m softly supporting Jim DeMint. Things could change."

As a Fredhead, I was disappointed at his torpid approach to the campaign. He won't be our candidate in 2012; for one thing, he'll be too damned old, and his health is not the best. The good news: We have more depth to our bench than we think we do. Palin, DeMint, Jindal, Cantor... Compare to the DemocRats' sorry situation. If Obama continues at his current pace, he'll be a non-starter for re-election. Who then? That clown Biden? Hollerin' Howard Dean? John Edwards? (just kidding) ...really, their bench is quite thin. Obama is increasingly looking like a flash in the pan.

Our challenge is to knock the golden-tongued RINOs out of the primary race early. Romney and Huckabee, for example. There is a place for these gentlemen, just not behind the Oval Office desk.
38 posted on 08/24/2009 1:44:09 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (I love my country, but I fear it, for it does not love me.)
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To: staytrue

That is about the only good thing he has ever done.


39 posted on 08/24/2009 1:44:35 PM PDT by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Let’s “pull” Duncan Hunter with Sarah - what a team!


40 posted on 08/24/2009 1:45:06 PM PDT by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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To: brewferr; pissant; Calpernia; RasterMaster

“None of these guys, with the exception of maybe Duncan Hunter or to an extent Ron Paul, really understood what conservatism was.”

The others still don’t.


41 posted on 08/24/2009 1:45:09 PM PDT by AuntB (First the government cripples you, then it tries to sell you a crutch!)
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To: staytrue
" ALWAYS REMEMBER SARAH WAS PICKED BY JOHN MCCAIN."

The truism about blind pigs and truffles comes to mind. Or the one about stopped clocks.

You're not going to get much McCain praise out of me, that much is certain. He's a fine human being--his tenderness towards Mo Udall in that fine man's last days attests to that--but he's a lousy Republican. Let's face it, if he'd been elected, we'd be bellowing in outrage way too often. Not as often as under the Obamanation, but way too often. This is an unfortunate truth.
42 posted on 08/24/2009 1:48:01 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (I love my country, but I fear it, for it does not love me.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"Tom McClintock"

Good guy, but no executive experience. And let's put it this way: if anyone needs a charisma transfusion more than Jindal, it's McClintock.
43 posted on 08/24/2009 1:50:48 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (I love my country, but I fear it, for it does not love me.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

You’re on the list. :)


44 posted on 08/24/2009 1:54:53 PM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: brewferr

I like Fred Thompson. However, other than the former-actor angle, I was never convinced of the Reagan linkage. Thompson’s politics seemed more Bob Dole than Ronald Reagan. In terms of politics: Thompson > McCain >>>>>>>>>>>>>Obama.


45 posted on 08/24/2009 2:11:45 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: jellybean

Sarah! no question, no doubts. No one else even comes close.


46 posted on 08/24/2009 2:18:07 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
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To: brewferr

I love Thompson — but none of the 2008 presidential candidates was able to unite the party. We need someone fresh.

So far, I like DeMint the best. However, that’s just an initial impression — I haven’t done in-depth research on anyone yet.

My number one priority is taking back Congress in 2010.


47 posted on 08/24/2009 2:21:38 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: brewferr; jimrob
Let us try, with a sober poker face, to play a game of good cop, bad cop for a couple of years.

Good Cop, Sarah
Bad Cop, Ron Paul

If any Pubbie comes to me with a “what about ... (Fill in the blank with a RINO - Romney, Huck, etc...)

Then we should say, “Well you know, Ron Paul had it right about the banking collapse. Being right about the most important issue of 2008 and more going forward should count for something... What is your strategy for getting out the Ron Paul independent vote?”

Now we play coy, making goo-goo eyes after our crazy old uncle Paul, the RINOs will continue to attack Paul, or suck up to him, whatever. Sarah can then just be Sarah, and they will not notice her new dress, or hair, or children.

Then after a year or two of this, we say, “OK, you win, You win, Ron Paul is not a nationally viable candidate, I guess I we will all have to support Sarah...”

48 posted on 08/24/2009 2:45:55 PM PDT by mission9 (It ain't bragging if you can do it.)
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To: jellybean
Thanks for the ping.

I would back Fred Thompson again in a heart beat.

I am very impressed with Sarah Palin, but I am not very certain she really is up to the job, at present. Perhaps in 2 more years.

But then again, since I haven't been a Republican for quite some time, it really isn't up to me is it? ;-)

49 posted on 08/24/2009 3:00:51 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: jellybean

Fred was my guy- he still is my favorite. He’s got the right stuff.


50 posted on 08/24/2009 3:14:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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