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Gary Johnson 2012?
Gary Johnson ^ | 29th August | Johnson2012

Posted on 08/28/2009 7:22:31 PM PDT by freepersunite

From January 1995 to December 2002, Gary Johnson served as the Governor of the State of New Mexico, and was the first governor in the history of New Mexico to be elected for two consecutive four year terms. He was ranked among the nation's seven top governors in each of the Cato Institute's fiscal report cards between 1996 and 2002. Under Gov. Johnson's administration, New Mexico experienced the longest period without a tax increase in the state's history, the rate of growth in the state government was cut in half, half of the state's prisons were privatized, state Medicaid was shifted to managed care, and the state was left with approximately one thousand fewer employees (with no firings) and a budget surplus. Gov. Johnson vetoed 750 bills (which was more than all the vetoes of the other 49 Governors in the country at that time, combined), which earned him the nickname Gary "Veto" Johnson.

Gov. Johnson is not only a conservative but he has a proven track record during his two terms in New Mexico of SHRINKING government, cutting budgets, reforming healthcare, introducing a voucher system for schools.

Sounds like a perfect candidate in 2012...

what say you, freepers?

There's a few issues like he says he is personally pro-choice but was endorsed by the right to life committee for his bans on partial-birth abortion and Medicaid-funded abortion which means he supports States on abortion.

He is also a Ron Paul fan and the only GOP Governor not to endorse George W. Bush which made him an outcast with the Establishment. I dont see that as a bad thing and would help him in an election against Obama. He's also libertarian on drugs, again though this isn't an issue as he would be support States rights.

SO on the balance I don't see how he isn't a bad candidate, much more appealing than Palin to a general electorate too and from his time in New Mexico shows he can win big in Democrat areas which will need to be cracked to take the Presidency off Obama and his organizing zombie like drones, no way would Palin do that.

He really does have a great record if you can see past his potential faults.


TOPICS: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2012; garyjohnson; johnson; johnson2012; lping; newmexico
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1 posted on 08/28/2009 7:22:31 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite

I thought you meant this Gary Johnson.

We could use another "actor" in the White House.

2 posted on 08/28/2009 7:24:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: freepersunite

Run, Gary run! I met him in 2000, thanked him for his stance & work on MJ legalization, along with everything he did for NM. We chatted for a while, and he went back to work. He was good for New Mexico. I would vote for him if he ran.


3 posted on 08/28/2009 7:24:28 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware

he says he’s potentially interested in a 2012 bid but obviously very early stages yet.


4 posted on 08/28/2009 7:25:25 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite
Funny that the only "comparison" candidate mentioned is Sarah (no last name needed)...

"(H)e is personally pro-choice"..."He's also libertarian on drugs"...

BYE!

5 posted on 08/28/2009 7:29:40 PM PDT by Longhair_and_Leather (Don't send a boy to do a man's job, send a woman--Sarah 2012!)
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To: Longhair_and_Leather; All

So???


6 posted on 08/28/2009 7:33:05 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: Longhair_and_Leather

Palin/Johnson 2012? Or perhaps Johnson/Palin 2012? The perfect ticket, either way, IMHO


7 posted on 08/28/2009 7:36:06 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Longhair_and_Leather

well who else is there? Romney is finished, Huckabee would never beat Obama and neither would Palin

on drugs Johnson supports States rights, an entirely constitutional and correct approach. on abortion he has been endorsed by right to life

Look at his record, he has a great record of actually shrinking government, cutting budgets etc. I.E WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN WASHINGTON and he can WIN. This is key, not his stance on a few issues. The US is going to be a mess by 2012 and someone with that record will be needed to clean it up. someone you know who can get the job done and has done so before, in a 2:1 Democrat state. He can beat Obama


8 posted on 08/28/2009 7:37:10 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite; LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; ...

PING to the NM list.


9 posted on 08/28/2009 7:37:16 PM PDT by CedarDave (Will Rogers on Death & Taxes: "Death doesn't get worse every time Congress meets")
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To: CedarDave

States rights libertarian/conservative.

We could do worse.

He was a good Governor.


10 posted on 08/28/2009 7:41:42 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: CedarDave

“He is a Ron Paul fan” Oh well, that means his position on the war against Islamo Fascism is the same as Obama.

Pass. Next candidate please.


11 posted on 08/28/2009 7:41:49 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: dware

I think Johnson is a superior candidate to Palin. while she has many fans I think she’d just do what McCain did and couldn’t win in the places that matter.

Johnson can beat Obama in Democrat states and carry the independents.


12 posted on 08/28/2009 7:41:57 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: CedarDave

“He’s also a libertarian on drugs”. Umm, you might want to rephrase that. I mean, I’ve known a lot of libertarians on drugs and I wouldn’t vote for any of them for President.


13 posted on 08/28/2009 7:43:42 PM PDT by liberlog
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To: liberlog

What’s the problem. This is our third president in a row who used cocaine.


14 posted on 08/28/2009 7:44:45 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: Patrick1

well, the US is bankrupt and can’t afford war anyway so what’s the problem... ?

Johnson bringing troops home from Afghanistan and Iraq will save the US trillions from the rapidly rising deficit. it will also guarantee electoral victory and Obama out on his ass. imagine when you see Johnson pledging to bring troops home, how will The One and all his anti-war liberal whackos run against that?


15 posted on 08/28/2009 7:45:10 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: liberlog

They’re all on drugs if you ask me. At least they seem to be once they get to D.C.


16 posted on 08/28/2009 7:45:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: freepersunite

Is that going to be his position? Bring the troops home?


17 posted on 08/28/2009 7:47:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: freepersunite

Nixon promised to end Vietnam war. anti-war Republicans are not new and it wins elections and will make Obama like a dumbass.


18 posted on 08/28/2009 7:47:37 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite

No problem as long as you want to stay in your house and not go into a skyscraper, fly overseas, go to work, go to a theatre, go to a football game, go to a cafe or go to church.


19 posted on 08/28/2009 7:47:42 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: TigersEye

i’m pretty sure he will want to do that, not for ideological reasons but probably more to save money and shrink the budgets.


20 posted on 08/28/2009 7:48:33 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: Patrick1

Wars are expensive. Nixon won pledging to end vietnam, a Republican can beat Obama by pledging to end Afghanistan and Iraq. It would split the democrats in half


21 posted on 08/28/2009 7:51:01 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: Patrick1

I would rather Johnson run on the Libertarian Party ticket and get his one percent than run on the GOP ticket and get his one percent.


22 posted on 08/28/2009 7:51:12 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: freepersunite

Why would I want a Republican to win who won’t defend the country, might as well keep the Messiah.


23 posted on 08/28/2009 7:53:23 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: freepersunite
I'm not necessarily against that myself at this point. If our troops have to fight with their hands tied behind their backs and two lawyers each they should probably come home.

If you're promoting Gary Johnson though you ought to know his positions or at least not speculate about them. That doesn't help him if you're wrong.

24 posted on 08/28/2009 7:53:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: freepersunite

The John McCains must be weeded out. We need a Ronald Reagan in 2012. If Gary Johnson fits the bill, good.


25 posted on 08/28/2009 7:59:36 PM PDT by unkus
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To: TigersEye

well maybe we need to do more research... what I do know is that he has a great record and he should run on that in a GOP primary


26 posted on 08/28/2009 7:59:53 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: CedarDave

Meh.

I could vote for him.
better him than McCain or any other RINO....
But he would be WAAAYY down on my list of preferences.


27 posted on 08/28/2009 8:03:22 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Patrick1

lol patrick do you think any president would not defend the country? they are SWORN to it

there are different degree’s of “defending” a country.

Would Johnson respond and defeat any enemy that attacks the United States? Yes. Would he invade other countries pre-emptively and fight endless wars on behalf of the war profiteers? No.

By the way, George W. Bush used to be against nation building. Search Youtube for “the George Bush you forgot”, it’s amazing how reasonable he sounds...


28 posted on 08/28/2009 8:04:06 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite

Agreed. Gary Johnson is a good man with a good record.


29 posted on 08/28/2009 8:08:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: LegendHasIt

the key for me is that not only is he someone you could vote for but he is someone democrats and independents can vote for and toss the messiah out where he belongs. If the messiah has to run against Palin or Romney, the swing voters will stick with Obama no matter how BAD he is he would win by default imo


30 posted on 08/28/2009 8:10:05 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite

I had the pleasure of meeting Gov. Johnson at my brother’s graduation at TVI (now CNM). He strikes me as the real deal, and if he is really interested in running, I’m on board. He was a darn good governor in NM, as well.

With the possible exception of Palin (the jury’s still out on her, IMO) ALL of the other widely mentioned candidates are frankly about as inspiring as Bob Dull. Romney: Gun grabbing socialist Masshole RINO. Huckleberry: TV preacher socialist RINO. Jeb: Another Bush, no thanks. Rooty Toots: Fuhgeddaboutit! Graham: HAHAHAHA! Right. Crist: HAHAHAH! OMG, yer killin’ me!

The Repubs had better get someone out in front who has a pair, and right now the only contenders I see are Palin, and possibly Johnson right now. I DON’T want another Dole/Clinton election. Obamugabe must be stopped.


31 posted on 08/28/2009 8:10:19 PM PDT by Mr. Rabbit (Health care is NOT a right - It's an individual's personal responsibility.)
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To: Mr. Rabbit

agreed 100%. I dont think Palin can win those blue states, you just know the media will p*ss all over her and she will flounder under scrutiny. Johnson would be a more formidable candidate and with his positions on certain issues would embarass Obama and completely undermine him


32 posted on 08/28/2009 8:16:49 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite

I see no evidence that Johnson like Paul or Obama would defend the nation if attacked. That is your characterization of the war against Islamo Fascism not mine.

We nominated a non-conservative last time we don’t need to make that same mistake again. Johnson should run on the Libertarian ticket so he can as a Republican who did defend the country once said “be placed on the ash heap of history.”


33 posted on 08/28/2009 8:17:57 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: unkus

Johnson has as much in common with Reagan as Obama.


34 posted on 08/28/2009 8:18:51 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: freepersunite

Ron Paul 2.0
(he can’t unite the conservatives, only splinter off the libertarians.)


35 posted on 08/28/2009 8:21:07 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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Patrick, take it from me he would defend the country... just not in your warped way. Like Nixon he would win on a pledge to end wars while Obama is defending them. I can already hear the Kos kids and left wing loons grinding their teeth.

besides, with trillion dollar deficts the wars have got to end sooner or later, at least will you not admit that. this massive military and deficit is not sustainable


36 posted on 08/28/2009 8:24:35 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite

I’m not sure Nixon is the example you want to take to the country. I understand your point of view. It is a libertarian one not a conservative one. There is a libertarian party he can run in and get one percent of the vote and join the political giants like Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Wayne Allan Root.

I will stay with the philosophy that destroyed the Soviet Union and prevented any further attacks by Islam since the left exposed us to attack in 2001.

I would do everything I could to prevent Gary Johnson from becoming the GOP nominee for President.


37 posted on 08/28/2009 8:29:38 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

unlike Ron Paul he is younger and a former governor with an appealing record..


38 posted on 08/28/2009 8:30:27 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite
Why do you automatically assume Sarah can't beat Hussein? If things are gonna be that bad then, how does he get reelected--unless you believe ACORN will have it rigged? It would be an "Anybody but Hussein" election.

There will be at least 10 debates before the primaries. That's where the contenders will pull away from the pretenders, and that's Sarah's playing field. She will show why she is our Reagan to Hussein's Carter. If Gary Johnson can make a name for himself there, more power to him. But Sarah will show why she is THE conservative to win the thing. Enough with the "non-social conservatives" in the Republican party who can't take a principled and constitutional stand on the issues. Those kind will never again get my vote, or my wife's.

39 posted on 08/28/2009 8:31:05 PM PDT by Longhair_and_Leather (Don't send a boy to do a man's job, send a woman--Sarah 2012!)
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To: Patrick1

“since 2001” but you forget who was President in 2001 and who gave the Norad stand down orders months earlier and who really left NYC exposed on that fateful day


40 posted on 08/28/2009 8:31:57 PM PDT by freepersunite
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To: freepersunite

Well, this is all for entertainment purposes only since Gary Johnson has as much a chance of being President as Alan Keyes.

But I can give you helpful advice. You will not become the GOP nominee by bashing Bush on the war against Islamo Fascism.


41 posted on 08/28/2009 8:35:12 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: Patrick1

Johnson has as much in common with Reagan as Obama.
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Adios, Gary Johnson!


42 posted on 08/28/2009 8:37:50 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Patrick1

Bush is a big government conservative and his record will look even worse as the years go on. I can’t believe Bush supporters say he prevented terror attacks since 2001, right after the worst terrorist incident the world has ever seen on his watch and with NORAD told to sit in a hangar while planes were allowed to freely smash into buildings.

anyway, no one is going to bash Bush in a primary and I agree it’s not a good way to win for any candidate


43 posted on 08/28/2009 8:39:48 PM PDT by freepersunite
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Oh well, that means his position on the war against Islamo Fascism is the same as Obama.

Obama is more pro-war than Bush on Afghanistan. Have you been following the news???? Obama has sent MORE troops into the Afghan quagmire. Ron Paul, by contrast, opposes Obama's Afghan policy. If you want more troops to be sent there, you are pro-Obama on that issue.

44 posted on 08/28/2009 8:44:37 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Patrick1

Haha! He still has a better chance than RINO Romney or any of the other “go along to get along” losers.


45 posted on 08/28/2009 8:45:59 PM PDT by Mr. Rabbit (Health care is NOT a right - It's an individual's personal responsibility.)
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To: freepersunite
I can’t believe Bush supporters say he prevented terror attacks since 2001

By their own standards, those who make the claim should also then take the position that Clinton "prevented" domestic terror attacks between the first attack on the twin towers in 1993 and the end of his second term (thus equalling Bush's record). Of course, since logic and consistency mean nothing to them, they won't.

46 posted on 08/28/2009 8:47:28 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Mr. Rabbit

At least Billy Kristol isn’t one of Johnson’s biggest fans. The fact that he loves Sarah should make anyone suspicious.


47 posted on 08/28/2009 8:48:52 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: freepersunite
Folks who have at their base the philosophy of non-aggression who are okie dokie with the utmost aggression against the weakest among us are confused at best and hypocritical clowns when not given the benefit of the doubt.

In either case I won't be voting for him or anybody like him. Dr Paul, who I disagree with vehmently on foreign policy, is at least consistent in his views. Governor Johnson? Not even close.

48 posted on 08/28/2009 8:49:11 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (CommieCare: Need a Stent, Take a Red Pill. Next!)
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To: Mr. Rabbit

I’m no Romney fan but do you think this unknown libertarian would do better in a GOP primary than Romney? You folks are drinking Ron Paul kool-aid again.


49 posted on 08/28/2009 8:51:13 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm not calling in sick; I'm calling in gone!)
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To: Patrick1

Unknown libertarian? Johnson was a very popular governor who, unlike Mitt, could have actually been elected again.


50 posted on 08/28/2009 8:52:52 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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