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GOP Lawmakers: Hoeven ‘realistic’ On Senate Race
WKRG.com ^ | November 1, 2009

Posted on 11/05/2009 7:36:10 PM PST by Clintonfatigued

North Dakota Republican state legislators and officials have had no better luck than anyone else in prodding Gov. John Hoeven for hints about whether he'll run against Democratic Sen. Byron Dorgan next year.

Four GOP lawmakers who raised the subject in a meeting with Hoeven in his Capitol office last week said the governor gave them no hints about his plans, although one participant said he believes Hoeven will make the race.

"I think he feels a responsibility to do it," said Rep. Craig Headland, R-Montpelier. "Maybe I'm a little optimistic in my thinking, but I do believe he's giving it serious consideration."

Another participant, Rep. Jim Kasper, R-Fargo, said he did not believe it was necessary for Hoeven to announce his plans soon. "The longer he waits, it's OK," Kasper said. "The races are long enough the way they are."

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TOPICS: North Dakota; Campaign News; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2010

1 posted on 11/05/2009 7:36:11 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Last Dakotan; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; Norman Bates; LdSentinal; ExTexasRedhead; ...

I wish that Hoeven would make a decision soon. I’m encouraged by the speculation that he feels a sense of responsibility on runnning. We need him to save the country from the ‘Rats, and there are too many of them on Capitol Hill.


2 posted on 11/05/2009 7:38:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Good. Start kicking those damn blue dogs from the Heartland. Can’t wait for the sweep to hit the Southwest and the Midwest.


3 posted on 11/05/2009 7:38:36 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (A good Blue Dog is an unelected Blue Dog. Ditto Rino's!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Shouldn’t this be easy pick for GOP?


4 posted on 11/05/2009 7:40:29 PM PST by heiss
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To: Clintonfatigued

Did I get kicked off the list? :)


5 posted on 11/05/2009 7:41:10 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: heiss

Not easy, but possible giving Hoeven’s popularity and the way the political winds seem to be blowing.

Dorgan is a good politician and even I have a few good things to say about him, so I’m betting that knocking him off will be harder than some of our other targets.


6 posted on 11/05/2009 7:44:03 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Oh, sorry. I don’t have a written list, just a memorized one. You hadn’t responded to many threads and I forgot about you. My mistake.


7 posted on 11/05/2009 7:44:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: Clintonfatigued

My fault...I thought you had a written one.

Sometimes, I don’t respond, but I always read. I find your insight and posts very interesting. I keep up with 90% of them anyway, but I just wanted to get the other 10%. :)


8 posted on 11/05/2009 7:46:39 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Winning Jersey and VA will be a boon to Congressional recruitment. Expect more promising candidates for Congress to step forward in the next couple of months.


9 posted on 11/05/2009 8:46:29 PM PST by yongin
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Hey, you’d better tell me what you want to be pinged to. I think I usually only hit you up with NY or Northeast-related stuff. Like CF, my list tends to be memorized... (and I’m always accidentally forgetting some names).


10 posted on 11/05/2009 10:49:35 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I agree. It’s a travesty that there are several states like North Dakota where Republicans crush Dems in presidential elections, by they’re represented by Democrats. Montana and South Dakota also come to mind.


11 posted on 11/06/2009 6:29:02 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Clintonfatigued

I forgot to add Arkansas as well. Republicans win this state by 10-20 pts in presidential elections (with the exeption of Slick Willie). There’s no reason why it should be represented by two Dems.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 6:57:27 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I’m down for as many as you can remember to ping me on. I’m interested in as much of the big picture as possible. :)


13 posted on 11/06/2009 8:07:20 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Ah, OK, I’ll try. ;-P


14 posted on 11/06/2009 1:54:06 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

There are reasons for some of that. ND, for example, tended to often send Socialist Republicans (endorsed by the Non-Partisan League, despite the name, a pro-Socialist group). When the NPL, which usually endorsed Republicans, merged with the ND Democrats in the late ‘50s, that’s when the Dems started to take the lead in state politics. The GOP is the majority party now, at least at the state level, but it has been exceptionally difficult to blast the NPL/Democrats from the federal level, if only because we don’t field serious candidates against them.

South Dakota is different than ND as they had no Socialist group like the NPL, but what accounted for why the delegation isn’t entirely GOP can be blamed at the feet of ex-Gov & ex-Rep. Bill Janklow, who was a prima donna RINO who played no small part in taking out our federal Republicans while playing footsie with the Democrats (it was no surprise Tom Daschle was at Janklow’s vehicular homicide trial as a character witness !).

Montana is also problematic for us, we have only elected 2 Republican Senators since the popular vote began in the 1910s. We’ve done better with electing Governors there (and the legislature), but we have trouble with getting a lot of the statewide offices, too. We currently hold zero. Only Denny Rehberg is the sole Republican at the statewide or federal level.

Arkansas was well on its way to becoming a GOP state downballot, that was until Huckster took that and turned it right back around to the Dems. Like MT, we have zero statewide Republicans and only just the 1 federal Congressman. The GOP only made its first gains in the AR House last year for the first time in almost a decade. Had we a more competent GOP Governor leading from the ‘90s into this decade (read: Haley Barbour), the state would’ve had far more GOP officeholders.

As it stands, we could actually hold all 4 House seats there, and both Senate seats. We probably will take Blanche Lincoln’s seat next year so long as we don’t run a dud candidate (although they will be second-tier, since there’s only one first-tier Republican in the state, and that’s Congressman Boozman, and I don’t count Huckster, he ain’t interesting in helping the AR GOP). More embarrassing for the state GOP with respect to the statewide elections next year, the Dem Governor, Mike Beebe, has proven to be adequately competent (or at least I haven’t heard or seen any major missteps), and the GOP may not even put up a challenger to him, prefering to focus on the winnable Senate race.


15 posted on 11/06/2009 2:08:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

West Virginia is another state where the GOP should hold two senate seats.


16 posted on 11/06/2009 2:28:45 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: ABQHispConservative

The Blue dogs are a house only thing.


17 posted on 11/06/2009 4:44:50 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy
The Blue dogs

The Blue Dogs won't bite...they are a bunch of cowering, shivering, and submissive shelter dogs.

They will vote as they are told by master Pelosi, and are otherwise totally undependable for voting their "conservative" leanings.

18 posted on 11/06/2009 4:52:03 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

WV is an odd state. Started out Republican when it split from Virginia during the Civil War, swung back to the Democrats in the 1870s, back solidly to the GOP by 1900, back and forth between the two parties in the ‘10s, back to the GOP in the ‘20s (solidly so), back very hard to the Dems in the ‘30s, but rarely competitive for the GOP afterwards. Last time we won a Senate seat was in 1956 for the two-year remainder of a 6-year term. The Dem incumbent died in the other seat, and the-then GOP Governor, Cecil Underwood, appointed a Republican - so we actually had two Republicans going into the 1958 elections, but that election was the worst ever for Senate Republicans since the popular vote was instituted. Closest we’ve gotten since was in 1978 when Byrd’s seatmate, Jennings Randolph, nearly lost to Gov. Arch Moore (Rep. Shelley Capito’s father).

I personally think when Byrd dies (and he turns 92 shortly and is obviously in poor shape), we may get the seat back in a special, especially depending upon whom Dem Gov. Manchin appoints. I think WV is coming back to us, but the party has some work to do downballot (we had heartbreakingly close losses for statewide races last year, and the lone Republican, Sec of State Betty Ireland opted not to run for a second term, and we had an African-born Black Republican who was ignored by the national party and had no money as the nominee who predictably lost to a rich White Dem lady). Three of the major cities in WV (Charleston, Huntington & Wheeling) have GOP Mayors.


19 posted on 11/06/2009 5:41:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Ugh, Janklow. Let’s see: He ran in the primary against Jim Abnor in 1986, weakening him enough so that Daschle could knock him off that year, he ran for the House in 2002 and forestalled former Senator Larry Pressler from making a comeback, and then proceeded to run over the speed limit and kill somebody in a motor accident, forcing him to resign and helping to lose the seat to Stephanie Hestreth-Sandlin.

He should have his own wing in the How-to-ruin-your-own-party Museum.


20 posted on 11/06/2009 8:57:29 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Our Joe Wilson can take the Dems' Joe Wilson any day of the week)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

Yup, you pretty much summed it up, and he couldn’t care less what he was doing. At no point did he show an ounce of interest in running against his good buddy Daschle (or Tim Johnson), but he sure couldn’t tolerate ANY Republican holding federal office in the state. I guarantee if he hadn’t mowed down that biker, he’d be plotting how to take out John Thune next year.

BTW, SD had a good GOP Governor named Walter Dale Miller (who became Governor when George Mickelson died in the plane crash). Miller was on course to winning a term in his own right in ‘94 when Janklow *ucked him, too, and stole it away from him. Despicable man.


21 posted on 11/06/2009 9:03:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

They are liberals, they just lie more.


22 posted on 11/07/2009 2:52:42 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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