Posted on 11/08/2009 9:06:05 AM PST by Military family member
FReep this poll:
Will passage of the Health Care Reform bill have a positive impact for the United States?
Yes, It's a move that's long overdue.
Yes, the public option will help lower health care costs.
No, the new system will result in reduced availability of benefits.
No, It's a big move toward socialism that will do more harm than good.
No opinion
(Excerpt) Read more at wabashvalleyjournalonline.com ...
No Thanks if I have to create an account
Only ten people have voted so far and all say NO.
Agree.....
I voted and didn’t have to create an account.
Will passage of the Health Care Reform bill have a positive impact for the United States?.
No, It’s a big move toward socialism that will do more harm than good.
24 92.3%
Yes, the public option will help lower health care costs.
1 3.8%
No, the new system will result in reduced availability of benefits.
1 3.8%
Yes, It’s a move that’s long overdue.
0 0%
No opinion
0 0%
Number of Voters : 26
First Vote : Sunday, 08 November 2009 12:06
Last Vote : Sunday, 08 November 2009 12:09
That's too definitive to choose "no opinion."
OK ... I voted
Me, too. Now there’s 127 No votes which is 97% of those cast by 12:25 pm EST.
No account creation was required, and the current results are:
Will passage of the Health Care Reform bill have a positive impact for the United States?.
No, It’s a big move toward socialism that will do more harm than good. 117 votes (90%)
No, the new system will result in reduced availability of benefits. 8 votes (6.2%)
Yes, the public option will help lower health care costs. 4 votes (3.1%)
Yes, It’s a move that’s long overdue.
1 vote (0.8%)
No opinion
0 votes (0%)
Number of Voters : 130
Interesting way to phrase the question - no bias there!
Well it’s “passed” the House, but not yet into law.
Besides, this has “unconstitutional” written all over it. One battle in a very long war.
I am positive it will have an impact
Not only do you not need an account, but apparently you can vote multiple times....I just did!
Not only do you not need an account, but apparently you can vote multiple times....I just did!
The only poll that mattered was the "poll" late last night in the HR.
And conservatives lost that one.
Now, it's on to the Senate.
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Will passage of the Health Care Reform bill have a positive impact for the United States?. |
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No, It's a big move toward socialism that will do more harm than good. |
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| 208 | 88.1% |
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| No, the new system will result in reduced availability of benefits. | ||
| 20 | 8.5% |
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| Yes, the public option will help lower health care costs. | ||
| 5 | 2.1% |
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| Yes, It's a move that's long overdue. | ||
| 3 | 1.3% |
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| No opinion | ||
| 0 | 0% |
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| Number of Voters | : 236 |
| First Vote | : Sunday, 08 November 2009 12:06 |
| Last Vote | : Sunday, 08 November 2009 12:55 |
Pick it up and pass it on to all your Military friends and members. Dems always break their promises. TRI CARE FOR LIFE
This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options (Pelosi breaks word to Rep Buyer no amendments)
REPUBLICAN PRESS RELEASE ^ | November 6, 2009 | Rep Buyer abd Rep McKeon
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Washington, D.C. — Today, House Committee on Veterans’ Affairs Ranking Member Steve Buyer and House Armed Services Committee Ranking Member Howard P. “Buck” McKeon offered three amendments to the Pelosi healthcare bill that would protect America’s Veterans and military TRICARE beneficiaries. The healthcare legislation, which is expected to be voted on in the full House in the coming days limits veteran’s and service member’s health care choices and places veterans and military health care unnecessarily at risk by not clearly excluding military and veterans health care from the requirements of the bill.
“In addition to being fundamentally opposed to a sweeping government takeover of health care, I also strongly object to the bill that was unveiled today because it would limit veterans’ ability to choose a health care provider,” said Rep. Buyer. “The liberty and freedom upon which our nation is founded was paid for through the sacrifices of veterans, and I find it outrageous that the government veterans defended would presume to dictate where and how they obtain health care. This is not the type of government veterans have fought and died for.”
“America must remain vigilant in our efforts to provide the necessary support to our Veterans, military retirees, and current military personnel,” said Rep. McKeon. “The Democrat healthcare bill that will be voted on in the coming days creates unnecessary uncertainty for our Veterans and military families that their healthcare options will be unfairly limited. Our amendments make certain—in the strongest terms possible—that our nation’s heroes will continue to have options, while protecting their rights to maintain their current high-quality options if they so choose.”
Reps. Buyer and McKeon offered the following three amendments to ensure that our veterans, servicemembers, and their families are not hurt by the bill:
· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #001: Would add a new subsection to provide explicitly that veterans enrolled in the VA health care and TRICARE beneficiaries may choose additional health insurance through the “Health Insurance Exchange”, along with care provided by VA or DOD.
The bill reads: “(a) ACCESS TO COVERAGE. – In accordance with this section, all individuals are eligible to obtain coverage through enrollment in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan offered through the Health Insurance Exchange unless such individuals are enrolled in another qualified health benefits plan or certain other acceptable coverage.” [page 156, line 11-16].
Under H.R. 3962, VA health care and TRICARE would be deemed "qualified" coverage. The problem with the language is that it is ambiguous and can be interpreted to disqualify individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE from participating in the exchange.
This amendment was accepted at the Energy and Commerce Committee markup, but the Democratic Leadership failed to include it in H.R. 3962.
· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #002: Would ensure that the authority of the Secretary of VA and Secretary of DOD could never be challenged or obstructed by any provision in the bill or by a secretary or commissioner from another part of government.
As currently written, H.R. 3962 would provide that the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of VA retain sole authority over their respective health care systems only with respect to Subtitle A, the Health Insurance Exchange. This was the original Buyer Amendment adopted in Energy and Commerce Committee. However, it was limited to “Subtitle A” because of germaneness requirements. The intent was that as the Committee bills were merged, the language would be revised to encompass the entire bill.
The section-by-section analysis on the Energy and Commerce Committee Website states that Section 311 “makes clear that nothing in this act interferes with the Department of Veterans Affairs or Department of Defense’s existing authorities.”
In fact, this description is incorrect and our amendment would provide that the bill conform to the website’s assertion.
· Buyer/McKeon Amendment #003: Would amend section 342 of the bill to allow individuals enrolled in VA health care and TRICARE to be eligible for affordable tax credits. Currently, H.R. 3962 defines an “affordable credit eligible individual” as one who is not enrolled in acceptable coverage – which would exclude individuals enrolled in VA health care or TRICARE.
No, It’s a big move toward socialism that will do more harm than good.
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