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Why I'm not a republican
vanity | The Watcher

Posted on 05/15/2010 12:57:52 AM PDT by The Watcher

I watched the video of Gov Christie talking to the reporter and it reminded me why I just can't be in the GOP. Or any party, it seems. I thought I'd post my thoughts on the topic, which I wrote separately in a moment of introspection.

I've never voted for a Democrat, just to be sure... But why can't the GOP be something besides simpering, terrified lapdogs, afraid of their own shadow? Seriously, why can't you grow some...something... and develop at least a minute fraction of the guts of Christie? Why is the RNC so utterly deferential to libs and to the press? I mean, grow a pair. Say "we're stopping this leftward lemming rush over the cliff of destruction, even if it means we fill the house, senate, and every office in DC with protesting Tea Party people and bring this government to a HALT! Either you're serious.... Or you're not. And presently, the GOP is about as unserious as those actors in Hollywood whining about global warming after flying around the world in thier jets.

Can't understand why the Tea Party sprang into being? It's simple, ordinary, non partisan people, have become SO frustrated at the Democrats stupidity, and the utter refusal of the GOP to be anything but terrified lapdogs who do not believe in the Constiution, law, or anything vaguely American. RNC... GROW SOME CONVICTIONS AND FIGHT FOR THE COUNTRY, instead of just playing silly games.

It seems that few people these days want to take the time to say what they really think. Perhaps, they don't want to really think, and just want to "feel" aabout things. Well, that's not me.

When the TEA Party people started their protests, and the protests gained strength, I realized why I identified with them. I have never publicly protested anything. I have never run for office. I would not want it, even if it were offered without the race, because I'm not one who really wants to be confrontational. If I were in office, I would have to be. After all, the mindless stupidity of being ten or twelve or fourteen trillion in debt, or whatever it is this week, is so beyond anything acceptable as "sane" it's no longer a matter of debating the merits of what's being done. It's simply calling "stupid"...Stupid.

Any individual or businessman who ran his affairs this way would be recognized as either a fraud...cheat...or mind bogglingly stupid. But, seemingly no politician can bring himself to say it.

Adding massive new entitlements, hugely economicly disruptive rules, laws, taxes, and regulations, and massive new controls on the marketplace in these times? Again, it's so many light-years from a position called "sane" there's not words to describe it.

Us ordinary people may have never approved. We just somehow, perhaps naively thought that eventually, as it does in every other aspect of our lives, reality would force the bozos who are playing government into rational behavior. But the precise opposite happened. And now, the last vestige of the sane and sensible, the ordinary schmucks, have realized that the inmates are running the country, not just the assylum.

Which brings me back to my original point. There's nothing even slightly radical about believing tens of trillions of debt, along with scores of trillions of redistributive governmental obligations is insanity, just NOT wise or prudent...Or even surviveable.

It's not even slightly insane to think that government should live within the clear, obvious, and, well, very, very plain boundaries of the Constitution. And that cleverly constructed blather to the contrary should simply be ignored as coming from unserious people. Nor is any of this "radical", either. In fact, it's, well, prudent.

So why can't the GOP even try? I mean, seriously. The opposition to Obamacare was so pathetic. Either it was wrong... or it wasn't. If it was wrong, it should have been stopped. And I mean, STOPPED. The left's perfectly willing to blackmail and disrupt, and all they're doing is just being obnoxious until you give them someone else's money so they'll go away... until tomorrow, when they want some more.

Why didn't the GOP open the doors to their offices and to the whole of Congress? Flood the place with protesters and bring the proceedings to a STOP??? And the, negotiated hardball. "Yeah, we'll ask them to leave when you promise in writing to pass OUR bill!".

It's not like we the people are trying to do anything but get the Constitution back in order and the government back into it's boundaries, and sanity restored to our nation's books. No, we're not trying to take over, become tyrants, inflict massive social upheaveal or any other such stuff. No, just plain old fashioned prudence and judgement and respect for our fundamental laws.

If the GOP can't bring itself to fight for that, without shame, without hesitation, without apology or excuse, when what good is it? The other side plays as dishonestly, as deceptively, as violently, as demandingly and plays desperate hardball... TO DEMAND WRONG, COMPROMISE OF THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW. Why is the GOP so timid about doing the RIGHT ( and defensible in every aspect ) thing, and unwilling to do it with more determination than an overcooked spaghettie noodle?

It's easy to see why the TEA Party is here. It's a last desperate plea from the final and last resort of the sane and sensible. So, when...Or should I ask, WILL, the GOP ever decide to get serious? If not, it serves no useful purpose and might as well not exist. It certainly isn't doing anything worthy now. As my daddy used to say "try" counts nothing, "Do" is all that matters.

I'd like to get an answer from Steele himself. From the "leadership" in Congress that's not leading. How ya suppose I get them to do it?


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To: The Watcher

“Why is the RNC so utterly deferential to libs and to the press? I mean, grow a pair ...”

Stupid vanity.

You get exhibit A of a Republican governor NOT being deferential to libs, suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous slanders, and STANDING UP to the press ... and in reaction to that, you say the opposite of what’s going on.

You say:
“I’m not one who really wants to be confrontational.”
WEll guess what, maybe there are good conservative public servants who feel the same way, but didnt want to let the libs run all over us. So they stepped forward.

Why couldnt a GOP minority stop obamacare? I mean SERIOUSLY - they have zero power to stop Democrat majority rule, the media is on Obama’s side, and you didnt know that? What do you expect, supermen with trained sharks with laser beams on their heads zapping the Dems?!? No, EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN OPPOSED OBAMACARE. They made good arguments, and the people responded and were and are on our side. COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS REFUSAL TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ... but complaining about the GOP is ‘concern troll’ BS, they have done well as an outnumbered minority and NOW is the time to support them in taking back the Congress.

Humans are fallible and the humans that make up the GOP are fallible too... if you can do better, pitch in and make it so. If you cant or wont, then your vanity is just that - vanity.


41 posted on 05/15/2010 7:29:19 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: The Watcher
I'm not a republican and won't register as one of them particularly now since the GOP betrayed Arizona conservatives by permitting an open primary in the contest between JD Hayworth and Presidental loser McCain. Now I don't need to be a republican to have an impact in the party. I can be independent or other and still vote in the republican primary. Hell, I can be a gaea-worshipping tree-hugging wiccan and register as one, and still vote in the republican primary like ANYONE can. That's the point, right? Dilute the voice of the people who cared enough about the party to register and possibly donate to them.

Well, screw them...

42 posted on 05/15/2010 7:32:32 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: nathanbedford
Right the Republicans did not fall on the swords, and now look what we have! Obviously the Republican strategy is complete failure. Look at what has happened to our Republic.
43 posted on 05/15/2010 7:34:59 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: The Watcher

I was born with a spine. That is why I am not a Republican.


44 posted on 05/15/2010 7:35:58 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Thank You God for Freeing the Navy Seals)
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To: WOSG

The GOP has failed the conservatives of our Republic. The McCain types need to be fired and replaced. If the GOP can’t do in Washington what they promise when they campaign, then are of no use! Why would people vote for them if they are not going to stop the Socialist agenda?

Think about it. What the hell has the GOP done about illegal immigration? When was the last time the GOP eliminated a single department in the Federal Government? What happened to being fiscal responsibility?

Oh yeah they talk a good game during the campaign and when in the minority in congress. Just looked at what happened when they were in the majority. Not jack $hit!


45 posted on 05/15/2010 7:40:28 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: The Watcher

You are just plain ignorant. There is a TON of stuff going on that the GOP is doing to defend our freedom and future that you have no idea about.

HUNDREDS of good GOP Congressional candidates.
THOUSANDS of good GOP State-level candidates.
AZ Republicans just pass AZ immigration law - nothing?!? Look at the heat that got.
And Gov Christie going hammer-and-tong after NJ overspending.
just the tip of a huge pile of good things out of the republicans.

You are stewing in your own juice of ignorant cynicism.
Get educated first - know your congressional, state rep, state senate, US Senate and local candidates - know who your elected officials are and give THEM the earful - know that media bias is pervasive and their negative drumbeat against Republicans HAS gotten to you ...
and then ...
Lead, follow or get out of the way.

http://www.redstate.com/

“There’s an army of millions of Americans who want to fix things and who would provide the muscle to make it happen.”
Each and every one of thse folks needs to find campaigns they believe in:
http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2010/05/14/meet-larry-bucshon-r-cand-in-08/


46 posted on 05/15/2010 7:42:02 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: sargon

“Republican office-seekers and office-holders must call this crap exactly what it is: blatant, corrosive, TYRANNICAL socialism/marxism/communism.”

Michelle Bachmann and others like her HAVE done that.

I am beyond annoyed at these armchair generals spouting off “this should happen” when they have no CLUE as to what is really going on.


47 posted on 05/15/2010 7:45:49 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Leisler

Crist IS out .. now what?
Will you let him win as a Dem-leaning indie?
Or will you stop him by supporting Rubio?


48 posted on 05/15/2010 7:46:50 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: Sprite518

“What the hell has the GOP done about illegal immigration? “

More ignorance. The AZ Republicans pass a tough bill, Obama calls them racists and you spout off ‘what have they done?”

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE - read the danged paper! Get educated!

Your complaints are SOOOOO 2006! Get with it, its 2010 already folks!

Jeez!


49 posted on 05/15/2010 7:51:01 AM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG

On a National level (Federal Government) and not State?

Answer: Nothing

Do you really believe the GOP is going to do something. LMAO!

Yeah vote for them and watch them do NOTHING!

The most outspoken people in this nation, and even Obama admits this, is conservative talk radio and web sites like Free Republic.

Obama is not afraid of the GOP at all. He knows they will bend over and grab their ankles. That is what they do! They are worthless!


50 posted on 05/15/2010 8:27:55 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: The Watcher
1). Defeat & take over the GOP party structure like the patriots in UT did.

2). Defeat the socialists in power.

Anything else is the status quo.
51 posted on 05/15/2010 8:36:37 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: curth

i was for Lonegan in the primary, but some opposed Christie in the general.


52 posted on 05/15/2010 9:02:05 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: WOSG
You said: Why couldnt a GOP minority stop obamacare? I mean SERIOUSLY - they have zero power to stop Democrat majority rule, the media is on Obama’s side, and you didnt know that? What do you expect, supermen with trained sharks with laser beams on their heads zapping the Dems?!? No, EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN OPPOSED OBAMACARE. They made good arguments, and the people responded and were and are on our side. COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS REFUSAL TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE ... but complaining about the GOP is ‘concern troll’ BS, they have done well as an outnumbered minority and NOW is the time to support them in taking back the Congress. Yes, the GOP played the "parlor game" in DC and lost. We knew that. We knew they'd lose that game. They knew they'd lose that game. But that's the ONLY game they played. While the libs have amassed a huge war chest of paid activists, thugs, fraud, paid activism, and called on millions of astroturfers to give them MSM political cover, and on and on.. the GOP sat on their fat backsides and played the parlor game with a fixed outcome. What's the point in giving them a majority? They'll just whine and moan and be "bipartisan" so as to not make the MSM mad, while we race frantically over the cliff of destruction. So, while the GOP has become good at the parlor game of winks and nods in DC, what is needed is LEADERSHIP, one where they act such that people are actually inspired by them, instead of playing wet blanket firemen. Seriously, in the aftermath of Obamacare, how many GOP figures self flagellated about being called "the party of NO!"? Where's the video of the GOP rallying millions to DC and shutting down the place and then "negotiating" to get their way, or the government stays shut down? They should be SPONSORING the largest and most civil disobedient rallies the nation has ever seen, WE MUST PRESERVE THE UNION. We know the TEA Party people don't riot, don't break glass, hell, they don't even litter. Yes, the GOP gained enough spine to not vote with the Democrats on ONE issue. And immediately backslid and has myriad members supporting cap and trade and this stupid bailout crap and on and on. They learned NOTHING. As far as Christie goes... He can be judged when some history has occurred and we can see if he's just a big mouth with just enough spine to stare down a stupid reporter, or if he's willing to go the distance. The GOP is still seeking lefties for office, and is still content to play the game in DC without leading. It's as if they have eyes but cannot see, and are actually afraid of conservative ideals, which they run from anytime there's not a TEA Party rally outside their door, consisting of pitchforks and long knives. And while you insist that there are individual members of the party who ARE willing to do something, some little something, I've specifically been addressing the non leadership. And still am. You can literally see them dreaming up ways to triangulate to try to "have amnesty and oppose it too". OR, politics as usual. As to your question, could the GOP have stopped Obamacare? Absolutely. No question. It would have only required them having a tiny bit of courage and acting with some conviction, but they could do nothing but hide frantically in the dark and rush out with vote counts to placate the mobs outside the door. And immediately after, waffle about rescinding it. Talk about courage of your convictions. Not even a smidgeon to be seen.
53 posted on 05/15/2010 9:53:46 AM PDT by The Watcher
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To: The Watcher
I've had enough of the "Gutless Old Party" as well.
54 posted on 05/15/2010 10:01:07 AM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: nathanbedford

What’s this about the GOP falling on their swords? They need do no such thing. Not only can they win on attacking entitlements, they can GAIN ELECTIONS as well, while doing it.

If Dave Ramsey can obliterate every liberal idiotic notion in 3 minutes on tv or radio, and gain audience, then why the hell can’t some experienced speakers who have the whole insides of government and it’s research get off their duff and do it even better?

If the leadership of the GOP started acting like they had a pair between the 40 of them, THE PEOPLE would have their backs, no problem. But they have to LEAD, not just become masters of the house and senate rule book. Yeah, that stuff is important, but leadership is planting yourself in front of the movement, pointing the direction to go and then starting off in that direction. And NEVER RETREATING. Bush was so spineless that he actually retreated on a great idea and in so doing discredited himself and discredited wisdom and prudence. It’s like the worst of all worlds, to first start toward something ,and then when criticised, run from it. You just told your enemy you agree with them. What a putz.

For all those RINO’s... The leadership of the GOP should be on radio, on TV, on the web, directing the masses of TEA Party types and using their knowledge from the inside to so overwhelm the RINOs that they are gauranteed to go along. A little taste of two million people bringing every office, staff, phone, etc, in your RINO’s organization to a screeching halt and refusing to call off the dogs until they go along.

It’s called “hardball” and my version of it is called “enriched uranium explosive propelled pitching”.

Or, perhaps these twits just don’t care, don’t believe what they say, or haven’t got collectively a pair sufficient to stiffen anything, least of all spine. Every damn thing has been given to them. millions of activists you can trust to stand for the right things, millions who will travel the country to make the mobs you need, and never retreating. In other words, hardball so hard that Obama turns whiter than Lohann’s hiney, and the SEIU runs up the white flag. THAT would be growing a pair, in my world. Anything less, is just playing games. Either you intend to win, by crushing, overwhelming, irresistable force... Or you just wanna play games.


55 posted on 05/15/2010 10:11:29 AM PDT by The Watcher
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To: The Watcher

I watched the video of Gov Christie talking to the reporter and it reminded me why I just can’t be in the GOP.

But why can’t the GOP be something besides simpering, terrified lapdogs, afraid of their own shadow?


Life’s confusing sometimes.


56 posted on 05/15/2010 10:12:51 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: RightOnline

you said:

OK....you lost me right here. Overall, a fine piece, I must say.....yet you openly admit to being one who doesn’t want to be confrontational.

So, you want someone else to do it for you? You feel that the mess we find ourselves in will be rectified without confrontation?


What I said was that I am not normally a confrontational person. I don’t go seeking it. I don’t WANT power, because with it comes responsibility. Christ, in the Garden, sweated blood praying “ If possible, let this cup pass from me”. We all know He still did it. There’s nothing wrong with not being of a nature that doesn’t seek confrontation.

But if you run for office... and you get elected... YOU OWN THIS MESS AND YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO FIX IT. I’m known in my world as a “really nice guy”.

IF I were to be in office, then I would have a sacred obligation to not just be a little confrontational - a la Gov Christie and some shmuck reporter - but to be the toughest, meanest, most devious, determined and unflagging General there ever was. To rally every troop determined to fight and to fight to the last man standing in the best and most effective way possible. To use every possible weapon at my disposal to do the right thing.

After all, what needs to be done is not just the “Right thing”, but the imperative, due to the consequences.

SEIU thugs are naturally confrontational, but they’re just bullies. Put good men, with good conviction with their backs to the wall, and they truly fight. Even if that’s not their first nature.


57 posted on 05/15/2010 10:25:49 AM PDT by The Watcher
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To: McGavin999

No, I’m not a GOP member because the GOP leadership has no spine, no convictions, and no courage, whatsoever. And I’m reminded of it because Gov Christie made the ever so slight rebuke of an idiot, in a situation where there’s likely no consequences. Just enough hint of manhood to remind us what real men do when the going gets tough.

Where’s the GOP holding up the “lower taxes, less regulation, distributed empowerment” theme to back up Chrstie? I’m in Oregon, I see nada. Experience says they’re hiding somewhere, hoping he can have some success to coattail on later.


58 posted on 05/15/2010 10:29:34 AM PDT by The Watcher
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To: WOSG
You said: “There’s an army of millions of Americans who want to fix things and who would provide the muscle to make it happen.” Each and every one of thse folks needs to find campaigns they believe in: http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2010/05/14/meet-larry-bucshon-r-cand-in-08/ "

So we can give the GOP leadership an army to retreat with? Or to fight with, demanding further and further "compromise" in the name of "bipartisanship"???? Please. Might as well just shoot both feet.

59 posted on 05/15/2010 10:32:37 AM PDT by The Watcher
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To: The Watcher
The reason you are not seeing it is because you live in Oregon, where there used to be some republicans but everyone gave up, like you did. Talk about no backbone, how can you expect THEM to have backbone if you have none.

We need people who are willing to fight, you just want to give up.

60 posted on 05/15/2010 11:12:48 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Illegal is not a race, it is a crime)
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