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Not Huckabee, Not Romney, Giuliani, or McCain
SODERSTROME.COM ^ | July 8, 2010 | Erik Soderstrom

Posted on 07/14/2010 8:12:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With two years until the next presidential election, several of the Republican candidates from the 2008 election cycle are trying to posture themselves for another run at the GOP nomination. To be blunt, none of the major players from the last election should be anywhere near the 2012 nomination. They have too many skeletons and too little backbone.

Huckabee is a committed social conservative. From what I have seen, he is devoutly religious, and often shares his views about faith. Huckabee seems like a nice guy, a good neighbor. But America is not craving a social conservative. We don’t need a “feel-good,” “compassionate,” president, we need someone willing to take radical liberals like Pelosi head-on. We need a fiscal conservative willing to slash the runaway entitlement spending built up by Congressional Democrats. Huckabee may be the most moral presidential candidate in recent history, but I struggle to imagine him rolling back liberal regression.

Before there was ObamaCare, there was RomneyCare, the Massachusetts health care plan. I don’t often advocate single-issue politics, but this is a major issue. How can we trust a man who brought an equally destructive—albeit constitutional—health care takeover to his own state to repeal the Democrat takeover of our health care at the national level? The simple answer: we can’t.

Politically, Giuliani is probably the most dependable, but he is a New England Republican. He is a “moderate” who supported “comprehensive immigration reform” to provide a “path to citizenship” on the 2008 campaign trail. Amnesty never has worked; amnesty never will work; it fails every time it is tried. If the immigration snafu isn’t enough to take down Giuliani among Conservatives, Democrats are sure to break out the scandal file and bring up the same ethics charges that stymied his campaign the last time around. All-in-all, unless he’s facing a weak Democrat with a continued GOP upswing, Giuliani is a losing candidate.

And finally, if McCain chooses to run in 2012, he is a fool. If the Republican party selects him as the nominee, then it deserves to go down in flames.


TOPICS: Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2012; giuliani; huckabee; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare; rudymcromney
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That leaves _______ for 2012. Can you name that candidate?
1 posted on 07/14/2010 8:12:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It rhymes with “Palin”


2 posted on 07/14/2010 8:14:11 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And NOT Newt Gingrich either. These are “have beens.” Will the new Governor of Virginia please step forward.


3 posted on 07/14/2010 8:15:19 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And NOT Newt Gingrich either. These are “have beens.” Will the new Governor of Virginia please step forward.


4 posted on 07/14/2010 8:15:26 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not Newt either.


5 posted on 07/14/2010 8:15:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: Steelfish

Beat me!


6 posted on 07/14/2010 8:16:34 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: pfflier

It also rhymes with Obama bin Failin’.


7 posted on 07/14/2010 8:17:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The 4th Estate is a 5th Column, do a #1 & #2 on them, they're #10!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DUNCAN HUNTER...DUNCAN HUNTER...DUNCAN HUNTER


8 posted on 07/14/2010 8:17:10 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Steelfish

twice


9 posted on 07/14/2010 8:17:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Uhhhhh....

Newt?

Right?

:-)

10 posted on 07/14/2010 8:18:00 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Giuliani should run for ny gov just to can the mosque at ground zero.
Yeah I know he is corrupt, but that’s better than bloomberg suck-up muslimphile


11 posted on 07/14/2010 8:18:31 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: qaz123

Yes, he’ll be a great Secretary of the Army in the Palin administration or maybe ICE director. Keep the ideas coming, folks!


12 posted on 07/14/2010 8:18:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The 4th Estate is a 5th Column, do a #1 & #2 on them, they're #10!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bobby Jindal
David Petraeus
Haley Barbour
13 posted on 07/14/2010 8:20:17 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: smokingfrog; Steelfish

And NOT Lindsey Graham or Charlie Christ!


14 posted on 07/14/2010 8:21:39 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: qaz123

Duncan Hunter was my congressman and would be my first choice. I don’t think he’ll be running, though.


15 posted on 07/14/2010 8:23:08 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That leaves Bachmann,Palin and Brewer we have NO men up to the task it seems!


16 posted on 07/14/2010 8:31:54 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: South40

No one good is running, because the American people won’t support anyone good.


17 posted on 07/14/2010 8:32:32 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America can survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: South40
Bobby Jindal David Petraeus Haley Barbour

Jindal isn't a natural born citizen

Petraus is liberal, he voted for Zero

18 posted on 07/14/2010 8:35:33 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can Jindal even run?

Doesn’t he have naturalization issues?
Of course, that doesn’t seem to MATTER, now does it?

Jim DeMint......Sarah Palin as Vice President, because I’m afraid that there are too many Neanderthals that would refuse to vote for a woman, because she’s a woman.

(and the blacks think THEY are the ONLY ones
EVER discriminated against....gosh DAMN, they’re self-centered; but, then...democrats usually are.)


19 posted on 07/14/2010 8:39:36 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paul Ryan


20 posted on 07/14/2010 8:44:45 PM PDT by byteback
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Petraus is liberal, he voted for Zero
____________
Prove it, post some links


21 posted on 07/14/2010 9:03:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And finally, if McCain chooses to run in 2012, .....


We’ve got to make sure democrats cannot vote in the republican primary. That’s what happened last time.

Also, the media was for mcLame beng the nominee. He won NY and a few places like that and it was game over. The south is very important to the republican party. It’s a shame the nominee was decided before the south even had a say in it. McCAIN was nominated by traditionally DEMOCRATIC STATES and demos voting in the primary.


22 posted on 07/14/2010 9:04:17 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: South40

Odumbo couldn’t wait to get rid of McCrystal and tie Petraeus up in Afghanistan,

http://petraeus2012.com/


23 posted on 07/14/2010 9:13:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00344

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297498,00.html

http://themoderatevoice.com/48651/general-confusion-mcchrystal-petraeus/

http://www.examiner.com/x-2304-DC-Republican-Examiner~y2009m3d15-Hmmm-Petraeus-To-Go-To-Iowa-Next-Year

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=petraeus_12

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_02/022515.php

Petraeus named second most influential “conservative”

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2007/11/02/petraeus/index.html

A Northeastern Scott Brown Republican?

http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2010/03/whats-general-petraeus-doing-in-new-hampshire/

Is Petraeus a Republican?

Petraeus is registered to vote as a Republican in New Hampshire—he once described himself to a friend as a northeastern Republican, in the tradition of Nelson Rockefeller—but he said that around 2002, after he became a two-star general, he stopped voting.

http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-plank/petraeus-republican


24 posted on 07/14/2010 9:32:04 PM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Herman CAIN!


25 posted on 07/14/2010 9:32:26 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin/Bachmann 2012. Sometimes it takes a mama lion to save our country.

I was raised by one, and we don’t back down when our family/country is threatened!

They can play their dirty, nasty, totally discredited race card all they want. You’re messing with moms here that care about God, family and country.

I went to a McCain rally in ‘08 where he said 0bama was not a bad man. I knew then that something was nefarious. What a pantload!

We simply want a better life for our children and women are the harbinger and protector of freedom that, I guess, one can get away with in this politically correct world.


26 posted on 07/14/2010 9:37:34 PM PDT by mplsconservative (I stand with Israel.)
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To: Cheetahcat
Sarah Palin will go down in history as both America's first woman president, and the best, most effective president in the modern era.

She's a gift to America from God.

;-/

27 posted on 07/14/2010 9:52:32 PM PDT by Gargantua (DON'T TREAD ON US.)
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To: mplsconservative
women are the harbinger and protector of freedom

Lady Liberty stands at our shore and holds her torch high. Women with torches may symbolize what it'll take to put this country back on track- for the future of their children, for the future of this country- for they are one and the same.

A great leader inspires others to do great things while accepting the nature of mankind and all it's frailties. That's why we have a Constitution- to limit the evil that government, with it's power, can wield over individuals whose natural rights must be protected.

Certain 'truths' are self-evident and any leader, male or female, who understands this and is willing to lead with them will not only inspire others but will enhance the human experience for all, including those who harbor reservations.

ps. I like your ticket.

28 posted on 07/14/2010 10:15:17 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michelle Bachman


29 posted on 07/14/2010 11:01:07 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: South40

Jindal, his parents are from India..did they become citizens before he was born?

Petraus..I have it from a friend who retired from the Army that he is like a Colin Powell and that oddly McChrystal was more the warrior..so no not him either.

Barbour..maybe


30 posted on 07/14/2010 11:03:39 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: byteback

Paul Ryan said he would not run..he has little kids and wants to be able to do his congressional job but also be there for his little kids.


31 posted on 07/14/2010 11:04:52 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: mojitojoe

So did McCrystal


32 posted on 07/14/2010 11:05:27 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: mplsconservative

33 posted on 07/14/2010 11:08:20 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: celtic gal

I know McCrystal did but I don’t think Petraeus did.


34 posted on 07/15/2010 12:51:48 AM PDT by mojitojoe (When crisis becomes opportunity, crisis becomes the goal.)
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To: South40

I like all of those better than any of the others, including Palin.


35 posted on 07/15/2010 4:58:07 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: Mortrey; YellowRoseofTx

UhmmmmJindal was BORN in Baton Rouge.

Jeeze.


36 posted on 07/15/2010 5:00:13 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: celtic gal

Jindal was BORN in Baton Rouge.


37 posted on 07/15/2010 5:01:02 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs

Were his parents US citizens at the time?


38 posted on 07/15/2010 5:08:59 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

What does that matter? As we all know from the illegal immigration debacle any child born here is automatically an American citizen, period.


39 posted on 07/15/2010 5:16:51 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: NucSubs

WTF?

The parents have to be US citizens to be eligible for anyone to be eligible for the presidency.


40 posted on 07/15/2010 5:20:51 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The parents have to be US citizens to be eligible for anyone to be eligible for the presidency.
41 posted on 07/15/2010 5:24:42 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: mojitojoe
Thanks for the info. I had heard a report that he voted for Zero, but nothing about his party affiliation. As we all know, being a Republican does not make you a conservative. His claiming to be a Northeastern Scott Brown Republican doesn't sound like the second most conservative on any list, other than a RINO list though, which Limbaugh would not be on. But if he is, I stand corrected.
42 posted on 07/15/2010 5:32:58 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: NucSubs
UhmmmmJindal was BORN in Baton Rouge. Jeeze.

Yes, he was born in the U.S., but neither of his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. They naturalized later. That makes him a citizen, but not a natural born citizen.

Jeeze.

43 posted on 07/15/2010 5:39:59 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

The term natural born has never been defined by the Supreme court and the fact that he is a citizen means he can be POTUS.

Jeeze.


44 posted on 07/15/2010 5:54:47 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Not true. He’s a citizen.


45 posted on 07/15/2010 5:55:41 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Haley Barbour


46 posted on 07/15/2010 6:03:14 AM PDT by Mtn Pass (Buy beans and bullets!)
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To: NucSubs
He’s a citizen.

So what?

The threshold for presidential eligibility is higher than simply being a mere citizen. Naturalized citizens aren't eligible either...they're citizens aren't they?

47 posted on 07/15/2010 6:06:46 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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To: NucSubs
...the fact that he is a citizen means he can be POTUS.

So according to you, just being a citizen is enough? That would mean any citizen, even a naturalized citizen can be potus?

48 posted on 07/15/2010 6:19:08 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The threshold is native, which is essentially natural.

No judicial distinction has ever been made between the two. The argument you are making was tried once before in a presidential election and it did not work then either. Niether the courts nor the people of would ever care about some imagined difference between natural and native.


49 posted on 07/15/2010 6:25:22 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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To: YellowRoseofTx

No, not a naturalized in the sense of a foreign born is not enough, but a native is.

See my response in post #49.


50 posted on 07/15/2010 6:27:42 AM PDT by NucSubs ( Cognitive dissonance: Conflict or anxiety resulting from inconsistency between beliefs and actions)
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