Posted on 07/27/2010 12:15:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Reminds me of republicans who were begging for Obama to win, even voted for him in the primary because they thought he would be the easiest to beat..how did that work out..yeah exactly my point.
I will pray that the Nutroots will get their wish. Palin will eat these fools alive.
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Independents will not vote for Obama again, at least very few anyway. Little of what brought out the youth and minority vote for Obama in such massive numbers will still be applicable. We will have already had the first black candidate, Obama isn’t hip anymore in any way, he has shown himself to be a massive failure with the economy, and he has really blown it in a spectacular way with the BP spill. Finally, he has not brought the troops home from Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obama will get his arse handed to him by Palin.
White House political strategists have concludedregretfullythat Ronald Reagan is fading and will have little chance of winning the Republican presidential nomination in 1980. Why the regrets? Because Carter's aides are convinced that the conservative, 68-year-old former California governor is an easy target. (April 2, 1979)Historic Whispers: Ronald Reagan Had Little Chance of Winning the Primary
What I think is that for all the love for Palin, I’m looking for actual evidence that she can win a presidential race.
I’m not even sure what kind of evidence there CAN be at this point. Old articles that show someone thought Reagan would lose doesn’t cut it—one can find such articles about every presidential candidate who ever ran.
So what do people see as indicators that she can win—I don’t mean just that one LIKES her, but that she can win?
Look at it this way: About 60% of Americans call themselves conservative vs. 20% liberal in polls. Do you really think that the economy will heal by 2012? Many facets of ObamaCare and FinReg will kick in between now and then. Whoever gets the GOP nomination will be in the catbird seat.
Do you have any suggestions?
More so than Dole-McCain-Romney-Huckabee-Gengrich.
Do you have any suggestions?
That's not an answer to my question, though I understand your point.
Do you have any suggestions?
I'm looking for an answer to this question, I don't have any answers--I support her because she's the only one possibly running who I could vote for, period. But I am looking for evidence she can win--just because I support her doesn't mean I believe she can win.
It's alarming to me that people can't answer this question (not just you). I'm not a Superfan the way some are, she's basically a fallback choice for me. I hear a lot of support, but see little evidence she can win.
I get what you’re seeing, but I recall much of the same reasoning going on before Clinton and Obama won, too—”too liberal!”
How many times have we been sure there was no way libs would win?
Again, you’re talking about an abstract theory—not saying you’re wrong, but what indicators are there that Palin can win. If it’s just that anyone can win against Obama, I fear Romney will get the “acceptable” vote like Dole and McCain, and I have my own theories as to why Romney can’t win.
“So what do people see as indicators that she can winI dont mean just that one LIKES her, but that she can win?”
She has consistently scored high unfavorables. Not good.
On another forum a smart guy opined that he had no doubt she could get the GOP nomination, but was equally sure she would not win the general.
Simple---just look at the sheer size of the crowds she draws EVERYWHERE she goes...even out in the desert on a blustery day.
I don’t see drawing crowds as evidence she can win a national election.
Here's the way I look at it. Right now, I believe she's the singular person on the conservative side (perhaps more than anyone else right now) that is presenting a genuine challenge and alternative to Obama. She's done something that I didn't think was possible from anyone even related to the GOP and that's use the Internet (specifically social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter) to her advantage and really to the conservative cause's advantage. Yes, others on the right have done this and we can look no further than FR as evidence of that. But I don't think that's something to completely discount. John McCain from what I remember had mentioned that he didn't know how to use the internet himself and his running mate seems to have been the complete opposite, in that aspect and others.
Further, I don't think that any of the other candidates rumored to be in the ring are setting the world on fire. Palin might still be the worst candidate, except for all the others (to paraphrase Churchill). But I'm not going to hitch my wagon to anyone else...yet.
1. She was Alaska’s governor and has conservative recored.
2. She was a mayor of an Alaskan town and has a conservative record.
3. She cleaned Biden’s clock in the vice presidential debate.
4. She’s the only conservative leader with national recognition.
5. She’s the only conservative leader who has mastered the sound bite game the Demrats play so well.
6. She’s the only conservative leader who explains her positions and the Constitution in clear and terse English.
7. She’s the only avowed Conservative leader whose position I can predict on any given issue.
8. It is undeniable that Juan McBipartisan has embraced conservative positions since Palin’s endorsement.
I know it’s chic to pretend this woman just dropped into the world when McCain picked her her for VEEP. But she had a recorded political life long before that.
Great post, and you’ve summed up my feelings, too. I think it’s great that she’s far more nimble than any other GOP candidate and has led the way for others to use 21st-century communications technology. Which is why some of her jaw-droppingly bad TV appearances shock the heck out of me.
But your last comment says it all. She’s all I’ve got.
Just look at Obama's crowds from 2008...that was clear evidence of his National "electability" (a word I detest!).
So what other Republican besides Palin can generate the same level of intensity in their respective voting bases?
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