Skip to comments.Illinois GOP and Tea Party Activists shut down freedom of speech
Posted on 08/21/2010 6:21:34 PM PDT by chicagolady
I am returning from a Republican Picnic and what I witnessed is absolutely astounding. I have been on the forefront of the illegal immigration battle, including being one of the original Minutemen on the Arizona/Mexico border in 2005 for the Original Minuteman Border watch.
With all the talk of Tea Parties and bringing back the Constitution, I learned it's just that. a LOT of talk.
I do not need to give most of you the run down on illegal immigration and Illinois. Or the shambles the Democratic and Republican parties ( Is There any difference?)have left Illinois in.
The Illinois Republican candidate for Governor announced that he had NO opinion on The Arizona law SB1070. Then weeks later he came out with his infinate wisdom. He supports MORE LEGAL immigration.
With that being said, I was asked to come up to the microphone today and give a few words on whats going on with illegal immigration.
This is what I said and as far as I got before the Microphone was shut off: I said folks, SAVING THE AMERICAN WORKER is what it's all about!
Will you please ask Bill Brady, (Illinois GOP gubernatorial Candidate)how will MORE Legal immigration help the 25 Million Americans who are out of work?
At that point the microphone was shut off because the State Chairman of Lake County BOB COOK, said I was bashing Bill Brady, the Republican Candidate for Governor.
I said " I told the voters to ask Bill how more legal immigration would help unemployed Americans, I did not BASH HIM!" To which Bob Cook replied, yes it is bashing.
This is the same group that is telling people they MUST vote for MARK KIRK who can't tell the truth to save his life and votes Ultra-Liberal all the time.
Anyway, the moral of the story is, these people use the phrase upholding the Constitution every chance they get.
Have they EVER heard of FREE SPEECH??
illegal immigration Ping
Please make sure that NumbersUSA and all other similar groups against illegal immigration know about this, too, if they don’t know about it already.
How did the crowd react?
I want to hear more on this, but it definitely sounds like the guy who turned off the mike was in the wrong.
I certainly don’t want Kirk to win. Who else is out there that seems like a real conservative candidate?
Sounds like the Illinois Tea Party has been co-opted by the kind of people who like power for the sake of power.
They’re all from Illinois. People there are totally beaten down by the criminal gang in Chicago.
So, you’re against LEGAL immigration?
Where people get into this country by playing by the rules?
You’re against THAT kind of immigration?
I wasn’t there so I’m not sure how it all went down, but could you clarify for me, were you talking about Legal or Illegal Immigration?
We really need a whole bunch of legal immigrants now that so many citizens are out of work????
Could it be that Illinois is SO CORRUPT that the corruption stains even the Tea Party?
There’s no one Tea Party. Bug out of this trump faux-Tea Party and either find a REAL one or start one.
When you go to a GOP event, they get to control the message. As Reagan once said, “I paid for this microphone.”
Were you the one paying for the microphone, the PA and all costs associated with the rally? Was it a government official that cut off your microphone?
If not, your First Amendment Rights were not violated.
Freedom of speech as it appears in the First Amendment has nothing to do with private gatherings. I doubt this event went down the way it is presented. The account flunks the smell test.
But even if it did, it is a fact that he who pays for the mic gets to say who uses it and for what. Only an idiot would bring up the Constitution in this context, and we have enough idiots here already thanks.
They supported it. They are NOT worried about the Constitution OR Tea Party Principles. It is so funny. They say that in ONE Breath then in the next breath, you MUST SUPPORT ALL REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES DIABLO or NOT!!
Many folks in the Illinois GOP say You MUST VOTE MARK KIRK because we MUST support candidates AFTER they win the Primary!!
OH REALLY?? Flash Back Feb 2009
News In Brief
A Republican Congressman Could Endorse a Democrat for Congress
Produced by City Room on Monday, February 02, 2009
A Republican congressman from Chicago ‘s north suburbs could be open to endorsing a Democratic candidate for Congress. Mark Kirk says he’s done a lot of work with State Representative John Fritchey of Chicago . Kirk laughed when asked if he’ll make an endorsement in the fifth district special election.
KIRK: I told him I would either condemn him or endorse him, which ever helps.
A spokesman for Fritchey says he’s glad the representative’s reputation as an effective legislator is widespread. He adds that Kirk and Fritchey would be on opposite sides of many issues if they serve together.
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Conservative Veteran, Northfield // Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 8:38 AM
St. Rep. Fritchey’s spokesman was incorrect when he said that Fritchey and Kirk would disagree about many issues. Kirk is pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay marriage, pro-illegal alien, and anti-Iraq surge. His latest rating from Planned Parenthood is 100%, and his latest rating from Gun Owners of America is 0%. In May 2007, 11 republican congressmen went to the White House and told then-President Bush that they opposed the Iraq surge, and Kirk was the group’s leader. Kirk is so liberal, he should run as a Democrat.
First, people are getting impatient. They feel they are not being heard in Washington, or by their local representatives. And they are broke, out of jobs, and depressed. They are having trouble knowing who to trust, who is telling the truth. All it takes is a couple of people who act disrespectfully, and the whole crowd becomes unglued.
Second: The Right wingers have sent out notices and planned for their people to infiltrate any gathering of Tea Partiers and work the crowd to become ignorant and aggressive. Again, all it takes is a few well placed individuals to stir things up and break down the patience of the crowd that would have been respectful.
As to the guy who turned off the mike, it is obvious he was fearful of what might turn ugly, but he was wrong to act as he did. I hope I am interpreting your post correctly, I was a bit confused about what actually happened myself.
I intended to send this to you...
Yeah I’m not surprised. Turning around IL politics is a monumental challenge and it has to start somewhere. Thanks for your efforts. Perhaps IL history will recognize you as the Rosa Parks of the political reformation someday. :-)
With all due respect Ms. Pulido, you ought to start your own Tea Party (Group) it belongs to everyone- and yet “no one” that’s the beauty of it; you don’t like what ONE group is doing START YOUR OWN!
Then ask tough questions and make these politcians from both (and smaller parties) accountable to the people.. (get creative) and though it may take a long time, if you do this and root them out, you will eventually win!
Randy Stufflebeam Constitution Party. He knows the Constitution forward and back. He is a 22 year Marine Veteran! The Illinois GOP is spending BIG DOLLARS trying to throw him OFF the ballot!
ABC 7 News did a piece on it this past week.
LOL!! Legal Immigration? Bill Brady wants to LEGALIZE 30 Million illegal aliens WHILE 25 million of YOUR fellow AMERICANS are OUT OF WORK and are losing their houses?
We need to stop any kind of immigration right now until OUR unemployment rate in the United States is at 3%.
Sorry, I stand up for my Fellow Americans who are suffering. NOT people who broke the law to come here now want to be legalized.
Hillbuzz has been moaning all summer about the Illinois GOP. They first encountered them as volunteers for Dems for McCain or whatever that thing was called. From all I can tell, they are every bit as corrupt as the Democrats, most of them.
Must be something in the water in Chicago. Disturbing.
We do not Need MORE legal immigration when 25 Million Americans are out of work!!
I have been invited to alot of Tea Parties to speak on illegal immigration. This is my speech from LAST WEEK, AUGUST 14th 2010
Doesn’t the First Amendment guarantee that the *government* cannot preclude anyone from saying or printing what they want?
If the people that put together the rally today didn’t like what you were saying over the microphone, or their stage, that they paid for, it’s got nothing to do with your freedom of speech. You have every right in the country to say whatever you want about illegal immigration, anywhere. Please, come to New Jersey, where I live, and talk about it! We have cities full of illegal immigrants. They overwhelm neighborhoods, schools, hospitals, and drive down prevailing wages.
But you may have to pay for your own microphone of leaflet printing, just like in Illinois.
You should probably go directly to the Illinois Tea Party blog or websites or newspaper comment lines to talk about it.
But it’s not an abolition of your “Freedom of Speech rights” if they don’t want you to speak at their rally about a position they disagree with. They paid for the mike and the stage.
It’s been co-oped by RINO’s and the Illinois Republican Party!!
These are all Tea Party Professing folks: CONSTITUTION? FREE SPEECH??
Ever heard of that??
I have heard of “free speach” - as have many.
Maybe you can point out to your readers - what - precisely - part of the local, state, or federal government is “the tea party” organizers of the shindig you attended? In what way was the Constitution disrespected?
Read the words. This has nothing to do with Constitutionally protected speach. maybe if you are this thoughtful and careful in you prepared remarks, they were correct to turn off the mic.
If you want to complain that it was impolite, or odd, or an error, or not cool in your opinion - go ahead. But please.
I get your point, BUT I never said it had anything to with local, state, or federal government
We have high unemployment because of Obama promoting and getting his version of a workers paradise, not because of legal Immigration. I would be happy with the feds stopping illegal immigration, but we can’t even get them to do that. Legal immigrants have at least one good thing on their side, that I really support. THE LAW
It is the way this politician is avoiding this issue. He is pushing for Amnesty, That would make them LEGAL. That’s the kind of LEGAL immigration he means.
He’s a COWARD. and it is NOT the WILL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!
I am trying to do my homework - and please don’t flame me - I am trying to figure out where the Renaissance PAC comes in to all of this mess. It seems the established IL-GOP is linked at the hip to the IL-DEMS in a cover-your-butt-protection scheme/partnership. Does the third party route have a snowball’s chance in Illinois?
Something is definitely not passing the something’s rotten smell test here...
“I was asked to come up to the microphone today and give a few words on whats going on with illegal immigration.”
But when they found that they didn’t like what you had to say, they cut off your microphone. Like Reagan you had something to say, you were invited then they shut you down. It’s no different from what the demomorons did to Rove and Coulter.
I’m just trying to connect-the-dots for those who seem to be proliferating here lately. Hang in there, chicagolady—it just wasn’t worth chewing through the straps on days like this when you find yourself casting pearls before swine...
“The democrats want the illegals to vote and not work; the republicans want the illegals to work and not vote.”
Unfortunatley, my friend, you’ve stumbled onto the great truth that no one in the power structure of either major political party cares one bit about the fate of the middle class American worker.
Ok, now it’s clear, yeah vote against him in November. And next time bring your own bull horn, if they try to take it away just yell “RAPE” at the top of your lungs through the bull horn, that will get them running.. lol
Many of us are, we filled up 40 years ago, there is no reason to accept unlimited population growth by importing millions of foreigners forever.
Outside of a little 20 or 50,000 or so for various reasons, we don't need to continue to fill up our space and destroy our culture with endless mass immigration.
There is more to our nation than simply work, housing , and feeding for a faceless, endless mass of foreigners with dual citizenship, do you want 100 million more, 300 million, 700 million, 1200 million? Personally I liked America at about 200 million.
Does a 3rd party have a Chance?
Well I have been out to lots of Tea Parties and I always get the same response. MARK KIRK SUCKS. The establishment is trying to shove him down our throats. I DO believe as far as this Senate race, There is a chance!
People Hate LYING Mark Kirk.
Renaissance PAC is run by Jack Roeser who ABSOLUTELY HATED MARK KIRK! He has his own radioshow and would talk about Mark Kirk LIKE A DOG!
NOW?? Jack Roeser sings MARK KIRK PRAISES from the mountain tops! Thats really all I know about it! And Jack Roeser is giving mega bucks to the Illinois GOP.
I am glad you know what you are talking about, I really don’t.
Sorry, You are correct, I guess I was thinking more in the Spirit of the law, Not the letter of the law.
But you are correct.
The guy who turned off the mike I have known a LONG time. We have gotten along well. Very well. The point is the minute I asked the voters to ask the candidate a question about his view on legalizing 30 million illegal aliens, it was considered bashing.
We cannot ask Republican candidates how would 30 million more people who came here illegally would befefit 25 million Americans who do not have jobs right now? Or you get the microphone turned off because a question was asked??
Do you remember when the GOP shut down Oberweis because of his illegal immigration stance when he ran for Senate in 04?
You can bet the elitists will find a way to take over the Tea Party.
ABSOLUTELY, and LAST weekend at the Barlett Tea Party Illinois State Rep Randy Ramey told the crowd he was introducing ARIZONA TYPE legislation to the General assembly when they go back.
That was 8-14-2010
THis past week Tom Cross Shut down the Bill Randy Ramey was gonna inroduce. Randy said this week Tom Cross shut him down.
Nothing I hear about thst part of the country can surprise me.
I’m also an IL conservative, rather fed up with both parties here. However, your 1st amendment freedom of speech does not guarantee your right to take over a microphone at a Republican political event and say what you please.
If you read ANY of the posts, We addressed this already.
I asked a question, I told voters to ask a question.
Say what ever I please? Our country is going down the tubes and our fellow Americans are out of work,asking a simple appropriate question is NOT the same as SAYING what ever I please.