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Ron Paulís Shocking Message To The Tea Party (Doesn't like today's rally) [Tinfoil Alert]
Digital Meeting Center ^ | August 28, 2010

Posted on 08/28/2010 1:55:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul has some surprising news for the Tea Party:

You’re being taken for a ride.

At least this is what many libertarians like Ron Paul believe when they see someone like Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin trying to lead the Tea Party at the “restoring honor” rally this weekend. In fact, Ron Paul believes, if you’re looking for real freedom, you should really go back to the core of the constitution and the bill of rights, which Beck and Palin do not fully endorse when you really look at their beliefs. Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars or Beck’s beliefs on paying the private Federal Reserve MORE interest on our money by means of a VAT tax.

Ron Paul believes in neither of the above.

Here was Ron Paul’s message to the Tea Party via The New York Times just the other day:

“As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.”

While the Tea Party will be out supporting Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin this weekend, you wonder how many of them will be in full support of more wars and paying more interest to a group of untouchable and unauditable private bankers otherwise known as the FED? This is precisely what Ron Paul is asking the American public to consider when looking at the Tea Party leaders and see if they really stand for what they believe in.

Ron Paul believes the Tea Party is not about “left” or “right” like a lot of political pundits make it out to be. It’s about the constitution, and limited government.


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I thought that lame-brain was in the service? What gives with all this Code Pink non-sense? What wars has Governor Palin started? So he's a fiscally conservative Cynthia McKinney?
1 posted on 08/28/2010 1:55:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul cannot resist letting us all remember just what a headcase he is. The guy is as loony as the day is long.


2 posted on 08/28/2010 1:57:50 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul is as fruity as a nut cake...a tall Ross Perot.


3 posted on 08/28/2010 1:57:50 PM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You’re being taken for a ride.

"And that's MY job!"

4 posted on 08/28/2010 1:58:12 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown. -- written by Robert Towne)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somebody’s cheese is sliding off their cracker.


5 posted on 08/28/2010 1:58:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I really wish ALL Pauls would just go away.


6 posted on 08/28/2010 1:58:41 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So he's a fiscally conservative Cynthia McKinney?

Oh, that calls for a Photoshop image if anything ever has...

7 posted on 08/28/2010 1:58:52 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have read Ron Paul's statement. It appears that out-of-touch doesn't only apply
to Obama and the Democrats.
8 posted on 08/28/2010 1:59:06 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; Virginia Ridgerunner; Brices Crossroads; Clyde5445
Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars

Paultard PING. ;)

9 posted on 08/28/2010 1:59:18 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Come on, Ron...your whining is starting to wear thin...


10 posted on 08/28/2010 1:59:56 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: FrankR
Ron Paul is as fruity as a nut cake...

I happen to like fruitcakes. Please don't demean them in that manner. They at least have something than can be swallowed.

11 posted on 08/28/2010 2:00:14 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: Darkwolf377

Exactly! How can I afford another blimp, 5 star hotels and an entourage if you’re giving your money to the Tea Party and Sarah Palin?


12 posted on 08/28/2010 2:01:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars or Beck’s beliefs on paying the private Federal Reserve MORE interest on our money by means of a VAT tax.

Huh?? I've never heard Beck advocate a VAT. Did I miss something?

13 posted on 08/28/2010 2:02:35 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe I just haven’t been reading enough threads, I don’t know. But it seems to me that the FR RP supporters have been somewhat silent and subdued lately.

Is it just me, or does it seem like RP’s severe mental retardation is now so obvious that some of the people around here who previously supported him are having second thoughts?

I could be wrong.


14 posted on 08/28/2010 2:04:20 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: FrankR
.a tall Ross Perot.

...and without the ears.

15 posted on 08/28/2010 2:04:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Waiting for the twisted defence logic spin bump.


16 posted on 08/28/2010 2:05:29 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: bigbob

ditto


17 posted on 08/28/2010 2:07:45 PM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wondered what all those loons in the media and in liberaltarian land were thinking when Glenn Beck started talking about returning to God. They’ve been trying to convince everyone that TEA Partiers don’t want God and don’t like social issues just because they are the Taxed Enough Already Party. As if social conservatism were not a part of conservatism and you can’t possibly have a social conservative who believes in limited government. I wonder how many of these people are going to continue to delude themselves.


18 posted on 08/28/2010 2:09:34 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Dr Paul were to comment on financial issues, I would listen. But this man is as wacky as a wounded partridge when it comes to social issues.


19 posted on 08/28/2010 2:11:50 PM PDT by crz
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To: samtheman

Part of it has to do with being between election cycles where he’s not campaigning. Some of it has to do with him not being “in the news” lately. And any number of them were zotted over the last election cycle, so their numbers are fewer.

But, make no mistake. They’re still around. I see names every once in a while. They’re just not that much for them to be obvious about...


20 posted on 08/28/2010 2:12:22 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
" ... while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined."

Obviously, Ron Numbnuts doesn't realize that we're at war whether we admit it or not.

I'm not sure that we don't need to raise the military budget rather than lowering it.

21 posted on 08/28/2010 2:12:34 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is already insane and sequestered on golf courses or vacations so you won't know it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Today’s rally was a completely non political rally. I don’t think I heard a word about taxes, spending, democrats or republicans. I did hear a lot about our need to restore our God to his rightfull place in our country and I did hear plenty about standing behind the men who have fought, are fighting, and will fight for our country.


22 posted on 08/28/2010 2:14:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no large conservative support for Ron. There are young people who support him, the same way Nader was supported by young people in 2000, and also the Alex Jones type of anti-NWO people support him. Liberals cover him when he’s saying something bad about our foreign policy to make the right look bad. Ron agrees with the liberals on a lot of things.


23 posted on 08/28/2010 2:14:36 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: freespirited

http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-we-need-a-2-vat-tax-to-fix-the-economy

2%, 10-yr max, and only via constitutional amendment.


24 posted on 08/28/2010 2:14:54 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Waryone

Liberals and Libertarians believe in opposite types of government (one for big and one for small) but they both believe in freedom (do anything with no moral bounds) while conservatives believe in liberty (freedom bound by morality based on wisdom). So under liberalism you will be arrested for having drugs, but they will go home and smoke dope. Libertarians believe in legalizing drugs and they will go home and smoke dope. In the end you will end up with a population hobbled by dope. I do not want to know what they do with alcohol.


25 posted on 08/28/2010 2:15:02 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Politics4US

Ron also lied during the primaries that he was very anti-illegal immigration. He saw Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo as the other third tier candidates, and wanted to get their votes. I haven’t heard him say anything about stopping illegal immigration since then, and he opposes the Az Law.


26 posted on 08/28/2010 2:19:24 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least the Patriots on the mall today have not been living off tax-payers for 35 years...while accomplishing NOTHING in Congress.

Move over RP, retire and make room for someone who can meet some goals.


27 posted on 08/28/2010 2:19:37 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Screw this jerk.

28 posted on 08/28/2010 2:20:06 PM PDT by rlmorel (America: Why should a product be deemed a failure if you ignore assembly and operation instructions?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...you should really go back to the core of the constitution and the bill of rights...”
Which was the natural political spawn of the Christian enlightenment.


29 posted on 08/28/2010 2:20:54 PM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

And say what you will about Perot, he did care for our military, and for our country.

Can’t say the same about Ron Paul.


30 posted on 08/28/2010 2:21:26 PM PDT by rlmorel (America: Why should a product be deemed a failure if you ignore assembly and operation instructions?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul is exactly correct. “The fact is that the average man’s love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty — and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.” H.L.Mencken
Baltimore Evening Sun (12 February 1923)


31 posted on 08/28/2010 2:22:17 PM PDT by anchorclankor (From the main part of Missouri)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This nitwit is insane.


32 posted on 08/28/2010 2:23:36 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cut and run is against anything that is pro-America. Now give him a mooseslime terrorist gathering and he would be all for it.


33 posted on 08/28/2010 2:24:33 PM PDT by John D
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars or Beck’s beliefs on paying the private Federal Reserve MORE interest on our money by means of a VAT tax.

Huh? What? Since when?

34 posted on 08/28/2010 2:27:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ron Paul needs to ride into the Mexican sunset and become a revolutionary; get his own army of bandits and live free.
35 posted on 08/28/2010 2:27:58 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If this is truly Paul's position, he's a useless tool.

;-/

36 posted on 08/28/2010 2:30:35 PM PDT by Gargantua (Imam Hussein O'Bunga, The Maricone Mecca Macacque)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t believe Beck has even once linked today’s event in D.C. to the Tea Party, which, in any case does not possess an organic identity (i.e., it is not a structured organization).


37 posted on 08/28/2010 2:31:03 PM PDT by Elsiejay (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul, the white Colin Ferguson.


38 posted on 08/28/2010 2:31:16 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: Elsiejay

Since when do jourbalists let facts get in their way?


39 posted on 08/28/2010 2:31:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: anchorclankor

He is exactly like the left on foreign policy.


40 posted on 08/28/2010 2:33:00 PM PDT by Politics4US
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's all about the Constitution all rght. And where does "Provide for the Common Defense" come from Ron? Paul seems to picture defense as America, the Alamo. I'd rather not be sitting here waiting for the enemy to gather its forces and make its move. We tried that in the 90's and it resulted in 9/11-- it didn't work out to well.
41 posted on 08/28/2010 2:34:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: FrankR
Ron Paul is as fruity as a nut cake...a tall Ross Perot.

IF Ross ran for President, again, I'd vote for him, again...

42 posted on 08/28/2010 2:35:16 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul may have renounced war in perpetuity but I’m afraid our enemies haven’t. I prefer to have a president who hasn’t renounced the threat of force against those who would attack us. Sarah Palin has not advocated to start any wars. This is the same garbage that was used against Barry Goldwater and Reagan and will be used anytime Republicans are considering a conservative presidential nominee.

It’s a weak president that gets us into wars. A president who sends mixed and confusing messages or wears his pacifism on his sleeve that prompts actions against us. Remember the 444 days of hostage taking in Iran that Jimmy Carter visited on us after he failed to support the Shah and allowed religious fanatics to gain power. If Obama keeps his promise and withdraws troops from Afghanistan in 2011, it will be seen as weakness and will invite attack. We need a president who will do what’s in the best interest of the US rather than what the UN or any foreign group wants.

Glen Beck isn’t going to run for any office, so who cares what positions he takes.


43 posted on 08/28/2010 2:36:23 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

44 posted on 08/28/2010 2:37:13 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: roses of sharon
...while accomplishing NOTHING in Congress.

I have been asking the paulbots about this for about a year. So far not one has been able to explain, other than "at least he is trying." The ONLY thing he has ever accomplished is getting as many earmarks through as possible.
45 posted on 08/28/2010 2:37:53 PM PDT by John D
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul doesn’t believe in honoring treaties made under the constitution. He constantly quotes George Washington’s farewell address remarks against more entangling alliances, but never quotes the very next sentence where Washington says we must honor the agreements we’ve already made.

Ron Paul is very good on domestic policy, but when it comes to foreign policy he’s a fanatical isolationist.


46 posted on 08/28/2010 2:46:02 PM PDT by devere
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars

What if the wars are just and necessary to protect our natural rights from external threats, which is one of the main purposes of government?

47 posted on 08/28/2010 2:47:06 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul is a loony tune. It’s all that support for legalizing marijuana that Libertarians espouse.


48 posted on 08/28/2010 2:47:10 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (IMPEACH Barry Dunham Soetoro aka Imam Barack Hussein Muhammad Obama!)
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To: samtheman

I think Paul’s supporters on FR have given up the ghost. I can understand why. The air around here is getting almost too foul, even for me.


49 posted on 08/28/2010 2:49:14 PM PDT by Misterioso (The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly.
I think a lot of people had prepared remarks before the event and they don’t fit with what actually took place. Paul’s comment certainly sounds that way.

Beck’s rally was a bit churchyfied for me, but overall it was a positive uplifting message and apolitical.


50 posted on 08/28/2010 2:52:16 PM PDT by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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