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Ron Paulís Shocking Message To The Tea Party (Doesn't like today's rally) [Tinfoil Alert]
Digital Meeting Center ^ | August 28, 2010

Posted on 08/28/2010 1:55:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul has some surprising news for the Tea Party:

You’re being taken for a ride.

At least this is what many libertarians like Ron Paul believe when they see someone like Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin trying to lead the Tea Party at the “restoring honor” rally this weekend. In fact, Ron Paul believes, if you’re looking for real freedom, you should really go back to the core of the constitution and the bill of rights, which Beck and Palin do not fully endorse when you really look at their beliefs. Whether it be Palin’s support for starting more wars or Beck’s beliefs on paying the private Federal Reserve MORE interest on our money by means of a VAT tax.

Ron Paul believes in neither of the above.

Here was Ron Paul’s message to the Tea Party via The New York Times just the other day:

“As many frustrated Americans who have joined the Tea Party realize, we cannot stand against big government at home while supporting it abroad. We cannot talk about fiscal responsibility while spending trillions on occupying and bullying the rest of the world. We cannot talk about the budget deficit and spiraling domestic spending without looking at the costs of maintaining an American empire of more than 700 military bases in more than 120 foreign countries. We cannot pat ourselves on the back for cutting a few thousand dollars from a nature preserve or an inner-city swimming pool at home while turning a blind eye to a Pentagon budget that nearly equals those of the rest of the world combined.”

While the Tea Party will be out supporting Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin this weekend, you wonder how many of them will be in full support of more wars and paying more interest to a group of untouchable and unauditable private bankers otherwise known as the FED? This is precisely what Ron Paul is asking the American public to consider when looking at the Tea Party leaders and see if they really stand for what they believe in.

Ron Paul believes the Tea Party is not about “left” or “right” like a lot of political pundits make it out to be. It’s about the constitution, and limited government.

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To: Lorianne
Beck’s rally was a bit churchyfied for me, but overall it was a positive uplifting message and apolitical.

Same here but I think the reason Glenn has hammered on the religion aspect for so long is to remind America that the call for freedom began in the colonial churches. For far too long Americans have been taught that politics was off limits in churches and that our founders wanted it that way. Its time we stop retreating on this sort of talk and speak openly and proudly of our faith or even our lack of it.

The event last night was really more for religious leaders as a means of encouraging them to openly confront the the socialist leaders of the new "moderate" churches. Men like Jim Wallis need to be exposed and discredited not only by Glenn Beck but by Rabbis, Pastors, and Fathers.

Simply stated its time to remember that our founders never sought to silence religion.

“It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”

George Washington

“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”

George Washington. [speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779]

"To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian"

George Washington. [May 2, 1778, at Valley Forge]

Is it necessary that any one should [ask], “Did General Washington avow himself to be a believer in Christianity?" As well may we question his patriotism, his heroic devotion to his country. His mottos were, "Deeds, not Words"; and, "For God and my Country."

Nelly Custis-Lewis (Washington’s adopted daughter) George Washington.
61 posted on 08/28/2010 3:29:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How can anybody trust libertarians when their favorite
“son” loads up legislation that he knows will pass and
gives the pork while giggling “I voted against it.”?


Shrimp boats Is Acomin
Their Sails are in sight.
Shrimp Boats is acomin
there will be dancing tonight.

** Ron Paul version.

Shrimp Boats is acomin
Their pork is in sight.
Shrimp Boats is acomin
They will be drugged up tonight.

62 posted on 08/28/2010 3:33:53 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who still listens to this douchebag midget?

63 posted on 08/28/2010 3:46:54 PM PDT by montag813 (
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To: cripplecreek

Good one! “ Somebody’s cheese is sliding off their cracker” never heard that one before:)

64 posted on 08/28/2010 3:46:59 PM PDT by texhenry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What kind of reception does Ron Paul get at Ft. Hood or other bases when he meets troops after saying they are overseas “bullying the rest of the world”? Or does he ever even visit troops?

65 posted on 08/28/2010 3:48:28 PM PDT by montag813 (
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To: Howie66
The guy is as loony as the day is long.Or 50 hoot owls.
66 posted on 08/28/2010 3:58:02 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: cripplecreek
"Somebody’s cheese is sliding off their cracker."

Good one! I haven't heard that one before. LOL!

67 posted on 08/28/2010 3:59:35 PM PDT by stumptalker
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To: Stentor


68 posted on 08/28/2010 4:01:10 PM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ron Paul does seem to have supporters who refuse to even try to make friends.

Ron Paul did not mention Sarah Palin.

All Ron Paul said was that 700 military bases are extremely expensive.

Ron Paul wasn’t critical of today’s DC event, that I can see.
But, unfortunately, he does have a good number of supporters that are.

69 posted on 08/28/2010 4:08:18 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s funny, I never heard Beck endorse the VAT tax and I never heard Sarah Palin endorse starting new wars and I have actually heard Beck complain about the Fed many times.

Ron Paul seems to get into a snit every time he thinks that he is losing ground with followers.

70 posted on 08/28/2010 4:08:18 PM PDT by Eva
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul was speaking from the Mothership, standing next to Looney Farrakhan.

71 posted on 08/28/2010 4:11:46 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this piece is INDEED from Ron Paul, if it is even accurate as to his thoughts and opinions, then I am no longer able to even grant him a modest pass for being a Constitutionalist.

As much as I have agreed with him as to the Federal Reserve malfeasance over decades, I can no longer tolerate his hyperbole and feigned devotion to the Constitution.

I understand the hatred of certain bankers and their ‘boss’ the NY Fed; I can understand how this hatred relates to certain country club RINO republicans like the two Bush presidents, the ruling class in particular.

But I cannot understand how he would say that the American military ‘bullies’ anyone as they are called into killing people and breaking things based on a response to previous aggression committed against Americans or strategic American interests, all supported by us in our name. To say that our military ‘bullies’ others is to say that we as Americans are bullies. We are nothing of the sort. We are tolerant compassionate charitable and hospitable to all those in need and who accept our charity without taking gross advantage of our good will.

I cannot understand how he would think that Sarah Palin (and I am not partial to her at all) wants “to start more wars” or how Glenn Beck supports a VAT. If Glenn Beck supports a VAT I would like to see a link of evidence because I have never seen it and I don’t believe he would ever support such a deceptive tax.

So again if this writeup is at all accurate of Ron Paul’s statements, then Ron Paul needs to go period.

72 posted on 08/28/2010 4:14:27 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: samtheman

I’m a FR RP supporter.

Over the course of the last 2 years, some, if not many, of his supporters have recognized that the tea party is a good thing and that they should support it. Both the tea party and Ron Paul believe in limited government.

Back in 2007 and 2008 Ron Paul picked up a significant number of antiwar types. Those people are not with the tea party and do not help Ron Paul. But I’m sure they’re egging on Ron Paul to speak on foreign policy matters as much as possible.

I personally think that we should consider spending less money on military bases around the world. I personally think that the federal government should be much much smaller. No need to focus too much on those things that most Republicans don’t agree with.

I do believe that Ron Paul would try harder than anyone to make the federal government smaller.

73 posted on 08/28/2010 4:15:06 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Politics4US

Ron Paul wants us out of the UN.

That is not what the left wants on foreign policy.

74 posted on 08/28/2010 4:19:08 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Hostage

Ron Paul only said the one quote in the middle of the article.
Ron Paul did not say anything about Palin or Beck.
The article was not written by Ron Paul.
Unfortunately for Ron Paul, he has some supporters who don’t like Republicans, or even the military.

75 posted on 08/28/2010 4:23:17 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Thank you. The Leftists will try to divide and conquer at every turn. We have to be careful of what we read and who is said to be behind what we read.

This article I am sure turned many people against Ron Paul just as many articles have in the past.

I don’t agree with Ron Paul on military matters but on most fiscal and Constitutional matters I agree with him and sometimes admire him as he represents conservative views.

76 posted on 08/28/2010 4:31:54 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Fee
Drugs were legal in the USA up until the turn of the 20th century. Our population was not "hobbled" by dope. What was true was that there were no gangs running drugs across the border, there was no drug crime because there was no money in it. Not until prohibition was repealed and the mafia started looking for something else to make money off of that was comparable to booze running did drugs start to become a problem.

As long as there are moralistic people in this country legalizing pot will not turn us into a nation of potheads, but it will get rid of the crime and hopefully the terrible unmoral war on drugs, which has taken a terrible toll on innocent citizens in the USA, both in property loss and in deaths of innocents and in the militarization of our police.

BTW, I am neither a libertarian nor a doper, and I will not be smoking pot, whether it is legal or not.

77 posted on 08/28/2010 4:56:55 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Hostage

I don’t know if it’s the leftists. It could be a sincere Ron Paul supporter. But there were antiwar Dems or antiwar leftists who started supporting Ron Paul back in 2007 and just love when he says anything which they can work into their criticisms of Republicans.

Ron Paul has the best track record of limited government. That’s what I care about. I happen to agree that we spend too much money on the military. But I don’t want to hear about it too much from Ron Paul. We all know about it already.

I want to hear Ron Paul praising the tea party. I want to hear Ron Paul talking about making the kinds of cuts that conservative Republicans want to make.

Most Ron Paul supporters should end up supporting someone like Palin rather than someone like Mitt Gingabee.

78 posted on 08/28/2010 5:07:01 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
I do believe that Ron Paul would try harder than anyone to make the federal government smaller.
I know he talks a very small-government talk but he also walks a very pro-Arab/pro-Muslim walk.

And there's nobody (repeat: nobody) on the planet more Big Government than an Arab Muslim.

So I don't trust RP on anything he says (repeat: anything).

79 posted on 08/28/2010 5:22:35 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: truthfreedom

I look deeper, much deeper into the problems than just out of control spending.

If I give my teenage son or daughter a monthly allowance and they each get a credit card on their own that I am on the hook for, and they spend like crazy, how effective will I be if I look stern and say “stop the spending!”. Especially if I keep paying the bills for them?

If I shutdown their allowance they might haul me into court for child abuse (analogous to a tax protestor to the IRS). If the current allowance is not enough to satisfy their spending greed, they will just charge more on their bank credit card (analogous to the Federal Reserve) for which they have made me liable.

So as much as I like Ron Paul’s admonitions about wastful government spending, ideals of limited government and so on, I never hear from him anything that brings a vision of doing something about it other than shut down the military, and I don’t agree with his military perspective.

The only concrete suggestions from Ron Paul that would have an effect are his proposals to audit and reform the Federal reserve including ending it.

The way to get limited government is get control of the wild teenager’s allowance (taxes) and credit card (Federal Reserve).

Ron Paul may have an answer how to wrest control back from the Federal reserve.

As for taxes, these folks have the superior solution by far:

80 posted on 08/28/2010 5:25:30 PM PDT by Hostage
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