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Election 2010: Younger voters not so eager this time
The Seattle Times ^ | August 28, 2010 | Jack Broom

Posted on 08/28/2010 11:18:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ben Anderstone will never forget the energy and optimism he felt surrounding President Obama's election in 2008 — the first year Anderstone could vote.

"In the weeks leading up to the election, my Facebook page was just completely lit up with politics and people debating the various positions on issues," said Anderstone, 20, of Tacoma. "It was an exciting time.

"But this year," he said, "I'm just not seeing that.... Now people are more inclined to talk about how broken and ineffective the system is."

Young voters flexed their political muscle in 2008, helping put Obama in the White House: Exit polls showed Obama drew 66 percent of voters under 30, compared with just 45 percent of voters 65 and older.

The 2008 election also marked the first time since 1992 that a majority of voting-age Americans under 30 turned out, according to the nonpartisan Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement (CIRCLE).

Getting those young voters back to the polls this year is critical for Democrats' hopes of hanging on to majorities in Congress, particularly in the Senate.

But with the economy struggling, U.S. troops still in Afghanistan and Iraq, domestic issues stalled amid partisan wrangling, and no presidential race at the top of the ballot, that won't be easy.

"It's not that I'm disappointed in Obama, but things haven't really improved much," said David Ruiz, 22, a Capitol Hill resident and University of Washington student.

"I'm sure young voters will rally again to back Obama for a second term (in 2012)," Ruiz said. "But I don't think there's a lot of attention this year."

Democrats have cause for concern: The party in power typically loses congressional seats in a midterm election, and Republicans are working to transform widespread anti-government sentiment into support for their candidates.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; Polls; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2010; congress; democrats; gotv; obama; senate; washington
"I'm sure young voters will rally again to back Obama for a second term (in 2012)," Ruiz said. "But I don't think there's a lot of attention this year."

I wouldn't bet the Toyota Prius on it, David.

1 posted on 08/28/2010 11:18:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
All young people know in life is voting and being crapped on as a result. No wonder Obama destroyed their will for democracy, was probably his plan.
2 posted on 08/28/2010 11:24:26 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Chump Obama promised "Change" and we got chump change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Now people are more inclined to talk about how broken and ineffective the system is.”

Stop lying pr*ck - the reason is The Imam is a Saudi mole who is destroying America. Idiots.

Effing TV and the media backed by Saudi money can brainwash these morons.


3 posted on 08/28/2010 11:24:57 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I wouldn’t bet the Toyota Prius on it, David.”

I dunno, but America is dying BECAUSE of the youths.
The young have had 20 years of Marxist propaganda
stuffed into their young skulls, and they have no clue about
what a real life is like. They are brain dead.
Read PJ’s DUmmie Funnies and you will understand.
They will rationalize Obozo’s failure and still vote for him.
As for the blacks, I won’t even say it. We all know.


4 posted on 08/28/2010 11:33:07 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I'm sure young voters will rally again to back Obama for a second term (in 2012)"

Not if the republicans are able to show you how much money you will be forced to fork over from this first term.

5 posted on 08/28/2010 11:46:52 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Election 2010: Younger voters not so eager this time"

I am guessing when Mom and Dad explained to the kids that due to all this Hope-n-Change® there would be no further hand outs and the kids would have to get a job to pay for their college and housing costs.

Its a good lesson for these kids to learn early. Elections have real life consequences.

Welcome to the Obamanation kiddies. You voted for it, now you reap the rewards.

Can you say: "Want some fries with that order sir?"

6 posted on 08/28/2010 11:54:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I’m sure young voters will rally again to back Obama for a second term (in 2012),” Ruiz said. “But I don’t think there’s a lot of attention this year.”

Ruiz is psycho indeed.

Wait until the get the tax bill the CommieCrate have waiting for them, if they should be lucky enough to have a job to pay taxes.

These kids are so spoiled, and expect everything to be handed to them. They are going to be a tad energized in 2012 to throw the CommieCrate criminals out.


7 posted on 08/28/2010 11:55:20 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you children want a great country for yourselves and for your children, you best dump the dummy, and face the fact that Obamao and the left have lied, deceived, cheated and mislead you. With a little luck, you might even grow up to understand the lunacy of PC, Multiculturalism, radical environmentalism, anti-Americanism and cultural revolution, if you don’t help leftism destroy us first.


8 posted on 08/29/2010 12:03:37 AM PDT by pallis
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To: AlexW

I read DU almost every day, and those who disclose their age in one way or another (mentioning the number of kids, or parents in their 80s, or their grad degree) not to mention those who just mention their age straight out -

they are like all in their 40s and 50s. I’ll be the average age of a Kossack or a DU poster is 45.


9 posted on 08/29/2010 12:03:58 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Years ago there was a test in the Weekly reader (remember that in school) Lib vs. Conservative - it was in the Jr. High School edition.

You took the test and it told you which you were. As we weren’t voting yet (this was in the 70’s in NY) the class was interested. We all took it and discussed the answers in class. One guy (One!) came out as conservative. Every single other teen was liberal, including me.

But I took the test home and asked my mom to answer the questions, and to my amazement she answered opposite me on every question - and explained why.

It turned out that she understood the ramifications of each question, and reasoned me through them. It took me years to realize that every single lib “touchy feely” point has strings and bands attached to it. You can’t feed everyone in the world without bankrupting yourself, for instance.

It’s part of an intelligent, logical process of living that high school kids really don’t understand yet. Sort of like how babies think you disappear under the blanket.

These kids all expected Obama to really change the world. Now they see how it is just not that easy. I think they got a rude awakening.


10 posted on 08/29/2010 12:26:21 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Persevero

My guess is because true libs are brain damaged adults.

Young people aren’t really liberal, they just have stars in their eyes, and don’t think things through properly.

“Everyone should get free health care and free food! Yes!” The older communists really do think people should be forced into jail to pay for the workers housing. The younger kids who start out lib just think there is a goose with golden eggs laying them down at the mint, and the money will come “from somewhere”.


11 posted on 08/29/2010 12:30:37 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Persevero

“I’ll be the average age of a Kossack or a DU poster is 45.”

Well, I have never been to DU. I do not have a condom to fit my computer.
Judging by the post that I see via DUmmie Funnies, I would have thought they were about 15.


12 posted on 08/29/2010 12:34:26 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW
Judging by the post that I see via DUmmie Funnies, I would have thought they were about 15.

DUmmie FUnnies? What's that?

13 posted on 08/29/2010 12:35:47 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Taking it to the next level with coupons)
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To: PJ-Comix

“DUmmie FUnnies? What’s that?”

Yea, well, if YOU don’t know, then it must be an illusion :P


14 posted on 08/29/2010 12:51:04 AM PDT by AlexW
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The smell of indefinite servitude.

Don’t worry kiddies, follow the adults...


15 posted on 08/29/2010 12:51:14 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: I still care

“Everyone should get free health care and free food! Yes!””

True, the GOALS of starry-eyed libs are often fine. Peace, everyone being well off, “justice,” everyone having good health care - the problem is they need to realize that these utopian ideals require the enslavement of themselves and their fellow man, and then they still don’t work.


16 posted on 08/29/2010 1:22:20 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: AlexW

DUmmie FUnnies is a thread posted here on FR, where the poster intersperses his comments with actual posts/comments from Democratic Underground.


17 posted on 08/29/2010 1:24:04 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Getting those young voters back to the polls this year is critical for Democrats' hopes...

Free concerts, free beer, free dope, free money.

It's gotta work better than the truth.

18 posted on 08/29/2010 1:28:04 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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To: Persevero

Are you implying people REALLY say that stuff? OMG


19 posted on 08/29/2010 1:28:49 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

“Are you implying people REALLY say that stuff? OMG”

Oh yes, direct quotes.

Every stereotype of a loony liberal is at DU, to the tenth power.

You can go read it yourself! People joke about having to take a shower afterward, but it doesn’t bother me.


20 posted on 08/29/2010 1:38:29 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The leftists authors at the Seattle source are pumping out all the common leftist propaganda about the coming election, yet ignore the reality exposed by their own sidebar comment.
Justin Bryant was the president of UW Campus Republicans during the 2008 election and cast his first presidential vote in 2008 for Republican John McCain. He has since become increasingly active in Republican politics and last year was president of University of Washington College Republicans.

The young voters who were suckered into voting Democrat in 2008 can clearly see the damage wrought by the Obama/Reid/Pelosi commie machine. Young high school and college graduates are suffering record unemployment, as are the minorities who were likewise suckered into voting for this communist disaster.

Young people are more likely to learn from their mistakes, especially when the negative effects hit them where it hurts, and hits them quickly, as this communist onslaught has. Those who can't bring themselves to vote for the opposite party will at least avoid showing up to lend further support for their previous disasterous attempt at Hope&Change.

21 posted on 08/29/2010 1:48:52 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Persevero

“DUmmie FUnnies is a thread posted here on FR,”

You may note that I am a charter member of DUmmie Funnies.
PJ and I were just ribbing each other :)


22 posted on 08/29/2010 2:15:44 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yah...well the brainless 18 year old Obamunists from 2008 are now struggling to eat in a dying economy and are awaking to the fact that they make an enormous error, and like many of their fellow citizens before them, will be voting with their pocketbooks this year, or just dropping out all together. There is no way many Obamunists will ever vote for a Republican for any office, and given the increasing problems caused by the Dhimmies, I believe many will sit the midterms out completely.

Definitely our gain.


23 posted on 08/29/2010 3:51:34 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A Prius is in David's plans just as soon as he receives his check from the Obama stash. What? No stash? Has to go find a job? Never mind.
24 posted on 08/29/2010 5:08:56 AM PDT by JPG (How much taxpayer $ did Mookie blow today?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The college crowd who voted for obama are the real losers - only they don’t know it yet. They will be graduating with student loan debt, no prospects for a decent job, no chance of getting ahead in the near future and a mandatory health insurance payment.


25 posted on 08/29/2010 5:12:32 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Now people are more inclined to talk about how broken and ineffective the system is."

Yep. Zero and the Dems broke it. Unfortunately, we had to pay for it.

My students are NOWHERE as energized (i.e., not at all) as they were in 2008. I began seeing this in 2009, when none of them knew about, or cared about, the stimulus, or health care, or anything other than electing Obama, and once he was in, they did their little liberal duty.

26 posted on 08/29/2010 5:22:02 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: AlexW
Being unemployed is a great reality check. The share of young people aged 16 to 24 who were employed this summer fell to 48.9 percent -- the lowest rate on record since 1948.

For whatever reason, the proportion of the 16-24 age group that was working or looking for work also dropped this summer to its lowest percentage on record -- 60.6 percent. That was 2.5 percentage points below the rate recorded in Juy 2009 and 17 percentage points below the peak of labor force participation for that age group in July 1989.

About 4.4 million youth were actively searching for work and considered unemployed in July this year. That produced a youth unemployment rate of 19.1 percent, the highest rate on record for the month.

27 posted on 08/29/2010 5:48:02 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jersey117
The college crowd who voted for obama are the real losers - only they don’t know it yet.

I've taught at the university level for almost 30 years. Most college-age adults are easily persuaded by poor arguments which strike at their emotions, probably because they haven't really thought through the issues carefully. However, once burned, they will turn with vengenence. Obama, being such a dolt, is creating a huge future generation of conservative voters.

28 posted on 08/29/2010 6:05:31 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Republican’s” aren't doing squat to get back the Legislature. It is Conservatives and angry independents who are taking charge, as well as providing enthusiasm for turning this incredible mess around.

“Republican’ts” are sitting on their asses as usual! They will be the next thing to go! Mark my words.

29 posted on 08/29/2010 6:15:34 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A young person can’t get laid by being excited about a Congressional candidate. It’s that simple.


30 posted on 08/29/2010 6:24:38 AM PDT by Crawdad (Obamacare will lead to back-alley physicals.)
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To: CommerceComet

I teach high school full time and am an adjunct at a community college part-time. I concur with your findings. Young people are often taken in by feel-good rhetoric- a function of lack of experience coupled with a desire to do good. The bad part is that experience is the best teacher, but a harsh one....


31 posted on 08/29/2010 6:32:23 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: LS

I spoke to a college freshman from Marquette last January. Bright girl, raised conservative Republican, works at her father’s dental practice summers and vacations. She said that she doubted her peers would even vote in the midterms and indicated that they were totally disengaged. OTOH, despite her father’s example and advice, she still dreams of medical school.

The students are simply not really capable of seeing ahead. Even adults seem to hang on to the past and believe that everything will be fine because all they have known is prosperity.

An adult liberal emphasized to me that this isn’t the Depression, as there are no soup lines. People just don’t understand that the soup lines are now nationalized with the electronic benefit cards and because the recipients can shop as before, at least for food, the soup lines are hidden from public view.

For other goods, the 2nd hand stores and flea markets are much more crowded.


32 posted on 08/29/2010 8:51:35 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal
I hear you, but as my wife says, "Where's the recession?" We're in southern OH where Dayton has experienced a 30% population loss in 30 years; saw FIVE major corporations move out in the last decade; and where entire sections of town that used to be major industries are just boarded up. But on the other hand, she says that all the restaurants are full, all the clothing stores are hoppin', including the high end ones. We were at DisneyLand two weeks ago, and the waitress in one place said they were down perhaps 25% "due to the locals not having any money." But it was at least an hour wait to get on any ride; "Blue Bayou" was booked until 2:30 to get a lunch reservation; and the "City Walk" was full of people buying.

So I don't know what to think. They are putting up a good half-dozen "mini-mansions" within two miles of us---all $700,000 to $1 million homes. Who'se buying them? If the answer is no one, why are they building them? And it's not foreigners---so where is the money coming from?

33 posted on 08/29/2010 11:16:23 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I don’t know.

I see similar economic activity in my rural area (no mini-mansions, though). We’re paying a lot more in property taxes and utilities and it will get worse.

I see both deflation of assets and inflation of consumables.

How much activity is credit cards and government-backed loans?


34 posted on 08/29/2010 12:17:30 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

People keep mentioning credit cards, but a) almost all indicators say that Americans are saving more, and b) even credit cards run out.


35 posted on 08/29/2010 1:04:07 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But this year," he said, "I'm just not seeing that.... Now people are more inclined to talk about how broken and ineffective the system is."

Sheep complain about broken and ineffective system after voting for wolves to run system.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

I'm beginning to think minimum voting age should be 30.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

36 posted on 08/29/2010 1:14:47 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: LS

I just don’t know. It does seem to not compute. How much of the government stats can we believe?

I do know for a fact that many of the younger voters do not want laboring jobs. They are demanding and unreliable employees. I hear this from various employers.

Do you have some ideas about what is really happening out there?


37 posted on 08/29/2010 2:42:06 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: The Comedian
I'm starting to agree with Robert A. Heinlein in his novel Starship Troopers that only veterans have the franchise and right to hold office.
38 posted on 08/29/2010 4:01:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm starting to agree with Robert A. Heinlein in his novel Starship Troopers that only veterans have the franchise and right to hold office

I read that when I was a teenager, and agreed with it immediately.

I haven't experienced anything that has caused me to change my mind.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

39 posted on 08/29/2010 4:18:42 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: reformedliberal

The kids haven’t yet faced true depression, or been in a position where if they don’t get a job they starve. Most can fall back on their parents. I know a 22 year old girl, accounting grad, out of Miami (OH) a great school, on the job market now two years. Now, maybe she won’t move, maybe she’s not at the top of her class-—but not long ago, an accountant out of Miami would have had a job instantly.


40 posted on 08/29/2010 6:20:49 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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