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Thank-you, Gloria Allred
American Thinker ^ | September 30, 2010 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/01/2010 12:13:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Gloria Allred may be doing Meg Whitman a favor with her ridiculous stunt accusing Meg Whitman of knowingly employing an illegal alien housekeeper. The story is so full of holes that it is transparently bogus, and will serve to discredit not just Allred and the housekeeper, but possibly Jerry Brown, California's Attorney General.

Hugh Hewitt, law professor, writer, and talk show host, had Gloria Allred on his radio program yesterday, and probed some of the major weaknesses in the case, and wrote about it on Townhall. First, he sums up the charges:

Turns out that Whitman had hired a housekeeper a few years back, after being provided all the necessary documents. Whitman was very serious about complying with the law as any CEO of a major public company ought to be, if only to protect the thousands and thousands of shareholders who cannot afford to have corporate leadership turn out to be law breakers.

Whitman was defrauded. The housekeeper lied. Many years later the housekeeper admitted her lies to Whitman, and Whitman dismissed her.

First the law. Don't believe me. Believe Erwin Chemerinsky, the very liberal dean of the University of California at Irvine Law School. After Allred's press conference I had Erwin on my radio program to state the law, which he did very quickly: Whitman had to fire the housekeeper or break the law.

Then he presents his interview:

She last attacked a Republican candidate for governor when he was leading the polls shortly before a vote when she launched a broadside against Arnold in August of 2003. Her client, Rhonda Miller, alleged sexual harassment. Miller's suit was dismissed.

I began my interview with Allred by asking her how that case turned out. Allred objected to the line of questioning.

I played Erwin's answer to my straightforward question and asked Allred if Erwin had stated the law correctly.. Allred objected to the line of questioning.

I asked Allred if she could state the law. She objected to this line of questioning.

Allred hung up on me when it became obvious that I simply wasn't going to allow her to repeat her allegations without establishing first a theory of the law under which Whitman could be understood to have done anything wrong.

In sum: the only parties to have done anything wrong were the housekeeper, who used false documents to deceive Whitman, the victim, and the employment agency Whitman used to hire a qualified worker. By the way, Whitman paid this housekeeper $23 an hour -- a wage rate at which one could certainly hire a qualified legal worker. The normal reason employers hire illegals is to pay lower wages than a legal worker could command.

Whitman did what the law required of her when she learned of the fraud perpetrated against her. She fired the maid. Allred's press conference featured the maid crying, as if she had been somehow abused.

Jerry Brown, as California AG, now has knowledge of a fraud perpetrated against a Californian. It is his responsibility to prosecute the law breakers - the maid and employment agency. If anything, the case reveals that he has failed to protect Californians attempting to obey the law from fraudsters.

There is more than a month remaining until the election. That is ample time to turn this spectacle back against those who have perpetrated it. Allred is a longtime Brown supporter and donor. Her unwillingness to answer the questions posed by Hugh Hewitt speaks volumes.

This sort of scam could work if timed a few days before the election. So why did Allred launch it prematurely? Probably because the night before her press conference, Whitman cleaned Brown's clock in his debate with Whitman, and it was necessary to change the subject.

Meg Whitman has the brains and savvy to turn this stunt around. And the money necessary to get her story out.


TOPICS: California; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: allred; backfire; backsplatter; ca2010; california; collateraldamage; gloriaallred; hewitt; hughhewitt; immigration; jerrybrown; megsmaid; megwhitman; rhondamiller; whitman
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1 posted on 10/01/2010 12:13:19 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Allred is gutter scum.


2 posted on 10/01/2010 12:18:08 AM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is a frivolous lawsuit and an in kind contribution.

Her license should be suspended and the Brown campaigned fined.

3 posted on 10/01/2010 12:19:53 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
B.A.C.K.F.I.R.E.!!

LOL. It doesnt get much better than THIS. These people are sooooo desperate, it is palpable. (is that the word??)

4 posted on 10/01/2010 12:31:23 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Worldwide Press Spin, Nov. 3rd? "America is RACIST(sic)". Take that to the bank. Ink already ready.)
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To: Enchante

Scutter Gum.


5 posted on 10/01/2010 12:31:52 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Worldwide Press Spin, Nov. 3rd? "America is RACIST(sic)". Take that to the bank. Ink already ready.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$23.00 an hour for a maid? That isn’t such a bad living. Well, I guess it might depend on the area. California probably more expensive then others.

Can we see Alred discredited? I’m not really interested in the story, Whitman and I know Brown is behind it but what else does one expect in their politics. I just want this sleazy lawyer gone. I’m tired of constantly seeing her pop up attached to some new sort of gutter lawsuit.


6 posted on 10/01/2010 12:31:55 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Alfred - a parasite - strives to suck the life out of another. America has too many parasites - like Obummer.


7 posted on 10/01/2010 12:42:40 AM PDT by hondact200 ( Lincoln Freed the Enslaved. Obama Enslaves the Free. Obama is Americas Greatest Threat)
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To: Soul Seeker

Jerry Brown is a whole lot smarter than to let Gloria Alred loose on such a flimsy charge.


8 posted on 10/01/2010 12:43:10 AM PDT by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL, wow! Allred is one sleazy old pig!


9 posted on 10/01/2010 12:47:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two points:

The timing of the smear campaign probably has less to do with the last debate and more to do with the debate on Univision, the Spanish network, that is scheduled for a few days from now. The idea is to put Whitman on the spot regarding illegal immigration issues.

Regarding the fake IDs presented by the housekeeper, it is interesting to note that federal law does not allow the employer to choose what documents are presented by the employee. There is a list of acceptable documents. Unless a document is clearly a fake, the employer can be sued for asking for additional proof that an employee is here legally and has the right to be employed in the U.S.


10 posted on 10/01/2010 1:13:10 AM PDT by Rybashka
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Allred, Brown and Grayson....3 peas in a pod.
11 posted on 10/01/2010 1:13:23 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
...is that the word??

Yup. Means "you can feel it".

12 posted on 10/01/2010 1:33:48 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Rybashka

Paying $23 per hour will probably get Whitman a lot of Hispanic votes. I’m sure it’ll get her a lot of Spanish applicants.

Wouldn’t it be cool if it could be proven that Allred had hired legal immigrants but only paid them minimum wage.


13 posted on 10/01/2010 1:40:08 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Never again will I hold my nose and vote for a rino.)
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To: norge

Perhaps Brown is not so smart after all.

You know what Savage says about liberalism...


14 posted on 10/01/2010 1:45:09 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; La Lydia; AuntB; ...

"Ayayay. Ai gets no money from dis scam? I musta got da worse lawyer in da US."

15 posted on 10/01/2010 1:54:22 AM PDT by Liz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Allred hung up on me when it became obvious that I simply wasn't going to allow her to repeat her allegations without establishing first a theory of the law under which Whitman could be understood to have done anything wrong.

True enough, but Hugh never let Allred make her case, which annoyed me. So I looked up her version on her website. Here is Allred's statement:

http://www.gloriaallred.com/CM/Media/GA.stmnt.9.30.10.pdf

Even if Allred's version of events is accurate, she appears to have no evidence that Whitman actually saw the 2003 letter from the Social Security Administration. Whitman's only mistake here seems to have been saying "We never received that letter" ("we" meaning Whitman and her husband) when she should have said "I never received that letter." Whitman's husband apparently did get the letter. He wrote "Nicky, please check this" on it, and gave it to the maid, Nicky Santillan. It sounds as though the husband decided that the government had made a mistake involving Santillan's Social Security number, and turned the matter over to Santillan to straighten out. Allred's other allegations are very thin: Santillan said that she saw other letters from the Social Security Administration in the trash, and said that she told Whitman that she (Santillan) could not travel out of the country.

It just does not add up to convincing evidence that Whitman knew that Santillan was an illegal immigrant.

Audio of Hewitt's interview with Allred:

http://townhall.com/MediaPlayer/AudioPlayer.aspx?ContentGuid=784c07c5-7d35-4d8a-af59-5f7ed76dafdd

Transcript of that interview

http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog/g/c7fb98f4-0782-472e-95a3-76715b95cee1

16 posted on 10/01/2010 2:12:27 AM PDT by TChad
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To: Soul Seeker

Nine hundred a week. I bet you can find plenty of Americans willing to work for that pay.


17 posted on 10/01/2010 2:12:50 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

yes Thank you you media whore. This just illustrates the kind of person you are.


18 posted on 10/01/2010 2:14:13 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She should be deported. Isn't she breaking the law?
19 posted on 10/01/2010 2:15:30 AM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
...”Her license should be suspended and the Brown campaigned fined”...

In a sane world and under a sane justice system, her license would be revoked. Civilized societies do not need this kind of deceit put upon the people.

20 posted on 10/01/2010 2:45:50 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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