Skip to comments.Thank-you, Gloria Allred
Posted on 10/01/2010 12:13:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Gloria Allred may be doing Meg Whitman a favor with her ridiculous stunt accusing Meg Whitman of knowingly employing an illegal alien housekeeper. The story is so full of holes that it is transparently bogus, and will serve to discredit not just Allred and the housekeeper, but possibly Jerry Brown, California's Attorney General.
Hugh Hewitt, law professor, writer, and talk show host, had Gloria Allred on his radio program yesterday, and probed some of the major weaknesses in the case, and wrote about it on Townhall. First, he sums up the charges:
Turns out that Whitman had hired a housekeeper a few years back, after being provided all the necessary documents. Whitman was very serious about complying with the law as any CEO of a major public company ought to be, if only to protect the thousands and thousands of shareholders who cannot afford to have corporate leadership turn out to be law breakers.
Whitman was defrauded. The housekeeper lied. Many years later the housekeeper admitted her lies to Whitman, and Whitman dismissed her.
First the law. Don't believe me. Believe Erwin Chemerinsky, the very liberal dean of the University of California at Irvine Law School. After Allred's press conference I had Erwin on my radio program to state the law, which he did very quickly: Whitman had to fire the housekeeper or break the law.
Then he presents his interview:
She last attacked a Republican candidate for governor when he was leading the polls shortly before a vote when she launched a broadside against Arnold in August of 2003. Her client, Rhonda Miller, alleged sexual harassment. Miller's suit was dismissed.
I began my interview with Allred by asking her how that case turned out. Allred objected to the line of questioning.
I played Erwin's answer to my straightforward question and asked Allred if Erwin had stated the law correctly.. Allred objected to the line of questioning.
I asked Allred if she could state the law. She objected to this line of questioning.
Allred hung up on me when it became obvious that I simply wasn't going to allow her to repeat her allegations without establishing first a theory of the law under which Whitman could be understood to have done anything wrong.
In sum: the only parties to have done anything wrong were the housekeeper, who used false documents to deceive Whitman, the victim, and the employment agency Whitman used to hire a qualified worker. By the way, Whitman paid this housekeeper $23 an hour -- a wage rate at which one could certainly hire a qualified legal worker. The normal reason employers hire illegals is to pay lower wages than a legal worker could command.
Whitman did what the law required of her when she learned of the fraud perpetrated against her. She fired the maid. Allred's press conference featured the maid crying, as if she had been somehow abused.
Jerry Brown, as California AG, now has knowledge of a fraud perpetrated against a Californian. It is his responsibility to prosecute the law breakers - the maid and employment agency. If anything, the case reveals that he has failed to protect Californians attempting to obey the law from fraudsters.
There is more than a month remaining until the election. That is ample time to turn this spectacle back against those who have perpetrated it. Allred is a longtime Brown supporter and donor. Her unwillingness to answer the questions posed by Hugh Hewitt speaks volumes.
This sort of scam could work if timed a few days before the election. So why did Allred launch it prematurely? Probably because the night before her press conference, Whitman cleaned Brown's clock in his debate with Whitman, and it was necessary to change the subject.
Meg Whitman has the brains and savvy to turn this stunt around. And the money necessary to get her story out.
Allred is gutter scum.
Her license should be suspended and the Brown campaigned fined.
LOL. It doesnt get much better than THIS. These people are sooooo desperate, it is palpable. (is that the word??)
$23.00 an hour for a maid? That isn’t such a bad living. Well, I guess it might depend on the area. California probably more expensive then others.
Can we see Alred discredited? I’m not really interested in the story, Whitman and I know Brown is behind it but what else does one expect in their politics. I just want this sleazy lawyer gone. I’m tired of constantly seeing her pop up attached to some new sort of gutter lawsuit.
Alfred - a parasite - strives to suck the life out of another. America has too many parasites - like Obummer.
Jerry Brown is a whole lot smarter than to let Gloria Alred loose on such a flimsy charge.
LOL, wow! Allred is one sleazy old pig!
The timing of the smear campaign probably has less to do with the last debate and more to do with the debate on Univision, the Spanish network, that is scheduled for a few days from now. The idea is to put Whitman on the spot regarding illegal immigration issues.
Regarding the fake IDs presented by the housekeeper, it is interesting to note that federal law does not allow the employer to choose what documents are presented by the employee. There is a list of acceptable documents. Unless a document is clearly a fake, the employer can be sued for asking for additional proof that an employee is here legally and has the right to be employed in the U.S.
Yup. Means "you can feel it".
Paying $23 per hour will probably get Whitman a lot of Hispanic votes. I’m sure it’ll get her a lot of Spanish applicants.
Wouldn’t it be cool if it could be proven that Allred had hired legal immigrants but only paid them minimum wage.
Perhaps Brown is not so smart after all.
You know what Savage says about liberalism...
"Ayayay. Ai gets no money from dis scam? I musta got da worse lawyer in da US."
True enough, but Hugh never let Allred make her case, which annoyed me. So I looked up her version on her website. Here is Allred's statement:
Even if Allred's version of events is accurate, she appears to have no evidence that Whitman actually saw the 2003 letter from the Social Security Administration. Whitman's only mistake here seems to have been saying "We never received that letter" ("we" meaning Whitman and her husband) when she should have said "I never received that letter." Whitman's husband apparently did get the letter. He wrote "Nicky, please check this" on it, and gave it to the maid, Nicky Santillan. It sounds as though the husband decided that the government had made a mistake involving Santillan's Social Security number, and turned the matter over to Santillan to straighten out. Allred's other allegations are very thin: Santillan said that she saw other letters from the Social Security Administration in the trash, and said that she told Whitman that she (Santillan) could not travel out of the country.
It just does not add up to convincing evidence that Whitman knew that Santillan was an illegal immigrant.
Audio of Hewitt's interview with Allred:
Transcript of that interview
Nine hundred a week. I bet you can find plenty of Americans willing to work for that pay.
yes Thank you you media whore. This just illustrates the kind of person you are.
In a sane world and under a sane justice system, her license would be revoked. Civilized societies do not need this kind of deceit put upon the people.
we can do a montage of all the times Allred used that IDENTICAL arm around the crying client.
seriously, someone in Calif. needs to file a bar complaint on that vermin.
If the Californians elect Brown, let them. The state is destined to go belly up.’
If they reelect Barbara Boxer, let them.
I personally, would be excited and honored to be able to vote for the person who started eBay...
I mean, this should be a no brainer election. Gov. Moombeam? ARe you people crazy?
Now how can we get Boxer out of there?
Allred should be facing some sort of punishment for this mess she created.
It isn’t her first time at bat and she should face some sort of penalty.
She hired through an agency. It is the agency's responsibility to check the docs and validate them. That is why the wage is so high -- the agency is getting a cut of that. I will bet that Whitman paid the agency directly, and the agency cut a check to the worker, after deducting fees for taxes, health insurance, and their cut. Whitman could have bought the contract from the agency with a large fee up front.
The last time I hired through an agency, the fee was around $8000 and the worker went to jail a month later. We worked with him through his incarceration, and he came back a year later. That was when we finished with the payments to the agency. The employee stayed less than a year, and he left on good terms with us. I'm still mad at the agency, however, and I will not use them again.
One can only cry “Wolf!” so many times before ears become deaf...
Since he is the sitting Attorney General of the state, this matter demonstrates his incompetence and coddling of scofflaws.
This is the perfect issue to be raised before a California election for governor.
Law-abiding citizens have been furious with their politicians for years for this irresponsible conduct with respect to illegals.
Let this election be a referendum on the most neglected law enforcement problem in America.
Let this election be about liberals like Jerry Brown who are responsible for turning one of America's strongest economic engines into an insolvent state headed for third-world status.
I’m thinking that Allred is bucking for a job in the administration. She’d fit right in.
I think Gloria did herself in.
Hey Gloria, it’s hard to fight the truth.
No kidding! A lot of the problems that Kalifornia is experiencing go back to the era of Gooberner Moonbeam. If Kalifornia elects that loon again they get exactly what they deserve. Absolutely suicidal behavior......
Does Allred ever litigate cases or does her legal career consist of no more than mugging for the cameras with poor, sobbing "victims" as props?
Shes crying because some mentioned ice...
Jerry Brown loves illegal aliens. Tie them around his neck. He has been derelict in his duty as attorney general.
"Want to put some ice on that, muchacha."
" Can't you fake more tears, you backward border-jumper?
How do you think we're gonna nail Whitman if you don't play your part?"
Still, it breaks my heart to see this brave woman cry knowing she was treated like a slave for $23 per hour. How can the rich is America be so cruel? Obviously you cant get Americans to work for $23 per hour in California. I bet they held a gun to this poor woman's head and kept her prisoner till they fired her.
We need Obama to step in and pardon this woman. Where is Arnold on this? How about Meg-cow Mccain? Rev Al? Jesse?
Soon Nicky will be able to go to college at taxpayer expense in CA, the new law just signed. maybe she will become a lawyer and work for the civil rights department so she can sue employers that fire illegals.
I love that picture, I should have reposted it with every ping comment, it’s worth a thousand :)
I love that picture, its worth a thousand .......
I was torn between that one and this (/snic).
"Donna worry, latinos, dis suckah lawyer gonna gets me beeg bucks
from dis Meg. We gonna gets our self-esteem back, a dolluh at a time."
Sniffle......I'm all broke up about it, myself (sob).
The first picture with the tissue is better of the two with Allred leaning over to comfort her. You can imagine them practicing it with a director and script-writer in private (as all trial lawyers do with their clients) and getting those special prescription eye-drops that make you tear. Or maybe Bill Clinton gave them some tips on that, he could tear on cue within seconds.
And if this is true, then it is further evidence that the Whitmans did not know she was illegal. Because, if they did know she was illegal, there would be no point at all in telling the maid to check into the matter.
Heck, you don't need any special eye-drops to make you tear up. I made the mistake of wiping my eyes with a napkin that I had used to clean my fingers after eating several whole jalapenoes ...
... I thought that my eyes would NEVER stop watering ...
The picture with the tissue is better of the two with Allred leaning over to comfort her. You can imagine them practicing it with a director and script-writer in private (as all trial lawyers do with their clients) and getting those special prescription eye-drops that make you tear. Or maybe Bill Clinton gave them some tips on that, he could tear on cue within seconds.
But the ##smug, ##self-##satisfied look on Allred'$ fa$ce in thi$ one i$ pricele$$.
I discounted her eating peppers because of her background (she may be used to hot food) but didn't think of lacing the fingers with pepper. Better yet, lace the hankerchief so the more you wipe the more you cry.
I don't work with trial lawyers so this is new to me.
I guess she is a piece of chicken droppings.....
Meg could get couple million votes from this pic alone.
Tout Hollywood will vote for Meg. They all have latino help---and fear Allred will come after them next, ROTFL.
$23/hr is a very, very good wage in most parts of the country....I think LPNs start out about there....
Yes, she certainly does. However, never, ever, underestimate the power of stupid people voting in large numbers...