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Pro: Clinton’s the only Democrat who can win in 2012
Gazette Xtra ^ | October 23, 2010 | Bogdan Kipling

Posted on 10/23/2010 5:36:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

EDITOR’S NOTE: The writer is addressing the question, Should Hillary Clinton challenge President Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2012?

The latest buzz flitting among the Georgetown salons is that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will switch jobs with Vice President Joe Biden and take his place on the Democratic ticket in 2012.

That’s one of the tidbits being peddled by Bob Woodward to promote his new book “Obama’s Wars” and it has Democratic loyalists desperate to salvage a rapidly failing Obama presidency atwitter with unbridled joy.

As a rumor, it’s intriguing. As common sense, it doesn’t pass Logic 101.

Why, after all, would the world’s top diplomat want to chug from John Nance Garner’s “warm bucket” when she could be sipping a Pimm’s Cup in the Oval Office on Jan. 20, 2013? With the economy unlikely to have recovered the Clinton-era glow of the 1990s, it’s far more likely that Hillary will challenge Obama at the start of 2012. If she does, that smart money in the Democratic Party will flow into her coffers like water rushing over the Hoover Dam.

Ah, but what about Woodward’s prediction that Hillary will be a good team player and wait until she is 71 to make a 2016 quest for the Oval Office? Throughout the years since he chronicled the Watergate scandal with Washington Post colleague Carl Bernstein, Woodward has been a font of delicious speculations—not all of them based in reality.

Be that as it may, there’s good reason to view Woodward’s forecast of Hillary as veep as a mere throwaway line—designed to create a momentary sensation.

Anyone who knows the Clintons well knows they have no love lost for either Barack or Michelle Obama. Both believe they were outmaneuvered by the Illinois upstart in the Democratic primaries because they received terrible advice from top campaign aides, including several they now believe were moles for Obama.

In truth, only Hillary’s belief in her “grand destiny” allowed her to accept the secretary of state offer from Obama—a stripped-down post considering the president had already named four special envoys to the Middle East, America’s key area of foreign policy concern. Her acceptance also relegated Bill Clinton to a quiet corner of the public stage—rendered all but mute in voicing any criticism of the Obama White House.

There is every reason to believe that the Clintons will deliver a comeuppance to the Obamas in 2012. By that time, both will look like eminence grises after the amateurish performance of Obama and his buffoonish advisers during his first term.

The dozens of Democratic senators and House members now fleeing any association with the administration’s disastrous health-care and stimulus bills are unlikely to return to the fold. Many, indeed, already are urging the Clintons to reclaim their party before it is destroyed by Obama’s rigid ultra-left ideology.

A longtime Clinton insider says the couple are prepared to move their governing philosophy even more to the moderate center than they did after the sweeping Republican gains in the 1994 congressional mid-term elections.

“The Clintons may have started out as ideologues,” she said, “but they quickly realized that pragmatism is the true art of successful politics, and they have been constantly fine-tuning their political philosophies.”

The woman, a close friend of the Clintons for more than four decades, also pointed out another reason Hillary can’t wait until 2016.

“The constant travel and the never-ending demands of the secretary of state’s office are taking a devastating toll on her,” she said. “She turns 63 this month, but she’s starting to look more like 70 although she’s in excellent physical health.”

Here’s betting Hillary will look years younger and be all smiles when she delivers her inaugural address from the west steps of the Capitol in early 2013.

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Bogdan Kipling is a Canadian columnist based in Washington. Readers may write to him in care of the National Press Club, 13th Floor, 529 14th Street NW, Washington, D.C. 20045, or e-mail him at kipling.news@verizon.net.


TOPICS: Arkansas; Illinois; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; hillary; obama
Oh, there'll be a female delivering the inaugural adress in early 2013, but it won't be Hillary!
1 posted on 10/23/2010 5:36:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Oh, there’ll be a female delivering the inaugural adress in early 2013, but it won’t be Hillary!”

Amen to that!


2 posted on 10/23/2010 5:39:28 PM PDT by DemforBush (You might think that, *I* could not possibly comment.)
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To: DemforBush

Their debate would be a visually distinct disadvantage for Hillary.


3 posted on 10/23/2010 5:45:17 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And so it begins....

First, His worshipfullness is going nowhere. If they managed to pry him off the 2012 ticket 90% of the blacks would go nuts and vote GOP out of spite or stay home. The ‘rats categorically can’t win the white house without the African American vote.

Second, Hillary! is not what this country wants. They chose Obama because even the ‘rats are sick of the Clintons. She is also damaged by being so closely tied to Obama.


4 posted on 10/23/2010 5:46:52 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You betcha!
5 posted on 10/23/2010 5:48:19 PM PDT by JPG (Sarah Palin says: "Buck-up or get out of the truck.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not without the African-American vote. IMHO, Obama doesn't run for re-election in 2012 because "we" just don't get it and he's too good for us. The blacks will also stay home.

He'll spend the rest of his life making millions for reading 5 minute speeches off teleprompters at liberal universities slamming the racist, stupid, public that just didn't appreciate him.

6 posted on 10/23/2010 5:51:05 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Palin. I cannot spare this woman. She fights!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the Hildabeast runs an ad running her "I'm a Progressive" sound bite over and over will do the trick.. Shes proudly a progressive and Glen Beck has been and may continue to totally eviscerate the progressives..

Theres is much more that can be said about being a "progressive".. Many tacts to take and tactics to air concerning the progressives..

IF THEY RUN Hillary.. it might be easier than if they run Zero...
The democrat and republican female ditz's can be reached..

7 posted on 10/23/2010 5:59:39 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know she plans on running because she’s letting her hair grow. As many times as she denies it now and in the future, she will run again. The NWO puppet masters have decided it is her turn to “govern” this too-independent-for-its-own-good nation.


8 posted on 10/23/2010 6:00:17 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: CaptainK

The Imam is guaranteeing the destruction of the RAT party.


9 posted on 10/23/2010 6:01:04 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (YEAH, I ALREADY VOTED TO CLEAN THE SEWER!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Grizzly Rising.


10 posted on 10/23/2010 6:03:49 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh man! I’d love to see Bammies ego crushed by being passed over for Hillary at the convention.


11 posted on 10/23/2010 6:05:50 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Note: If Hillary Clinton challenges Obama for the nomination, historically it means doom for the party, the opposing party wins

Whenever there is an insurgent challenge against an incumbent President, the party is in so disarray, the President is so weaken further and the party cannot heal deep the wounds in time to organize for a victory

1. 1968 - LBJ knew what was going to happen, he was going to be challenged heavily so he quit before it happen, despite that the party was still in turmoil with doves vs LBJ’s hawks, he was weak and the Dems fell apart

2. 1980 - Carter was further weaken even though he held off Ted Kennedy’s challenge in the primaries. Despite this, Kennedy refused to drop out, and the 1980 Democratic National Convention was one of the nastiest on record. Of course the economy was the main factor for Carters defeat to Reagan, but the disarray in the party didn’t help

3.1992 - Although Pat Buchanan didn’t seriously challenge Bush, it was none the less weakening for Bush


12 posted on 10/23/2010 6:09:23 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Mad_as_heck
Ding Dong the Witch is dead.

Anybody have a link to the video where the Hildabeast is speaking terrible Ebonics at that black church?

13 posted on 10/23/2010 6:56:20 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"A longtime Clinton insider says the couple are prepared to move their governing philosophy even more to the moderate center than they did after the sweeping Republican gains in the 1994 congressional mid-term elections."

Yeah sure. The Clinton's are really, really "moderates." That's a laugh. Hillary Clinton is finished in elective politics. Chances of being elected in 2012, 2016 --- Zero! Hillary will be 70 years of age in 2016. No one will want to see an old shrew like her as President. And Palin will oust Obama and his marxist crazies from White House in 2012.

14 posted on 10/23/2010 7:04:15 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Mad_as_heck

2012 ticket 90% of the blacks would go nuts and vote GOP out of spite or stay home.


Not a single black that didn’t vote in ‘04 will vote in ‘12 if Zero isn’t on the ticket.


15 posted on 10/23/2010 7:08:51 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go ahead, Dems....run her. Then we will be rid of you bastards for good.


16 posted on 10/23/2010 7:08:55 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I hope no one forgets that Hillary Rodman Alinsky tried to shove HillaryCare down our throats, and it was just as bad as Obama Care. She has never renounced that, she only said that she tried for too much, too fast.

I'll never forget that HillaryCare was first outed by a female reporter from New Republic magazine, of all places. She read the whole bill, and discovered that doctors and patients who tried to go outside her system were subject to bribery charges, fines and imprisonment.

Don't be fooled. She's a mega-control freak of the worst order, just like Obama.

17 posted on 10/23/2010 7:10:19 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: txhurl

What are you smoking?


18 posted on 10/23/2010 7:26:25 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: All

The longer Hillary stays in the 0bama administration the worse her chances are in becoming president in 2012 or any year for that matter. Personally I think it is too late for her anyway no matter what she does.


19 posted on 10/23/2010 7:49:59 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: txhurl
"not a single black"

A certain small percentage would still vote, but the numbers would be way down from 2008. A great many would stay home or even vote for the Republican. Which would effectively kill any chance of Hillary getting elected.

20 posted on 10/23/2010 9:00:03 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I could go no further when I read “Georgetown salons”. What are they bordellos? :)


21 posted on 10/23/2010 9:00:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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