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The next Ron Paul, and/or the anti-Palin (Politico at it, again!)
The Politico ^ | November 5, 2010 | Ben Smith

Posted on 11/05/2010 10:01:48 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Ben Birnbaum writes that former New Mexico Gary Johnson looks set to inherit the small, entertaining Republican primary space occupied by Ron Paul.

He also seems set to occupy another space: The anti-Palin. There's a substantial minority of Republicans who don't like her, and with the rest of the field terrified of giving offense, it's a niche that will get him attention and some fans:

What does Johnson make of Palin? On a drive through the foothills of New Hampshire, I ask him. Riding shotgun, he turns the question around on me. “Um, I guess some people think she’s folksy,” I say from the backseat.

“Well, at first she strikes you as folksy,” he shoots back. “And then you realize: She might be running for president of the United States! And then, don’t we have the obligation to tell her what a terrible idea that is?”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: New Mexico; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; garyjohnson; marijuana; palin; paulestinians; pdsfoundhere; ronpaul; rontards; sarahpalin; whenpaulbotsattack
Who? So they need to "manufacture" an anti-Palin since none exists?
1 posted on 11/05/2010 10:01:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The right needs to ignore Politico. It is a Democrat propaganda organization that probably 80% of the country doesn’t even know exists. Don’t go to their website, don’t spread their links, pretend like they do not exist.


2 posted on 11/05/2010 10:07:50 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Politico again goes after another crap B/S story.

Maybe it’s high time for us to get protesting outside these biased media outlets HQ’s and demand that they do their job instead of being hacks for the far left.

Wonder how ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, etc would feel if thousands protested outside their HQ’s every day and did a boycott of their advertisers and stations?


3 posted on 11/05/2010 10:09:26 AM PDT by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder as is liberalism. Anyone supporting this needs mental help)
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To: ilgipper

nail on head

always gets me when we read on here or hear about MSNBC and yet we still have those same people going to their channel or buying their rag of a paper or visiting their website.

All they’re doing is adding to their viewership, etc

Just stop going there, stop buying their rags, and stop going to their channels.
Tell friends family neighbors etc

It is the biased media who are destroying this country by helping the far left


4 posted on 11/05/2010 10:11:43 AM PDT by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder as is liberalism. Anyone supporting this needs mental help)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t this the open-borders guv?


5 posted on 11/05/2010 10:13:59 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I met Gary Johnson in Iowa City in September. He is a one issue candidate, recreational drug legalization.


6 posted on 11/05/2010 10:15:27 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More evidence that President Palin is inevitable.

The Left would have no need for an "anti-Palin" if it wasn't.

7 posted on 11/05/2010 10:15:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boy, isn’t that the truth.

We have seen that problem here at FreeRepublic in spades with the Ron Paul supporters.


8 posted on 11/05/2010 10:15:51 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People need to get through their heads that Sarah Palin is unelectable. She hasn’t even been able to deliver her proxy candidate in her home state, and her negatives nationwide are insurmountable. Let her yak and make money, but she simply can’t position herself as the leader of the free world. Sorry.


9 posted on 11/05/2010 10:26:27 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

Oh, did they call the Alaska senate race? I hadn’t heard that...


10 posted on 11/05/2010 10:30:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve seen this guy Johnson on TV. He’s a libertarian stoner. Looks and talks like your typical pothead.


11 posted on 11/05/2010 10:45:34 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: stormer
People need to get through their heads that Sarah Palin is unelectable. She hasn’t even been able to deliver her proxy candidate in her home state, and her negatives nationwide are insurmountable. Let her yak and make money, but she simply can’t position herself as the leader of the free world. Sorry.

And Ronald Reagan, just before he got elected in 1980 was unelectable as well, given his negatives in polling.

What's your point Karl Rove?
12 posted on 11/05/2010 10:46:00 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You haven’t heard of Johnson? He’s the two term New Mexico govenror and champion of the second amendment. Unlike that OTHER governor, he didn’t wimp out and resign and also unlike that other governor he consistently cut taxes.


13 posted on 11/05/2010 10:48:09 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: nhwingut
He's a libertarian stoner.

You seem to be nanny state Republican. Do you also want to ban smoking in cars and on beaches? Probably so.

14 posted on 11/05/2010 10:51:04 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: iowamark
I met Gary Johnson in Iowa City in September. He is a one issue candidate, recreational drug legalization.

Tell me another one. Unlike Paln, he actually did something to reduce small government: slashed taxes, slashed spending, and vetoed successive gun control laws while governor. He also didn't resign because he couldn't handle the heat but fought the good fight for two terms.

15 posted on 11/05/2010 10:53:48 AM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are you telling me that you think Miller will prevail? Not likely. Palin hasn’t done anybody any favors in this election cycle - the majority in the House was going to flip regardless, and support in the primaries for O’Donnell, McMahon, Angle, Whitman, and Miller cost the Rs the Senate.


16 posted on 11/05/2010 10:57:56 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Captain Kirk
Tell me another one. Unlike Paln, he actually did something to reduce small government: slashed taxes, slashed spending, and vetoed successive gun control laws while governor. He also didn't resign because he couldn't handle the heat but fought the good fight for two terms.

Hey Space Cadet, before you post an assinine opinion, you might want to research if what you are saying is true.

Try researching Palin's record as Mayor and Governor next time.

You'll find there are ample examples of Palin reducing the size of government, slashing spending and behaving as a limited-government Govenor.

Don't be a JackAss Captain!
17 posted on 11/05/2010 10:59:14 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Captain Kirk; onyx; Josh Painter

So unlike that “other” governor he didn’t have multiple bogus ethics complaints and lawsuits filed against him on a daily basis, and therefore wasn’t about to be personally bankrupted? Good to know!


18 posted on 11/05/2010 10:59:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: stormer; 2ndDivisionVet
18 of whom

So the majority of the 20(18 of whom won their elections) house members she most vocally supported and endorsed, Nikki Haley, Rand Paul, Susanna Martinez mean nothing to you and they would have won anyway?

Most, if not all, of these candidates jumped in the polls and in fundraising in the primaries when she endorsed them.

Most of them had hard-fought primary and general elections.

Noting you said in that post was true or based in facts.
19 posted on 11/05/2010 11:02:56 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: stormer

Whitman? Meg? LOL.
For Governor of CA!

You don’t know anything about Sarah Palin’s endorsements or her record. Hers was the best by far and even praised by ABC.


20 posted on 11/05/2010 11:11:23 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Nonsense. Reagan barely lost the nomination in ‘76 to incumbent Gerry Ford, and in 1980 got over 50% of votes in a race that had a strong 3rd part contender. This whole meme about Reagan’s unpopularity is a myth. It wasn’t until after he was elected that his popularity took a dive. In November of 82, Reagan’s job disapproval rating was 47%, the same as Obama’s is today.


21 posted on 11/05/2010 11:11:50 AM PDT by stormer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t waste your time arguing with a 1%er....lol.


22 posted on 11/05/2010 11:12:16 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: SoConPubbie; Al B.

You’e right, of course, but I don’t have time today to find the information for you.

I am busy with the FReepaton. Al B posted a poll about RWR and Carter. If I have time I will try to find it.


23 posted on 11/05/2010 11:15:28 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx; SoConPubbie
Harris Poll January 29, 1980:

CARTER NOW FAR AHEAD OF BOTH REAGAN AND BUSH

"President Carter so dominates the American political scene now that his margin over Ronald Reagan in a post-Iowa trial heat has risen to an overwhelming 65-31 percent."

Also, Time magazine ran a big story in March of that year basically saying Reagan was unelectable. Gallup had a poll in that time frame with Reagan down 25 points.

24 posted on 11/05/2010 11:26:39 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: onyx

That’s why they they call it “dope” — it kills brain cells.

- JP


25 posted on 11/05/2010 11:30:00 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("May we always be happy, and may our enemies know it." - Sarah Palin)
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To: SoConPubbie

Doctor McCoy, please report to sick bay. The captain thinks he’s a Ronulan.

- JP


26 posted on 11/05/2010 11:33:30 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("May we always be happy, and may our enemies know it." - Sarah Palin)
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To: Al B.; SoConPubbie; stormer

THANK YOU, THANK YOU!
You’re the best, Al B.!

How about the facts, there stormer?


27 posted on 11/05/2010 11:33:39 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Josh Painter

ROFL.


28 posted on 11/05/2010 11:34:34 AM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: onyx

Being down in the polls doesn’t equate to being unelectable (despite what you believe from Time Magazine), unfavorables do.


29 posted on 11/05/2010 11:57:10 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
and support in the primaries for O’Donnell, McMahon, Angle, Whitman, and Miller cost the Rs the Senate.

I don't know where you are grabbing your political information.

Palin did not support Angle or Whitman in the primaries, nor McMahon as far as I know, she did not support Whitman in the general either.

Palin did give us quite a group of winners, I am confused by how Joe Miller costs us the Senate though, either he wins and things improve, or Murkowski wins and things stay the same, the democrat is not in the running.

Really, in your list you only have O'Donnell and Miller, Jim DeMint also endorsed O'Donnell, and Bob Dole, and Mitt Romney, endorsed her for the general, Senator Lamar Alexander campaigned for her. Joe Miller got endorsements from Senators Jim Inholfe, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, NRSC Chairman John Cornyn

30 posted on 11/05/2010 12:32:01 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SoConPubbie

Space Cadet? Boy, your first relex is to take the low road isn’t it? Let’s get back to specifics. Please provide examples of where Palin reduced the size of government in these positions.


31 posted on 11/05/2010 12:33:52 PM PDT by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Al B.; stormer
Nonsense. Reagan barely lost the nomination in ‘76 to incumbent Gerry Ford, and in 1980 got over 50% of votes in a race that had a strong 3rd part contender. This whole meme about Reagan’s unpopularity is a myth. It wasn’t until after he was elected that his popularity took a dive. In November of 82, Reagan’s job disapproval rating was 47%, the same as Obama’s is today.

Stormer,

You want to revise your earlier comments or just keep blathering about something you know nothing about?
32 posted on 11/05/2010 2:23:33 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Captain Kirk
Space Cadet? Boy, your first relex is to take the low road isn’t it? Let’s get back to specifics. Please provide examples of where Palin reduced the size of government in these positions.

For someone whose posted opinions about Palin, much like the one on this thread, are mostly snarking unobjective, and lacking in facts, that statement of yours is equal parts laughable and hypocritical.
33 posted on 11/05/2010 2:25:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: stormer

More than half of Sarah’s candidates won their races. You are just another hater.


34 posted on 11/05/2010 4:37:19 PM PDT by Sarabaracuda (McCain, Rubio, Fiorina, Perry, Branstad, Haley 2010 = Sarah 2012)
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To: Sarabaracuda

35 posted on 11/05/2010 4:47:33 PM PDT by stormer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Gary left his oxygen mask off too long on Mt. Everest.


36 posted on 11/05/2010 4:49:30 PM PDT by CedarDave (Juan Williams to NPR: "You and your far left-wing mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? ")
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To: stormer

Keep acting like a child instead of addressing the facts in our posts. Moron.


37 posted on 11/06/2010 1:56:14 AM PDT by Sarabaracuda (McCain, Rubio, Fiorina, Perry, Branstad, Haley 2010 = Sarah 2012)
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To: SoConPubbie

Other than being a conservative Palin has nothing in common with Reagan. She doesn’t compare to him at all.

She’s the current conservative darling and unelectable. She deserves much praise, but she’ll lose a presidential run against Obama or Hilary.

Remember Gore almost beat Bush. You have to think match up because that’s how the voters think. They simply compare two products.


38 posted on 11/06/2010 2:07:50 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are many anti-Palins. We call them liberals.


39 posted on 11/06/2010 2:10:58 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: SoConPubbie

There is a difference between having strong opinions, and focusing on the arguments of an opponent, and pounding fists on the table and calling names. Heck, I never took the debate but even I realize that.


40 posted on 11/08/2010 7:30:23 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: SoConPubbie

Now that we’re (hopefully) past the personal pissing match, let’s get back to the question at hand. Given a specific example of where Palin implemented a program to reduce the size of government while in office.


41 posted on 11/08/2010 10:45:30 AM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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