Skip to comments.Palin, blueblood-bashing and Mitt Romney (Bushes endorse Myth)
Posted on 11/24/2010 12:54:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin wasted little time firing back at Barbara Bush, who used an interview with Larry King early this week to express her hope that Palin will stay in Alaska.
"I think the majority of Americans don't want to put up with the blue bloods," Palin said on Laura Ingraham's radio show on Wednesday. "And I say it with all due respect because I love the Bushes. The blue bloods who want to pick and choose their winners instead of allowing competition to pick and choose the winners."
While it's true that Barbara Bush remains a well-liked figure, particularly within the Republican Party, there's really little risk for Palin in taking this shot. The GOP used to be driven by the old line, Mayflower-ish, country club-types that Barbara and George H.W. represent. Remember that George H.W. Bush essentially ran as a Rockefeller Republican in the 1980 presidential race, branding Ronald Reagan's tax cut program "voodoo economics" and indicating support for abortion rights. With the rise of Reagan conservatism, Bush's crowd was marginalized and, in many cases, driven out of the party altogether.
This is why it's noteworthy that George H.W. Bush, in the same Larry King interview with his wife, appeared to endorse Mitt Romney for the 2012 GOP nod:
He's a reasonable guy. He's a conservative fellow, that's good. But no, I think he'd be a good president, a very good president.
If you asked me, who will the nominee be, I couldn't tell you. We like Mitt Romney. We know him well and like him very much.
As I've written before, Romney is the closest thing there is in today's GOP politics to another George H.W. Bush. Like Bush, he was born into a family of status and privilege and entered politics as a moderate, establishment Republican; the Romney who ran for Senate in Massachusetts in 1994 sounded fairly similar to the the Bush who ran for president in 1980.
But also like Bush, Romney is ultimately an ambitious opportunist. When his '80 campaign fizzled, Bush quickly recognized that the GOP was rapidly turning into an ideologically cohesive right-wing party in Reagan's mold. He maneuvered his way onto the GOP ticket with Reagan, renounced his primary campaign rhetoric, and spent the next eight years laboring to convince members of the GOP's New Right base that he was one of them. Romney has pursued the same course. In the run-up to his 2008 campaign, he walked back one position after another that he'd staked out in Massachusetts, desperately trying to align himself with the sensibilities of the party's right-wing national base.
Even Romney's famous late-2007 defense of his Mormon faith (delivered at George H.W. Bush's presidential library!), widely portrayed by the press as a passionate defense of religious liberty, can be viewed as more of a cynical campaign ploy -- an effort to convince fundamentalist Christians that they should consider him one of them. If anything, the speech called to mind Bush's ridiculous attempt in 1987 to win over Evangelical leaders by claiming to be a born-again Episcopalian.
In 1988, Bush was able to pull off his chameleon act, mainly because of the leg-up he got from running as Reagan's loyal No. 2. Reagan refused to formally endorse Bush during the GOP primaries, but it was clear that Bush was running with the White House's blessing. Essentially, Bush used his two terms as vice president to cajole the New Right into giving him the benefit of the doubt -- which they did, with plenty of reluctance. (And that reluctance proved well-placed when Bush went back on his "no new taxes" pledge as president.)
This is why it can be hard to see Romney capturing the GOP nod in '12. The GOP base is even more conservative now than it was in 1988, and it's mood is far more restive. The Tea Party crowd isn't nearly as willing to give a suspected RINO the benefit of the doubt as the New Right forces were in '88 -- and Romney doesn't enjoy the political benefits of the vice presidency either. In this sense, Palin's back-and-forth with Barbara Bush could be a sign of trouble to come for Mitt. In a one-on-one fight with Palin (or Mike Huckabee, or maybe someone else) in 2012, he'll be the one playing the blueblood role -- which isn't a position any ambitious Republican wants to be in these days.
The problem with the bush family is they have way too many liberals in it.
Isnt Salon a liberal website ???
I can understand why they would like the liberal Romney...
Romney hasnt a hope of beating the DEemocrat nominee...
even if its Barry again...
A ballot like that wouldnt have a choice...
Barry Soetoro V Barry Soetoro 15 years older...
That pretty much sums it up better than anything I've seen written on the topic.
Much to the chagrin of one extreme that sees Mitt as the second coming of Ronald Reagan and the other extreme that sees him as the devil himself.
Or Mormon Barry vs. Islamic Barry.
“I think the majority of Americans don’t want to put up with the blue bloods,”
I just love the way Sarah cuts to the chase and kneecaps little old harmless ladies like Babs Bush. I hope she runs.
You mean a little old harmless lady who had just yielded a switchblade? Babs hasn't said anything intelligent since she correctly described Hillary.
Michael Medved seemed to have kicked off his official Mitt Romney in 2012 campaign today, which naturally involved a selling of the Mormon religion at the same time, his anti-Palin campaign has been running for a long time.
Romney support will necessarily, often involve the selling of Mormonism to Christian Republicans it seems, so this primary effort by Romney will be harmful, in way that no other candidate’s campaign has ever been.
I think it’s funny that SP trashes the blue bloods considering: “Sarah Palin is upper echelon when it comes to descent from the nation’s colonial era founding families in New England.”
Read more at Suite101: Sarah Palin’s Ancestry: Solid New England: Vice Presidential Candidate Has Multiple Mayflower Lineages http://www.suite101.com/content/sarah-palins-ancestry-solid-new-england-a67281#ixzz16Egx6OIg
Barbara should know all about *blue-bloods*
Wow. A decent realistic piece of analysis from Salon.
Myth will give you red..unless you want blue...then he’ll give you red/blue until he figures out what you really want. Purple? Can do. Orange? Comin’ right up. I love Crist. Green? Let me check...got it. Black? Sure, I love the night. White? Yeah, but don’t be too racist. Pink? Oh, yeah, baby.
That comment by Palin was a touch of genius, putting a shot over the bows of not only the Bush family but the Pubbie establishment.
They can be marginalized as the ‘blue blood’ elites against the average guy Republicans from now on. I don’t know if Palin is the ONe, but she put her finger on a political sore spot with aplomb. That shows guts and political acumen from someone.
In the past conservatives have often given “moderates” the benefit of the doubt.
Those days are done for two reasons. First, we’ve been burnt. And second, there is a lot less room for error now; we are too close to the buzz saw. Compromise got us here and we don’t have that luxury anymore.
When you compromise with someone who is going the wrong direction, you don’t wind up in “sort-of” the right place; you wind up in the wrong place at a slower pace. We are in the wrong place and our time is running out.
The Harvard/Yale boys who have been ruling America since Jan. 1989 have wrecked this country and gotten us $15 trillion in debt.
How could Palin do worse?
>Those days are done for two reasons. First, weve been burnt. And second, there is a lot less room for error now; we are too close to the buzz saw. Compromise got us here and we dont have that luxury anymore.
I’ll add a 3rd reason. We’ve shown we can WIN with real, solid conservatives. We don’t have to settle for old establishment RINOs.
I’m descended from the Hapsburgs of the now defunct Austro-Hungarian Empire. I haven’t noticed it helping me in any way. Mr. Obama, IIRC, is related to the Bushes, Clintons, Cheneys and Gov. Palin on her parents side. OTOH, Mr. Palin is part Eskimo.
I am not a GOP backstabber.
I pay others to do it.
The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts. in some polls, days prior to the election.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney
guided by his business partner, George Soros, had
Parker, Frum, and the rest of TeamROMNEY
attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008 to the DNC.
Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."
Kathleen Parker: "[I]t is increasingly clear that Palin is a problem." "Parker ... says something publicly that many of us have thought privately
but lacked the courage to say out loud - Palin should step down:"
"Parker: Romney raised bar on freedoms"
Kathleen Parker: "If Kennedy's speech was an important landmark in American political history,
Romney's was surpassing. With heartfelt humility and poetic eloquence,
he tracked the nation's struggle with and for freedom."
Yes, and we are all descendants of Adam and Eve, so what?
Palin has the Establishment so flummoxed they don’t know which end is up. Yesterday, she hinted she might not run if the Establishment united to stop her and she became a “distraction.”
Today,when asked for a response to the snarky comments by Barbara Bush, she labels the Establsihment “blue bloods” who want to pick candidates.
Just as they are breathing a sigh of relief, hoping that she might go away, she hauls off and hits them with a gut punch like “Blue Bloods” that really finds the mark and knocks the rest of the wind out of them. Beautiful. Just beautiful.
She done several radio interviews today.
She’s just warming-up and she put the GOP Establishment and the punditry supposedly on our side on notice:
Enough Sarah Palin bashing and trumped-up “opinion” polls.
Get an effing clue.
The object is to win in 2012 and the we the people, the TEA Party Republican patriots will choose our candidate, not through polls, not through pundits, and by God, not through the GOP Establishment. We will work for our candidate of choice, and that candidate is Sarah Palin if she agrees to run.
She need only apply and do her very best.
and hit em again!
Between Romneycare, and not dismantling the exhaustive tax structure of his state, along with pleading, “No, really, I’m just like you!”, there is nothing that attracts me to Romney.
Likewise, there is nothing that attracts me to huckabee, wither! A governor acting on his ‘Christian mindset’, ( and defended on TV), in releasing a criminal that shot cops within days of his release, getting any kind feedback from me? Acting on his intuition, he endangered more lives than those taken that day. I cannot see him making a dangerous decision for this country, without his pastoral self getting in the way, damning us all in the process.
The LEFT wants Romney. The LEFT wants Huckabee. Just as the LEFT wanted McCain! No, and no.
Historically, we have put an end to affirmative actions. Black Americans have reached the pinnacle of American politics, with no higher office to accomplish. Too sad, it had to be by pertetrating the greatest hoax - a non-citizen being glossed over, and his truth sealed by orders.
So, as to the Palin question, there is no comparison, in either direction. No matter whom those that think they know what the American citizen wants, or those that think they can control this country, like George Soros, she will eat their lunch, and throw them the brown bag, in compassion for their use with their sick stomach!
Pretty amazing coming from a “washed-up, moronic, chillbilly quitter” huh?
A nightstick the size of a telephone pole and the muscle to wield it effortlessly.
Don’t look now, Onyx, but I think that night stick just produced a bucket full of blood.....Blue Blood....
This afternoon on Tammy Bruce she made it very clear...she said if the establishment continues to attack Tea Party Americans (and her), it would mean the destruction of the GOP.
Of course, as we've talked, the ruling class GOP may not care. They may prefer Obama to Reagan conservatism. Pray for our country.
Yes, Blue Blood!!!
The only question I have is who is more economically skilled, Romney or Palin. That is what it will come down to. Who can get us out of this mess? I believe that most people on that ONE issue would pick Romney. Sorry but that is just a fact. Throw everything else in and Palin would be the winner of the Republican nominee. Romney owned a successful company, Saved the Olympics, etc. Sorry but economically he is sound. Blast away!
The most important economic skill a president can have is knowing how to let the people run the markets. No other economic skill comes close to this one.
Romney doesn’t know how to do this, because he wants to control.
That is interesting. So basically “stay out of it”? Interesting.
All the economic credentials in the world will not save this country. It will take a leader who can inspire Americans to accept the unbelievably tough choices that face this country in the years directly ahead.
Those that can't see that will naturally gravitate to the unprincipled Blue Bloods that have gotten us into this mess in the first place.
No thanks on Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever.
I just don’t see things as bad as some folks. Sure it will be a challenge, but I thought the 70’s were much worse with unemployment, oil embargo, and various other stuff. Next to the 70’s, I believe this is cake. Of course I guess being 9 in 1979 might have given me a false sense of what was going on but it sure seemed awful.
“if the establishment continues to attack Tea Party Americans (and her), it would mean the destruction of the GOP.”
I am betting, Al, that the country will have decided to fire Obama in 2012. The GOP nominee will be the favorite. And the Establishment won’t be able to do anything about it. I could be wrong, but I think that is how it is shaping up.
They can destroy a novice candidate in a liberal state (DE)or a corrupt state (AK).
The United States is a whole different kettle of fish. Trying to do that in Florida, Michigan, Ohio or Wisconsin is not nearly as easy. They simply don’t have the ideological of organizational grip on those states.
And anyone who thinks Sarah Palin is a “novice candidate”, who can be rolled this way, is a fool. She is a politician of the first order. If she is running a campaign herself (not just endorsing, but making the decisions), I would never count it out. If she is both running the campaign and is herself the candidate, the odds of success are even higher, and a favorable poltical climate (ie-if the economy is not much better in 2012; unemployment below 7% which is highly unlikely) would make her invincible. In other words, her political savvy, plus her political skills (charisma, if you will) added to favorable circumstances for a challenger will make her next to unbeatable in a national election.
The “Romney saved the olympics, so he can be president” line is complete hogwash.
Whatever he did with the olympics has nothing to do with what our next president, or any president, needs to do. I’m sure Romney was very hands on and controlling when he “saved the olympics.”
But we already have a “hands on” president right now, look at his takeover of GM. And everything else.
To be president one needs to have the wisdom and the restraint to release the free markets from the grip of government.
What we need is a hands off president. Do you realize how difficult that is for a person sitting in the Oval Office? Bush claimed to be a hands off president but look what he did. Romney would be worse.
Watch it kid...
I have a Sarah Heath in my family lines...
My 5th g grandmother..
She was born in Great Cheverell, Wiltshire, England abt 1751 died abt 1834 and married John Dunford 18 Nov 1770..
I dont know how she was related to Sarah Heath Palin’s ancestor Joseph Heath from Wiltshire who came to the US in the 1700s...
and I have several early colonial families...
Dont make me list ‘em...
Well OK ask...
I have names dates etc...
Listening to Dennis Miller. In discussing her as President, Miller says:
“I love to think of you and that big jet [Air Force One], plunking that down in Fairbanks...Murkowski looking out her window grinding her teeth to the pulp....”
I almost fell off the chair laughing.
The Romney saved the olympics, so he can be president line is complete hogwash.
Well there was that government bailout that Romney arranged...
and did Romney do whatever he did for recognition of some big type ???
Knowing Romney. what do you think ???
Romney never has been a “shy guy”...
A shrinking violet usually doesnt use Botox and hair dye and Armani suits and kiss up to Barry and the gang......
We didn't have $100 trillion of unfunded mandates. We didn't have the HUGE dependency class suffocating hard-working people like we have today and although Carter was a disaster, he was just a naive fool. We now have a Marxist lunatic rapidly building a gigantic out-of-control bureaucracy that threatens our country's existence as a free nation.
We can't stand any more statist "tinkering class" Republicans that would basically transfer influence from one group of K-streeters to another. We're out of time and millions of Tea Partiers are sensing it. It's a beautiful thing.
I love the way you expressed the truth of Mitt. Pefect!
Uh oh. My “perfect” wasn’t.
Good points. I guess comparing the Olympics with the Presidency was silly. I am not sure why I went there. I believe maybe because of the organization and financial aspects of it. But you are correct, it has nothing to do with the Presidency.
Your sincerity is humbling.