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Pollster: NC might pick Obama in 2012, too
The Raleigh News & Observer ^ | December 6, 2010 | Rob Christensen and Mary Cornatzer

Posted on 12/06/2010 12:23:31 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Is this even close to reality? If you're in North Carolina or Virginia or from there, please let us know...
1 posted on 12/06/2010 12:23:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Virginia is more and more heavily swayed by Northern VA and some of the other metro areas (Norfolk, Richmond) - so yeah, I could see VA swaying either way.

NC has been interesting to watch from across the border - I'm not exactly sure WHAT has been causing them to veer left, because I have yet to meet any of these lefty voters from NC, and yet with each election, it seems to shift further.
2 posted on 12/06/2010 12:26:46 AM PST by beezdotcom
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If you line up the four Virginia counties that surround DC...they all vote heavily (over 70 percent usually) Democrat. There are three or four other counties around the state that typically lean or go that direction as well....and then the rest of the state of Virginia is fairly Republican. This has been a long time in development and a lot of this has to deal with the suburban attitude of northern Virginia. You can also look at the amount of money that those four counties demand from the state (which fairly said...they deserve because of the significant state taxes that come from that region and the salaries associated with them).


3 posted on 12/06/2010 12:33:08 AM PST by pepsionice
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Being from NC, and having a dem controlled state legislature for 100 years, until last month... I don’t see Obama winning as it stands now. Maybe people are finally waking up.


4 posted on 12/06/2010 12:49:28 AM PST by Repub4bush (GOPbriefingroom.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama has to take advantage of every possibility after his low ratings nationwide.
He will make a big deal out of a few chinks in the walls in NC and VA.
If PR does not work then he will get on Air Force 1 and go hide in Timbuktu with large entourage in tow. (I mean MObama)
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5 posted on 12/06/2010 1:13:50 AM PST by 1elder1 (\Christmas with the Palins all December 2010)
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No one else has a posse that large...


6 posted on 12/06/2010 1:24:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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What would one expect from the land of goober and gomer. Once again them dumb southerners are fooled again.
7 posted on 12/06/2010 1:33:14 AM PST by Plumberman27
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Well golly, shazam!
8 posted on 12/06/2010 1:34:40 AM PST by Plumberman27
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NC is an odd state politically. The NCGOP until recently has been borderline worthless. The RATS loved the NCGOP...always a sure thing for the RATS to win.

For yrs many conservatives just shook their heads in disbelief at the goings on in NC. Guv is always a RAT, lil dickie burr ran as a non Republican.

You have the old line “my daddy was a Democrat...” mentality and of course the huge influx of Northerners, public employees..the worst are the public school teachers.

Nifong could win the guv’s race...thats how bad it is in my home state. Very sad situation.


9 posted on 12/06/2010 1:46:41 AM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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I would not be surprised if the premise of the PPP poll was to determine what would result politically if every stripe of voter was equally likely to vote. I suspect that this is a false premise and that the types of voter more likely to vote for Obama are less likely to vote. Thus, it is more likely, in the real world, that NC would vote for whoever is Obama’s opponent unless he can really terrify his voting blocs. Perhaps his actions in the current visit will provide a window in the prospects for such a campaign.


10 posted on 12/06/2010 2:09:13 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Repub4bush
Being from NC, and having a dem controlled state legislature for 100 years, until last month... I don’t see Obama winning as it stands now. Maybe people are finally waking up.

I agree. The article is propaganda, intended to soften the gigantic tsunami the Dems in NC just felt in November.

If the new Republican majority in the state assembly will fight to clean up the election and registration fraud in the next two years, the Dems cannot win anything in NC.

And Perdue will be gone.

And redistricting will fix a few of those crooked congressional districts.

11 posted on 12/06/2010 2:10:00 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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I’m happy to subscribe to that drum-beat. My own district NC-2 is one of the worst, but that didn’t stop Renee Ellmers from winning anyway.


12 posted on 12/06/2010 2:17:59 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The REAL enemy of America are the people who elected and would vote again for this nightmare. This is the stuff of which civil wars are made...


13 posted on 12/06/2010 2:31:08 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe North Carolina is 21% black.

95% of that vote is an Obama Gimme.
When you add a few Yellow Dog Democrats , and a few liberals that roamed in from out of State , Add a few people that don’t bother to vote,it gives them a fair chance of voting for Obama again.


14 posted on 12/06/2010 2:58:19 AM PST by Venturer
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Obama as the incumbent is under 50% against Palin (the supposed mark of an incumbent who won’t be re-elected) in one of his ‘08 states. Palin is already within the margin of error.

And she’s supposed to be ‘unelectable’? Were she the Democrat, all of the headlines, news and commentary would be that she is, by conventional wisdom, in the lead over Barry.


15 posted on 12/06/2010 3:18:56 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve already bet my lib-brother $100 that Obama will not carry any state in 2012 that went Bush-Bush-Obama in ‘00, ‘04, ‘08


16 posted on 12/06/2010 3:34:15 AM PST by wny
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To: pepsionice

Well all those Government working Parasites who sacrifice by working for the Government have to Live somewhere and there sure are not fewer Government Parasites since Obumbo has been President.


17 posted on 12/06/2010 3:56:43 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: BelegStrongbow
It's a poll of "voters" not likely voters, which skews a little left. It's a small sample, too, which makes it a little less reliable.

They will be running polls out the wazoo for the next two years trying to convince Republicans to run anyone EXCEPT a conservative. Remember that there are a lot of factors that influence elections and poll numbers. For example, McCain was dead until he picked Palin and suddenly all his conservative base returned. A Huckabee might have what appear to be decent poll numbers, but in fact have no excitement, no fundraising, no organization, and no chance.

18 posted on 12/06/2010 4:17:31 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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HUH?
Is there something wrong with the people that live in North Carolina?
Have they been asleep the past 2 years as Obanma has done everything humanly possible to hurt America?
What the hell is wrong with people in this Country these days? Are they that weak and spineless?


19 posted on 12/06/2010 4:21:23 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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This article doesn’t even pass the “red face” test. I’d like to see the demographics and sample specifics. Bet it was a small section of an urban area.


20 posted on 12/06/2010 4:24:22 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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