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Breaking: First New Hampshire GOP Primary Poll Results Are In (Mitt in first, Sarah in 2nd)
Fox News ^ | January 6, 2011

Posted on 01/06/2011 5:15:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: who knows what evil?

“Is there another state where the natives are in the minority?”

Yeah California.....with the same stinky results.....


51 posted on 01/06/2011 6:19:53 PM PST by Forty-Niner (Dump Diane Feinstein 2012!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Believe me we ex Massholes are not Liberal.
52 posted on 01/06/2011 6:21:33 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: hosepipe

Jack Kimball is running for NH GOP chair with the support of the Tea Party. Natch; RINO Sununu endorses fellow RINO Julia Bergeron...we’ll see who wins later this month. The NH GOP does NOT like conservatives or the Tea Party.


53 posted on 01/06/2011 6:22:13 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Hoodat

It’s okay but won’t make my top 10.


54 posted on 01/06/2011 6:23:42 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: who knows what evil?
Is there another state where the natives are in the minority?

How about every state.......

55 posted on 01/06/2011 6:25:02 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Little Bill

Roger that, Bill! Just look at Rockingham County where most of them live.


56 posted on 01/06/2011 6:27:49 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: Celtic Cross
The "Vast" majority does NOT want Romney........

It's a figment of the MSM's imagination....

57 posted on 01/06/2011 6:28:40 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: who knows what evil?

Guess who’s running the NH GOP these days. Things are different now.


58 posted on 01/06/2011 6:30:26 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: who knows what evil?

I am going to see a couple of my County Committeemen this weekend, Kimball is the man.


59 posted on 01/06/2011 6:30:45 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: citizencon

Not holding my nose and voting RINO ever again.


60 posted on 01/06/2011 6:31:19 PM PST by Twinkie (Awake and strengthen that which remains . . . . . . . . Revelation 3)
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To: who knows what evil?
[ The NH GOP does NOT like conservatives or the Tea Party. ]

True.. but you cannot get rid of the RINOs overnight..
As the federal government is defunded they will deport themselves back to where they came from..
With No(or less) money to steal being in government will lose its glitter for many in Washington D.C..

The reverse engineering of federal government is a process..

61 posted on 01/06/2011 6:32:23 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Eyes, I heard Mark Styne say, on Rush, that he was Broadcasting from Grafton County in East Vermont. I didn't think you people had radio over there.
62 posted on 01/06/2011 6:36:40 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Little Bill

I was hoping Kimball was going to run for governor again next time. Instead he’s doing this. He’s a good man and would have been a great governor.


63 posted on 01/06/2011 6:36:40 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: Little Bill

I really hope Kimball wins...


64 posted on 01/06/2011 6:39:16 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Little Bill

Yes, mark has reappeared. I’ll be seeing some of his neighbors tomorrow evening and I’ll get the latest on him as they know it. He lives in Lyme, just north of Hanover which is the extreme Left Coast of NH.


65 posted on 01/06/2011 6:39:33 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: Past Your Eyes
As much as I dislike PAPA Sununu, the guy can organize. After Cullen, the Mouth Breather, he put things together, I hope that those that follow him, including you and I remember how to run campaigns, Kimball has the right views on politics but can he organize.
66 posted on 01/06/2011 6:45:54 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
These media polls are going to continue for the next year. We must reverse them before they harden into fact. We need to make the primaries a real horse race, by getting genuine Conservatives out front now. We can't wait until next March or thereabouts. Name recognition is important. Getting the names of genuine conservatives in the news now matters.
67 posted on 01/06/2011 6:46:43 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: o2bfree

New Hampshire should be disqualified and placed at the end of the calendar.

The fact NH allows democrats to vote in the republican primary means that should have no say whatsoever.


68 posted on 01/06/2011 6:47:21 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: Little Bill

Bill, speaking of Grafton county, you might be interested in this.
http://www.vnews.com/01062011/7511727.htm
In case you didn’t know it, Ray Burton has been part of the problem for a long time. I’ve known Ray about all my life. The rest of us Grafton County Republicans tried to talk Burton out of what he did but he wouldn’t be turned. He’s “in bed” with Cryans.
Omer Ahern is a good friend of mine. A better guy you won’t find on the right.


69 posted on 01/06/2011 6:49:56 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: Little Bill

Bill, speaking of Grafton county, you might be interested in this.
http://www.vnews.com/01062011/7511727.htm
In case you didn’t know it, Ray Burton has been part of the problem for a long time. I’ve known Ray about all my life. The rest of us Grafton County Republicans tried to talk Burton out of what he did but he wouldn’t be turned. He’s “in bed” with Cryans.
Omer Ahern is a good friend of mine. A better guy you won’t find on the right.


70 posted on 01/06/2011 6:50:04 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You really think democrats were crossing over in New Hampshire when they had a highly competitive race on their side?

That's what I've often wondered when reading these crossover explanations for McCain's win in NH. And Obama had won Iowa and NH was a comeback win for Hillary. It's hard to believe that large numbers of Dims skipped that race and voted in the Republican primary.

And McCain did go on to win South Carolina. After that, his wins were mostly in blue states and Florida.

71 posted on 01/06/2011 6:53:09 PM PST by Will88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
First, it was an autodial survey of likely 1,451 Republican
and independent voters
by a firm that helps paid RINOs.

Second, want proof:

"Recent polling from Magellan Strategies indicates
that both Governor Mitt Romney and Meg Whitman,
former CEO of eBay.com, are in early pole position
for their relative offices"

72 posted on 01/06/2011 6:58:50 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"One of the traditional methods of imposing statism
or socialism on people has been by way of medicine..."

President Ronald Reagan

Death Panels imposed by Mitt Romney (ObamaCARE=RomneyCARE).



73 posted on 01/06/2011 7:03:43 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Past Your Eyes
If things in 2012 are as I expect, you people in Grafton County won't have a problem booting the dead wood. 19 new relatives on the pay-role for a new jail, why?
74 posted on 01/06/2011 7:06:59 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Little Bill

Why? Because the damm Democrats ran the rod to us, that’s why. A $35 million project and we don’t even have a clerk of the works to supervise the construction. You can thank Ray Burton for that, too. He’s been a county commissioner for a long time in addition to governor’s council.


75 posted on 01/06/2011 7:21:42 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: Will88

There was a contingent here at Free Republic that were supportive of a conservatives vote for John McCain in NH; they wanted to stop Romney in the belief that McCain could never win anyway, and stopping Romney would clear the way for Fred Thompson.

Whether that movement had any effect or not, I can’t say.


76 posted on 01/06/2011 7:33:14 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Past Your Eyes
Why don't you, when you are making your political rounds, sound out the selectmen into asking the question why? You have a legitimate reason to ask and if you get enough complaints you can refer it for inquiry.
77 posted on 01/06/2011 7:34:54 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Little Bill

Hey, I’m part of the county delegation and we did all we could to get that fixed here a couple weeks ago. Our delegation is half Democrat. Don’t forget, we have Lebanon and Hanover to deal with along with Plymouth - all Dems in those super enlightened college towns, don’t ya know. Just like Durham and Keene.


78 posted on 01/06/2011 7:44:18 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

If Romney runs, odds are good he will win NH. McCain voters will most likely turn to him, and Huckabee and Thompson combined only got around 11% or so. NH is a symbolic victory at best...4 of the last 5 winners of the primary have not reached or lost the general election...just ask Pat Buchanan....magritte


79 posted on 01/06/2011 7:48:20 PM PST by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Past Your Eyes
Does the General Court have a Committee on Counties? Look at the numbers after you ask for them or get them by other means. You and I have run crews most of our lives, sometimes the specter of a watcher with experience can upset a few people.
80 posted on 01/06/2011 7:56:13 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The backstabbing RomneyBOTs HAVE had an effect.

Romney and his malignant BOTs have thrown Elections 2008 and 2010 to the DNC.

Everyone now knows about Rove and TeamRomney vs the GOP in 2010.
In 2008, the McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts. in some polls, days prior to the election.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney once again
had his backstabbing TeamROMNEY
attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008 to the DNC.


Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



81 posted on 01/06/2011 8:16:11 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: magritte

But Palin is already doing better in the polls than the two of them combined. On the other hand, it’s way to early to actually worry about polls. The polls swung wildly in 2008, changing over a period of days sometimes.


82 posted on 01/06/2011 8:21:44 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Diogenesis
In 2008, the McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts. in some polls, days prior to the election.

Still hawking that same inaccurate claim? You'd think after having it's falsehood pointed out to you more than twice, you'd figure out how to edit your spam posts to fix it.

83 posted on 01/06/2011 8:23:09 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hoodat; All
Hey, I've got a novel idea. Why not let the voters of a conservative state (like Oklahoma, Idaho, or Mississippi) pick our nominee instead.

This reminds me of why I've long loathed the presidential primary system. No matter how early other states move their primaries, it's "all over" by the time more than a few states have voted.

Republican's don't get a battle like Obama & Hillary had. We get some ego candidates who have no shot, those the press pimp as 'worthy' fodder and then the establishment candidates at the top.

Iowa voters will only support the candidates who want to keep the ethanol subsidies.

84 posted on 01/07/2011 2:34:28 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And it wont be the Republicans shoving the Healthcare issue down the Throats of Republicans it will be the Democrats negating the Biggest issue we have


85 posted on 01/07/2011 4:04:49 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: newzjunkey
This reminds me of why I've long loathed the presidential primary system.

Let the candidates campaign for a few months; then have the primaries on a Saturday late in the year.

86 posted on 01/07/2011 4:11:28 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Jim Robinson; ConjunctionJunction; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; ...

Still hawking YOUR pro-Romney ROMNEYBOT falsehoods?

McCain and Palin were ahead so the RomneyBOTs
==== and we know who they were here ====
attacked Gov. Palin and her children for Obama/Romney.

How is that working out for you?

Romney and his malignant BOTs should be punished,
not rewarded for the attacks on the GOP. YOU BETCHA!


87 posted on 01/07/2011 4:18:21 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

Mittens couldn’t win New Hampshire last time, and a lot has changed. Romneycare has be reviled as the treat them like bugs socialism that it is. Mass cities, towns and hospitals are going more broke, faster. ER vists have Increased. Costs lead the nation. Everything, everything Mitt the Slick promised has gone south, worse.

Now, New Hampshire. It has totally gone Tea Party. The State has gone GOP, and The Party has gone Tea. Mittens has no, zero, chance. The fiscal, anti Obama, anti Socialist Republicans will work Mitt over like a Oakland street gang.

Heck, even in Massachusetts the Democrats got worked over by their own constituents. Half or more wouldn’t even have a town meeting.

No one is going to be polite to ol’Harvard lawyer, carpet bagger, ambition dripping in puddles at his feet Mitt.

He needs it though. He’s so deluded he needs a beating, bad.

Maybe he’ll say he was brainwashed like his idol, his father did when he came back from his weekend in Viet Nam.


88 posted on 01/07/2011 5:06:22 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: magritte

New Hampshire has turned totally Tea Party. The state GOP has been replaced with savage, hard core Tea Partiers. Very young, very anti government, anti debt. Mitt didn’t win last time, and he’s going to get pummeled in the state primary. ( Which, I will enjoy watching.)

Ex New Hampshire Governor, John Sununu who set up and did critical leg work in this election in taking back New Hampshire, was on Boston’s Howie Carr show, and couldn’t have painted a more deadly picture for Mitt, and his ilk GOP types in the state today. Even Howie, who likes Mitt, and was a supporter, and has the largest, most popular 4 hour talk show gives Mitt no chance because of Romneycare.


89 posted on 01/07/2011 5:15:06 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: Leisler

I would be very pleased to see NH do that...the drift to the left there has been very disheartening...appreciate the background and will keep a watch on your postings about it....magritte


90 posted on 01/07/2011 5:27:12 AM PST by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Little Bill

There is a standing committee on Municipal and County Government. My father was on it many years ago. I doubt if it would have anything to do with this situation.


91 posted on 01/07/2011 5:41:11 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: magritte; Leisler

See my #58.


92 posted on 01/07/2011 5:46:34 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (I'd get it myself but I don't have any thumbs.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Yup, the national figures don’t want to see it, hear it. They are old regime, elitists GOP whom in their minds as individuals and a class, have the right to rule, peasants be damned.


93 posted on 01/07/2011 6:03:42 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: who knows what evil?; 2ndDivisionVet; Article10; onyx

Having read through the thread, there are some interesting thoughts/insights. What is not mentioned and has to vetted and understood is how the NH GOP would handle Romney and Palin. The current NHGOP would smile politely and knife Palin in a heart beat. Romney is the insider.

Watch how the GOP Chair goes, then take it from there and take a tally on how many of the 493 NH GOP Delagates are TEA Party affilated and Christians. All the blathering about the media, Romney care, etc... is chaff compared to these items in my opinion.


94 posted on 01/07/2011 7:27:47 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Leisler

I respectfully disagree with your statement. Just because the GOP picked up a majority, the TEA party is not even close to being in charge or having a majority in NH. If the TEA party was as you described, Jack Kimball would be Gov today.

The NH GOP is full of RINO’s, that is just a fact. Please explain the “Republicans for Lynch” crowd and why they are still the insiders at the State Level GOP? Why is Sununu not backing Kimball for GOP Chair? Who is Julianne Bergeron? (I will help you, a first class, RINO) Why is Judas Gregg on the advisory boards of several Repbulican State level think tanks? Sorry to take you away from talk radio, from Mass no less, and the Union Leader in to reality.


95 posted on 01/07/2011 7:39:52 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of this will matter until NH changes the law and demands postive identification and residency requirements in order to vote.

Voter fraud is very real in NH, 2006 and 2008 are absolute proof. Jean “I love killing babies”” Shaheen won in 2006 by exactly the amount of same day registrations w/99.8 percent of them in Plymouth, Keene, and Durham. Go figure.......


96 posted on 01/07/2011 7:44:55 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Diogenesis; Jim Robinson
I hardly think Jim Robinson wants to be dragged into a discussion of how you can't get a simple fact straight, that has nothing to do with Romney but everything to do with simple reading comprehension.

There was no time in the last two months of the election when McCain led Obama by 10 points. There was no point in the last month of the election where McCain led Obama in any tracked polling.

Your statement that there was such a poll is false. And I've shown you that multiple times, and you insist on continuing to mislead your fellow freepers with that false claim.

Surely, there are enough truthful things in this world to point out that you don't need to make things up.

Here is the link again, in case you have forgotten: RCP Polls 2008 Presidential Election:

The last time McCain led by any amount in any poll, it was 2 points, on 9/25, about 40 days before the election.

The last time McCain led by MORE than 2 points, it was 4 points, on 9/11, nearly 2 months before the election.

The last time McCain led by 10 points was 9/7, around the time of the convention. It was just after the convention that McCain had is last streak of days "ahead" in the polls, which ended on 9/11.

It is absurd for you to continue to insist that McCain was up from +4 to +10 points "days before the election". Your false information leads you to false conclusions, but your opinion is yours, and I'm not arguing that, only correcting your false objective evidence.

97 posted on 01/07/2011 9:19:35 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Article10
None of this will matter until NH changes the law and demands postive identification and residency requirements in order to vote.

Closing the primary to 'independents' wouldn't hurt, either...wonder how many of those 'same day registrations' had Massachusetts or Maine plates on their cars?

98 posted on 01/07/2011 9:26:31 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Plenty did, how about the 8 charter busses with staff from Organizing America in Durham shuttling students from UNH to the town hall all day long. On the bus they “schooled” the kids on how to fill out the registration forms, had sample ballots with Othugga marked off and the ammensty letter to William Gardner, NH Sectary of State included w/stamped envelope, just sign and send to avoid prosecution.


99 posted on 01/07/2011 10:03:48 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Article10

Mitt didn’t win last time, it’s worse for him now. Way worse. By the primaries, do you think conservatives, moderate Republicans, even RINO’s are going to be more status quo, or more radicalized. I’m betting the economy becomes more of a grind, that more move right, and the right moves more conservative.

So, what’s Mitt going to do, be Mr. Conservative? Have Pat Buchanan standing next to him?

Who wins NH isn’t going to be an anointed GOP hack. He/she is going to have to run against the party.


100 posted on 01/07/2011 1:38:47 PM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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