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Give Palin more credit
The Daytona Beach News-Journal ^ | February 2, 2011 | Tom Williams

Posted on 02/02/2011 12:33:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

When Sarah Palin gave her electrifying speech at the RNC convention in 2008, she stole the spotlight from Barack Obama, John McCain surged ahead in the polls and Team Obama panicked! The Democrat attack machine met behind closed doors and concluded that McCain wasn't their problem. It was Sarah Palin they must destroy. With the aid of the liberal media, they orchestrated the most vicious, unwarranted attack ever against a public servant.

This current administration's relentless drive to socialism has driven our cherished republic to the brink of fiscal and moral bankruptcy. A free and prosperous future is under attack and we must elect an extraordinary leader who will enact the tough policies necessary to restore honor, solvency and prosperity to our vulnerable country.

I respectfully ask responsible voters to look beyond the vitriolic press and consider reading about how a young woman elected mayor of Wasilla single-handedly turned a sleepy town into the fastest-growing city in Alaska. Learn how the first woman governor of Alaska became the most popular governor in America, enjoying an approval rating over 80 percent! Investing in the time to unveil the real Sarah Palin, you just might conclude she's the only potential presidential candidate on the political horizon with the backbone, the stature and moral compass to make these tough and sometimes unpopular, but necessary decisions.

As patriotic Americans, we must not allow future generations to be held hostage by the bondage of unsustainable debt, a nation in decline and the mediocrity and hopelessness of socialism. We must look beyond these times of oppression and return to championing freedom and liberty, personal responsibility, American exceptionalism and our entrepreneurial spirit. It's liberty or tyranny, the choice is yours.


TOPICS: Alaska; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; freepressforpalin; obama; palin; sarahpalin
What he said.
1 posted on 02/02/2011 12:33:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Never saw this coming. Common sense, honesty and integrity from a newspaper. Alert all air traffic controllers to start watching for flying pigs.

;-\

2 posted on 02/02/2011 12:39:17 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ West 2012... Demand Exceptional--America deserves the best)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

American Patriot...


3 posted on 02/02/2011 12:39:34 PM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Give Palin more credit?

Should we give her more credit for being George Washington? Cincinnatus? Reagan? Sir William Wallace? She actually gets a lot of credit from the right, even from those of us who don't support her as a candidate. What most Palin Worshipers want though really is not “credit” at all. They want fellow worshipers or at the very least they allow no criticism as criticism is “PDS”.

4 posted on 02/02/2011 12:42:15 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb

Maybe they’re overcompensating due to the scathing 24/7/364 abuse she receives from the MSM, Hollywood, academia, Broadway, the nutroots, RINOs, cable news, the DNC, Soros, and others. Ever think of that?


5 posted on 02/02/2011 12:54:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. ~Lincoln)
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To: Artemis Webb

Dad and I both sent $ to SarahPAC in time for her birthday (2/11).

Watching Sarah Palin’s Alaska gives me goosebumps. Seeing her fire a shotgun is like p0rn hehehe.

GO SARAH, WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 02/02/2011 12:55:10 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( Ft. Lauderdale Florida)
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To: Artemis Webb

“They want fellow worshipers or at the very least they allow no criticism as criticism is “PDS”.”

Although your assessment is true as is with the loyalists of any candidate, the tenor of the Palin critics tends to be suspect as if it has as its objective to dissuade borderline supporters to swith over to a Romney or Huckabee candidacy. I would like to see a Palin Presidency because she has the stones to make a difference whereas the others tend to be the “business as usual” pols who get to Washington and forget about the folks in flyover country.


7 posted on 02/02/2011 12:56:41 PM PST by rj45mis
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To: Artemis Webb

Give Palin more credit?
Should we give her more credit for being George Washington? Cincinnatus? Reagan? Sir William Wallace? She actually gets a lot of credit from the right, even from those of us who don’t support her as a candidate. What most Palin Worshipers want though really is not “credit” at all. They want fellow worshipers or at the very least they allow no criticism as criticism is “PDS”.

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PDS is right.

They can’t/won’t criticize her policies, but they do her hair, any misspoke word, her shoes,......

PDS runs rampant, thanks to your media.


8 posted on 02/02/2011 12:59:03 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Maybe they’re overcompensating due to the scathing 24/7/364 abuse she receives from the MSM, Hollywood, academia, Broadway, the nutroots, RINOs, cable news, the DNC, Soros, and others. Ever think of that?

Actually I have thought of that. Though not in the same way you put it. There does seem to be a belief that anybody on FR who doesn't support Sarah Palin for president must "hate her". I think part of why that is is that her supporters will find some article from some left wing nut or left wing website that hates her. They'll publish it here on FR. They'll wallow in the hatred the left has for the woman and then extrapolate that any criticism of Palin is "hatred".

9 posted on 02/02/2011 1:19:19 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Freddd
my media?

If it's my media then I want royalties. Honestly though it's people like you trodding through countless left wing blogs and watching the crap on MSNBC for even a whiff of anti-Palin sentiment so you can post it here on FR. You're the one boosting their hit counts. Really, it's YOUR MEDIA.

10 posted on 02/02/2011 1:23:43 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: rj45mis

Yep. I’ll agree with that. I’d also add, that many opinions of the “conservative” PDS sufferers, were formed back when Sarah had to support her top of the team candidate, a man damn few of us supported.

Unshackled from such requirements, I’ve found her positions to be okay with me. Others mileage may vary and we can quibble about the details, tactics etc., but the outright piss ant attitudes from “conservatives” regarding an American, and a conservative woman, out there fighting the fight against overwhelming odds - AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE - are over the top.


11 posted on 02/02/2011 1:26:04 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Artemis Webb

Maybe the problem is nobody can understand how a person can be in favor of saving our country from destruction by socialism, yet opposed to the most tenacious constitutional conservative on the list of potential candidates.


12 posted on 02/02/2011 1:30:26 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Relativism is the intellectual death knell of progressive ideology.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Critique away, just cease smearing and lying about her like a pack of fecking rabid dogs.


13 posted on 02/02/2011 1:31:53 PM PST by jla
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To: jla

I can’t speak for others but tell me ONE LIE I have ever said about Sarah Palin. If you can’t, than you’re a liar.


14 posted on 02/02/2011 2:16:40 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: reasonisfaith
Re #12:

A reasoned statement like yours deserves a reasoned response.

Again I can't speak for others, only for myself. But calling Sarah Palin, “THE MOST tenacious Constitutional conservative” is not far from the truth. One can make an argument that the “The Most” is subjective of course. But regardless Palin is a Constitutional conservative. She's a good lady. I happen to like her. My personal opposition to her stems from a belief that she won't win the nomination and can't win in the General Election. For that reason there are other Constitutional conservatives I would favor over Palin in the primaries. Make no mistake, if Sarah Palin wins the nomination not only will I vote for her but I'll put her bumper sticker in my window and her sign in my yard.

15 posted on 02/02/2011 2:38:19 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb

I recognize your right to express this opinion.

But it’s a bit of a challenge to relate to it. At times (though not necessarily with regard to yours in particular) this sort of response to Palin appears suspect, because the most common strategy in any campaign battle—without exception—is to deny your opponent’s electability.


16 posted on 02/02/2011 3:01:33 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Relativism is the intellectual death knell of progressive ideology.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I totally agree....


17 posted on 02/02/2011 4:05:48 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Artemis Webb

I’m all for a Palin presidency, however, I don’t worship her, and I seriously doubt that others do either. I worship God, otherwise, I would be guilty of worshipping an idol.

Just who do you think is more suited in these troubling times to lead our country back to sanity? None, that I can think of, and yes, I’ve considered other candidates. Your loathing is peeking through your words. It doesn’t seem that you can look at what she has accomplished, and who she is. Therefore, I have to conclude that you look at the mess this country is in through blinders.


18 posted on 02/02/2011 8:18:11 PM PST by Catsrus (Have)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We must look beyond these times of oppression and return to championing freedom and liberty, personal responsibility, American exceptionalism and our entrepreneurial spirit.

Sounds good, but it will never happen unless we have a single dominant culture at the core of our society. That is something we don't have right now, and until we do (if we ever do again) things will keep getting worse.

19 posted on 02/02/2011 8:35:22 PM PST by csense
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To: Artemis Webb

Criticizing Sarah Palin is the same as criticizing Ronald Reagan! Only difference is it’s 33 years later!


20 posted on 02/02/2011 9:11:47 PM PST by factmart
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To: Artemis Webb

Same was said about Reagan after he lost the GOP nomination in 1976. But a weak president that was unpopular because of his policies along with trouble in the Middle East helped Reagan win in 1980. And his message.

But Sarah Palin is not Reagan but not bad. She does lack his experience both in office and in the public eye. But she’s catching up on the latter.


21 posted on 02/02/2011 9:20:44 PM PST by Fledermaus (WAKE UP! Get rid of the LIBS in both parties. If not us, who? If not now, when?)
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To: factmart
"Criticizing Sarah Palin is the same as criticizing Ronald Reagan!"

So who's criticizing Sarah Palin?

22 posted on 02/02/2011 10:08:19 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Catsrus
Like all Palin Worshipers you refuse to see that criticisms of the Palin Cult have nothing to do with her. She did not ask you to worship her. You simply do it anyway. YOU are no different than those who worship/worshipped Obama.
23 posted on 02/02/2011 10:12:41 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb
I don't know about your lying about Palin, but on this thread you just implied that her supporters are "worshipers".

That's typical of someone who uses hyperbole (aka lies) to make their point.

24 posted on 02/02/2011 10:16:49 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark
"I don't know about your lying about Palin, but on this thread you just implied that her supporters are "worshipers"."

Her supporters are supporters. Her worshipers are worshipers. I "implied" nothing. I stated a fact. A Palin supporter wants to see her run for POTUS. They want to see her get the GOP nomination and win. They will put forth effort (time, talent and money) to accomplish this. Should she not win the nomination they will give their support to the nominee so long as the nominee is a conservative (this leaves out Mitt).

A Palin worshiper believes she is ordained to be POTUS and nothing can stop it. They believe any criticism of Sarah Palin is "PDS". They will publicly state that if Sarah Palin is not the nominee they will not support any party nominee. They refuse to see that criticisms of themselves as Palin Worshipers has nothing to do with her but is purely a criticism of themselves as a group. I almost expect to hear them say among themselves, "We are the ones we have been waiting for."

25 posted on 02/02/2011 10:49:54 PM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb

Dear God, you are delusional. Perhaps you’d feel more at home on a liberal site?

Go along now and take your medicine. Your ignorance is beginning to flare up.


26 posted on 02/03/2011 12:04:51 AM PST by Catsrus (Have)
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To: Artemis Webb
I almost expect to hear them say among themselves, "We are the ones we have been waiting for."

My tag line was intended to refer to the cult of the glorified city councilman we have as President. I think we've hit the low comedy point quite early in the latest cult. She'll survive her adoring yo-yos.

27 posted on 02/03/2011 12:16:56 AM PST by Stentor ( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
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To: Artemis Webb
The problem is, your argument could be used about any politician who has supporters. You could say that about Reagan or Bush, or Nixon (or Duncan Hunter) for that matter. All of them have had rabid supporters you could call "worshipers".

Using hyperbole (yes, you are using it) for some kind of debating point is not helpful.

It's very simple, if Palin decides to run she will have to convince a majority of voters she should be president. She will have to make her case well for over a year as she campaigns. If she makes it well, she has a good chance of winning the nomination and the general. If not, she won't win.

For you to punctuate a lot of your posts on her calling her supporters "worshipers" will only demean your owns status as a poster and does not help the debate at all.

28 posted on 02/03/2011 7:07:56 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

Lakeshark it’s the TRUTH!

Here’s a question for you. Would you deny that Barack Obama had “worshipers” during his campaign? Would you deny that there was an unhealthy cult of personality amongst many of his more ardent supporters? Would you deny that those supporters had unrealistic expectations of him?

There is no difference at all between the Obama Worshipers and the Palin Worshipers beyond being on opposite sides of the political spectrum. You can call my position “hyperbole” if you want but I’ll tell you point blank that some (not all and not most) of the Palin Worshipers on FR are mentally ill.


29 posted on 02/03/2011 8:34:23 AM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Artemis Webb
There is no difference at all between the Obama Worshipers and the Palin Worshipers

Oh really?

Sorry, I'm not buying it. It seems to me the idea of "Palin worship" has become a talking point rather than a serious discussion. Those who use it normally do so in order to silence their opposition here.

The truth? I know of only two or three posters on the entire Palin ping list (which is huge) that fit your description. Most are simply strong supporters, just like you have strong supporters of Reagan here (and likely a few over the top nuts).

My take is there are more (not you) mentally ill posters here that want to take her down. The insanity of half a dozen of those folks far outweighs the insanity of what you call the "woshipers"

30 posted on 02/03/2011 9:51:50 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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