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Karl Rove Now Openly Mocking Palin…
Weasel Zippers ^ | February 28, 2011

Posted on 02/28/2011 7:12:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Rove represents the worst of the elitist GOP establishment.

Via NY Mag

…One week before the 2010 midterm elections, Rove took aim at Sarah Palin, questioning the wisdom of her appearance on a reality show, Sarah Palin’s Alaska, if she really wanted to be taken seriously as a presidential candidate. Palin lacked the “gravitas” to be president, went a subhead in the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph.

Rove later tried wriggling out of his comments, as well as observations he made in a German magazine that tea-partiers weren’t “sophisticated,” being unfamiliar, as Rove was, with intellectuals like the economist Friedrich August von Hayek. But Rove’s backhands weren’t accidental, nor was he the victim of outrageous tabloid reporting. When I bring up his statements about Palin during our interview, Rove says only that he wished he’d made his comments on Fox News instead—before going into a withering impersonation of Palin, recalling a scene from her TV show in which she’s fishing.

“Did you see that?” he says, adopting a high, sniveling Palin accent: “‘Holy crap! That fish hit my thigh! It hurts!’”

“How does that make us comfortable seeing her in the Oval Office?” he asks, disgusted. “You know—‘Holy crap, Putin said something ugly!’”


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To: Huck

SO you can’t even defend Mike Castle....as I knew you couldn’t


51 posted on 02/28/2011 7:42:37 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Mr. Mojo
, I assure you that plenty of Tea Party folks are quite familiar with the works of Hayek, von Mises, and Rothbard.

I have about thirty books by those three, and Carl Menger, Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk. All were geniuses. Many Tea Party supporters are quite familiar with the Austrian School of economics.

As an aside, I consider Mise's Human Action to be a masterpiece of supreme intellectual thought. I my opinion, Mises' is an intellectual equal of Einstein.

52 posted on 02/28/2011 7:43:40 PM PST by sand88
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
And what about the idiots who supported Mike Castle, when he wasn’t good enough to beat Christine O’Donnell in a primary, after representing the voters in Congress and as Governor for decades? He must have been real trash to lose to such a loser, correct?

Yes and no. He was a liberal, who probably could have won statewide. But the tea party movement came upon him, and he got primaried. Which is all well and good, unless of course, you replace him with a moronic grifter with no visible means of income besides chacing tv cameras.

What it shows is that the GOP voters in DE--especially the tea party voters--have poor judgement.

53 posted on 02/28/2011 7:44:21 PM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: CrosscutSaw

“And as a political “architect” he’s been a proven loser.”

Bush vs Gore should have never been close with all those Clinton/Gore scandals. Bush should have won by 5 or 6 points.


54 posted on 02/28/2011 7:44:46 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Huck

My premise is that a) Michael Castle lost all on his own (lack of) merits. b) Blaming teapartiers for his defeat was the kind of denial we seem to see a lot of these days. c) When Romney loses, the same people will be similarly unable to face the facts, and will be looking for scapegoats.


55 posted on 02/28/2011 7:45:18 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Colin Firth Rules!)
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To: Huck
Rove didn't help O'Donnell, that's for sure. Would O'Donnell have won if Rove hadn't gone on the attack? Nope.

“When Palin loses” is my issue with your statement. Firstly, I think she stands good chance of winning. Secondly, I just don't view Rove as significant enough anymore to blame him for anything. His time has come and gone.

However, it's apparent Rove will be an active player in a Romney campaign. When Romney loses, will people be blaming Rove for Romney's loss?

56 posted on 02/28/2011 7:45:27 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Ranjit

Her negatives?

On what policies or stances?

All you clowns out there can’t point to one policy that she is not on the right side of.

If you want to debate who is right on the issues and more importantly will actually make the necessary change lets go.

But if your just going to throw out baseless claims that she is a weak candidate based on nothingness, then you are just another RINO operative and not worth the time of day.


57 posted on 02/28/2011 7:45:27 PM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Will88
No better example than how he used that platform to throw a hissy fit and trash Christine O’Donnell repeatedly on the night of her primary victory over his preferred candidate.

How dare he have the audacity to call the sitting senator from Delaware "unelectable." Oh, wait a minute . . . .

58 posted on 02/28/2011 7:45:38 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove has already chosen his candidate and will spend the next eighteen months trying to chisel away at those threatening his candidate and his return to power and fame. Karl, start representing We the People instead of yourself if you want back into the White House. The whining is unbecoming.


59 posted on 02/28/2011 7:46:07 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Huck

Christine O’Donnell deserves our thanks for ending the political career of Mike Castle, who is probably one of your heroes.


60 posted on 02/28/2011 7:46:17 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: One Name

Karl Rove got us where we are today. And that ain’t good.


61 posted on 02/28/2011 7:46:17 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: Cicero
But Karl Rove disgraced himself by repeatedly attacking her AFTER she was nominated.

The way I remember it, he was a paid analyst on FOX. And what he said was true. I understand your point. I personally wanted to rail against that moron candidate O'Donnell here, but I steeled myself and did the "right" thing and left it alone until after election day. And even then I haven't brought it up much. But it doesn't bother me that Rove told the truth about her.

62 posted on 02/28/2011 7:46:49 PM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: bwc2221

I couldn’t pick Mike Castle out of a police lineup. I’m not sure how having a Marxist DEM in that seat improves our situation, though.


63 posted on 02/28/2011 7:48:03 PM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: 1rudeboy

“Wow. It’s one thing to hate the guy, but entirely another to ignore his achievements. “

His biggest achievement was to ironically create the Tea Party with his and Bush’s policies. HE IS THE REASON we have zero now.


64 posted on 02/28/2011 7:48:18 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FUKR.


65 posted on 02/28/2011 7:48:39 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FrdmLvr

He become Mayor of Carmel California


66 posted on 02/28/2011 7:48:55 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: Huck
What it shows is that the GOP voters in DE--especially the tea party voters--have poor judgement.

More likely it showed that the tea party voters in Delaware wanted a conservative candidate - and not a lib like Mike Castle - but no well known and well qualified candidate was available, so they voted for the best conservative choice they had.

67 posted on 02/28/2011 7:49:09 PM PST by Will88
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To: tennmountainman

Bingo


68 posted on 02/28/2011 7:49:47 PM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Huck

>> He was a liberal, who probably could have won statewide.

... and the instant he’s elected he joins Snowe and Collins and Brown and the other Northeastern liberal (R)s who then become like little children who abuse their power in the caucus. They gum things up and they tip power BACK to the ‘rats... yet the solid (R)s can’t bitchslap them either, because they’re nominally of the same party. Feh.

Who was it that said “I’d rather have forty solid conservatives than fifty RINOs”, or something to that effect? Demint? I agree with him. Scrap the RINO pukes and rebuild around a solid core of ideological conservatives. Any other way is merely driving off the cliff with the emergency brake partially on, rather than reversing the direction of the runaway car.


69 posted on 02/28/2011 7:50:11 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Rational Thought
“When Palin loses” is my issue with your statement. Firstly, I think she stands good chance of winning.

I don't even think she's going to win the nomination. If she does, she will lose the general by at least as much as she and McCain lost the last time.

Secondly, I just don't view Rove as significant enough anymore to blame him for anything. His time has come and gone.

I agree.

70 posted on 02/28/2011 7:50:27 PM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: USSR Didnt Fall

Well said.


71 posted on 02/28/2011 7:50:34 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Huck

‘I’m not sure how having a Marxist DEM in that seat improves our situation, though.’

Ask Karl Rove, he is the one who actually supported the now Senator.


72 posted on 02/28/2011 7:50:46 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Colin Firth Rules!)
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To: tennmountainman
Bush vs Gore should have never been close with all those Clinton/Gore scandals. Bush should have won by 5 or 6 points.

So, in other words . . . when Bush won, he lost . . . because of Rove? If we mash together Bush's Fault® with Rove's Fault®, will we create a black hole that consumes our universe?

73 posted on 02/28/2011 7:51:11 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Huck

I notice when he trashed Odonnell he forgot to mention that he was part of Castle’s campaign and attempted to bribe a local tea party to support the union hack over the more conservative candidate.


74 posted on 02/28/2011 7:51:41 PM PST by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Huck

Mike Castle really “distinguished” himself during the lame duck session.


75 posted on 02/28/2011 7:51:51 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Will88
More likely it showed that the tea party voters in Delaware wanted a conservative candidate - and not a lib like Mike Castle - but no well known and well qualified candidate was available, so they voted for the best conservative choice they had.

And got a Marxist DEM. Brilliant. I can understand that they wanted something better than Castle. But an idiot with no chance of winning is hardly an improvement.

76 posted on 02/28/2011 7:51:58 PM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: 1rudeboy
How dare he have the audacity to call the sitting senator from Delaware "unelectable." Oh, wait a minute . . . .

Lol, of course you missed the point. Rove damaged her chances with his hissy fit on Fox before she even had a chance to give her primary victory speech. Not exactly a team player, that Rove.

77 posted on 02/28/2011 7:52:20 PM PST by Will88
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To: grey_whiskers

I’m sick of these beltway scum. FUKR!


78 posted on 02/28/2011 7:52:35 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Huck

Last time I checked, Whitman and Florina, who Rove supported heavily, lost as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!


79 posted on 02/28/2011 7:53:10 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: bwc2221

He was probably almost as bad as his DEM replacement.


80 posted on 02/28/2011 7:53:28 PM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: tennmountainman

What a load of crap. Like saying the Steelers are responsible for the Packers.


81 posted on 02/28/2011 7:53:51 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove looks and walks like a tutti-frutti.


82 posted on 02/28/2011 7:53:51 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Huck

No matter how solid most of her positions are, I completely agree that she has little to ‘no’ chance of winning the general. I also agree that she will not be our nominee.


83 posted on 02/28/2011 7:53:58 PM PST by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: Huck

What makes an idiot unelectable? You are talking about most of the Senate here.


84 posted on 02/28/2011 7:54:07 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Colin Firth Rules!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rove also said tonight on Fox that Gov. Walker should split the bill. That’s the same talking point the the liberals have been using since our conflict in Wisconsin started.

I’ve lost the last bit of respect that I had for him.


85 posted on 02/28/2011 7:55:14 PM PST by Jean S
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From my vanity An Insomniac's Recap of the Elections:

Let's look again at the races, and about recent history. We can look at the performances of the Establishment Republicans (say, in recent elections), and drill down a bit on this election.

In past elections, (say 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008) we had the following:

2002 -- a year after the 9-11 attacks, and Americans want security, dammit! The GOP gains 8 seats in the House and 2 in the Senate.

2004 -- Presidential Election; the first one after the "Sore Loserman" debacle in Florida in 2000, and the first one after 9-11.

The GOP picks up 3 seats in the House, the Donks lose 2.

The GOP picks up 4 Senate seats, the Donks lose 4.

Bush wins 31 states, but a mere 286 electoral votes, with a bare 50.7% of the popular vote.

2006 -- the Midterm elections for Bush's second term.

The Dems pick up the House, gaining 31 seats, while the GOP loses 30.

The Dems get the Senate, too, winning 6 seats.

This despite the presence of "The Architect" Karl Rove who brags about his detailed knowledge of the ground game.

But (as we will see) he learned his lesson, after a fashion.

2008 -- the annointing of Teh One.

Obama wins 365 electoral votes in 28 states + a single Congressional district in Nebraska. (Nebraska??!!)

The Donks extend their lead in the House, gaining 21 seats.

And in the Senate, they run the table, gaining 8 seats.

The election is marked by numerous unchallenged shenanigans, including voter fraud (voting by felons, votes found in car trunks) in Minnesota, and infamous re-counts in Washington State.

The only thing preventing a total rout is Sarah Palin, who is roundly condemned by the establishment, but targeted by the Dems, after being trashed by advisors lent by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP (as detailed later in Going Rogue).

So, let's look at the record of the Establishment GOP since the first election of George W. Bush (where the victory was so narrow that the Dems complained he was "selected, not elected." (And that, over Clinton's hand-picked successor.)

House: +8 +3 -30 -21 net --> -40
Senate: +2 +4 -6 -8 net --> -8
Heckuva job, Karl.

Compare that to the Tea Parties:

House: +65
Senate: +6
And before you whine, "Hey, no fair! Everyone hates Obama!"

...no, they didn't. Not two years ago. The Donks were so confident, they were still guaranteeing to keep the House as recently as this summer. So, once more I repeat: FUKR.

And, oh, by the way: FUHUCK.

Cheers!

86 posted on 02/28/2011 7:55:38 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From my vanity An Insomniac's Recap of the Elections:

Let's look again at the races, and about recent history. We can look at the performances of the Establishment Republicans (say, in recent elections), and drill down a bit on this election.

In past elections, (say 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008) we had the following:

2002 -- a year after the 9-11 attacks, and Americans want security, dammit! The GOP gains 8 seats in the House and 2 in the Senate.

2004 -- Presidential Election; the first one after the "Sore Loserman" debacle in Florida in 2000, and the first one after 9-11.

The GOP picks up 3 seats in the House, the Donks lose 2.

The GOP picks up 4 Senate seats, the Donks lose 4.

Bush wins 31 states, but a mere 286 electoral votes, with a bare 50.7% of the popular vote.

2006 -- the Midterm elections for Bush's second term.

The Dems pick up the House, gaining 31 seats, while the GOP loses 30.

The Dems get the Senate, too, winning 6 seats.

This despite the presence of "The Architect" Karl Rove who brags about his detailed knowledge of the ground game.

But (as we will see) he learned his lesson, after a fashion.

2008 -- the annointing of Teh One.

Obama wins 365 electoral votes in 28 states + a single Congressional district in Nebraska. (Nebraska??!!)

The Donks extend their lead in the House, gaining 21 seats.

And in the Senate, they run the table, gaining 8 seats.

The election is marked by numerous unchallenged shenanigans, including voter fraud (voting by felons, votes found in car trunks) in Minnesota, and infamous re-counts in Washington State.

The only thing preventing a total rout is Sarah Palin, who is roundly condemned by the establishment, but targeted by the Dems, after being trashed by advisors lent by the Rockefeller wing of the GOP (as detailed later in Going Rogue).

So, let's look at the record of the Establishment GOP since the first election of George W. Bush (where the victory was so narrow that the Dems complained he was "selected, not elected." (And that, over Clinton's hand-picked successor.)

House: +8 +3 -30 -21 net --> -40
Senate: +2 +4 -6 -8 net --> -8
Heckuva job, Karl.

Compare that to the Tea Parties:

House: +65
Senate: +6
And before you whine, "Hey, no fair! Everyone hates Obama!"

...no, they didn't. Not two years ago. The Donks were so confident, they were still guaranteeing to keep the House as recently as this summer. So, once more I repeat: FUKR.

And, oh, by the way: FUHUCK.

Cheers!

87 posted on 02/28/2011 7:55:46 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Will88
Rove damaged her chances with his hissy fit on Fox before she even had a chance to give her primary victory speech.

Lots of FOX views in Delaware, then? /s

88 posted on 02/28/2011 7:55:52 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Huck

Well maybe not. We might blame all those big spending liberal Republicans who hate the tea party.

I hope you aren’t one of those. Something tells me that you are.


89 posted on 02/28/2011 7:55:52 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: Will88
More likely it showed that the tea party voters in Delaware wanted a conservative candidate - and not a lib like Mike Castle - but no well known and well qualified candidate was available, so they voted for the best conservative choice they had.

well stated. the Tea Party did well by Christine. Getting rid of Castle was a wonderful achievement.

It is a waste of time arguing with someone who's heart lies more in line with DU. There are many fake conservatives here who continually attack Liberty loving, Constitutional conservatives. They are full of "leftist" hate, because their heart is with the left (either that, or they are on the payroll of some RINO--lol)

90 posted on 02/28/2011 7:57:45 PM PST by sand88
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
What makes an idiot unelectable? You are talking about most of the Senate here.

That's a fair point. I'd say someone who looks like a twit next to Joe Biden.

91 posted on 02/28/2011 7:59:39 PM PST by Huck (Only 1,967 years until the Reign of Dr. Zaius!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Yeah he was the electoral darling, who crafted a centrist win for the Grand Old Party...

Problem was, even though the debt handwriting was on the wall no one was uncomfortable enough to break some eggs.


92 posted on 02/28/2011 8:00:22 PM PST by One Name
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To: One Name
"Karl had his day in the sun as a shrewd strategist; he can’t convert to the new model. He is a pasty fellow who whispers in the ear of power- he has none himself."

I was wondering who he reminded me of : Grima Wormtongue from Tolkien's LOTR. Thanks for helping me figure that one out. And perhaps Palin is analogous to Éowyn.

93 posted on 02/28/2011 8:01:23 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So what? Really.


94 posted on 02/28/2011 8:01:30 PM PST by Lando Lincoln
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To: grey_whiskers

Great post - just the facts. LOL at “the architect”!


95 posted on 02/28/2011 8:01:39 PM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: 1rudeboy
Lots of FOX views in Delaware, then? /s

Yep, probably lots of Republican Fox viewers in Delaware in proportion to the population of that small state. And there was the buzz and the brush fires created by Rove's hissy fit and that made even more people, in and out of Delaware, aware of his trashing O'Donnell.

96 posted on 02/28/2011 8:01:39 PM PST by Will88
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To: Mr. Mojo
Hey Karl, I assure you that plenty of Tea Party folks are quite familiar with the works of Hayek, von Mises, and Rothbard.

We are also familiar with another elitist who got his due at Lake Como in April 1945. His most famous photo was made in Milan the next day. Rove would do well to learn his history.
97 posted on 02/28/2011 8:03:25 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: Huck
Christine O’Donnell couldn’t defeat a Marxist.

Castle couldn't defeat O'Donnell who couldn't defeat Coons.

98 posted on 02/28/2011 8:03:42 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Huck

‘I’d say someone who looks like a twit next to Joe Biden.’

It seems that, based on relative finish in the elections, Castle supporters were supporting the biggest twit.


99 posted on 02/28/2011 8:03:53 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Colin Firth Rules!)
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To: 1rudeboy

We shall see how the crap unfolds.


100 posted on 02/28/2011 8:04:09 PM PST by tennmountainman
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