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2012: Ron Paul raising money from suckers, everyone hates Sarah Palin (Don't they wish?)
Salon's War Room ^ | March 15, 2011 | Alex Pareene

Posted on 03/16/2011 5:49:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

What's up with the 2012 presidential election? It is basically a huge mess. A bunch of losers -- including actual literal losers like Rick Santorum and Haley Barbour -- are pretending they have a shot at winning anything, every single state wants to hold its primary elections on or near Jan. 1, 2012, and various candidates no one in the party likes have probably the biggest actual bases of support. And Ron Paul apparently raised $1 million last month?

Lovable old Paul -- whose probable entrance into the 2012 field will steal the thunder of all the other wacky libertarian candidates -- raised $1.1 million for his PAC. On Presidents' Day. According to the Atlantic, "Paul will use the money to travel to Iowa and New Hampshire next week." (What expensive trips! Is he traveling in a first-class sleeper on the Taggart Transcontinental?)

Paul's 501(c)4 -- the group that isn't subject to the same onerous fundraising restrictions as the PAC -- raised $6.5 million last year, which beats the PACs of Palin and Pawlenty. So it seems like Paul is serious about running again, which is good news for the blimp rental industry.

Of course, Ron Paul has always been quite good at raising money and getting attention. He does rather less well at winning primaries. But maybe an early start would help, because it looks right now like all the primary elections will happen next February.

The Republican National Committee has new rules saying only Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina can hold their nominating primaries (and caucus) before March 1, 2012. Iowa is set for Feb. 6. Florida -- whoops! -- was scheduled for Jan. 31. But the RNC has apparently persuaded the Florida Senate president to introduce an amendment to existing legislation moving the date to mid-February -- which would put them after Iowa but still in violation of RNC rules. Lots and lots of other states are apparently planning their own primaries and caucuses for Feb. 5. Utah gave up on being early and decided to hold its primary in June, but it seems like everyone else is again just ignoring the rules that allow a certain special precious states to hold its little contests before everyone else.

Oh, and apparently the RNC "quietly adopted rules" saying that states holding primaries before April 2012 have to allocate their delegates proportionally instead of winner-take-all. I think they designed these rules just to make the process as lengthy and painful as possible. As Byron Tau said yesterday:

Such a rule change could mean that candidates who win the early states could nevertheless have trouble assembling the necessary delegates quickly enough, dragging on the primary process.

Exciting! It could even -- not to get everyone's hopes up -- lead to an actual convention floor fight, with some random candidate who never actually won anything outright holding a bunch of precious delegates. Former Republican Sen. Judd Gregg thinks that will be Good News for Sarah Palin!

It also seems like maybe good news for Mike Huckbaee, should he ever decide to stop being Fox News' white born-again male Oprah and make a serious run again. The party establishment largely hates Huckabee, but he came in second or third in 29 states in 2008.

Speaking of people the Republican Party establishment hates, Politico exclusively reported yesterday that the Republican "elite" all think Sarah Palin is stupid and dangerous and vain and shallow. Well, they all use other words but the basic point is that everyone is conceding that liberals were right about her all along.

Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Peter Wehner -- all of these people would be embarrassed about the monster that their years of culture-based populist class warfare against "the elites" created, if they were capable of feeling shame. Instead they are just embarrassed that Palin exists, basically.

Of course, this Politico article about how "the elites" hate her will only make Palin more powerful. She feeds on your attacks!

Palin is a probable loser if she does decide to run -- Americans find her increasingly repellent as her core supporters grow more cultish -- but it will be fun to watch the GOP apparatchiks trip over themselves trying to discredit her without upsetting the riled-up anti-modernity self-pitying masses who make up the party's activist base.

So. This could be a hilarious mess, with reviled outsiders like Palin, Huckabee and Paul running roughshod over the party insiders all the way from the beginning of the year through the August convention ... or Mitt Romney could get this it all sewed up by Memorial Day.


TOPICS: Iowa; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; palin; ronpaul; salon; salon4romney; sarahpalin; stenchofromney
I'm so glad that their hatred blinds them to the truth. Haven't they been writing her political obituary pretty much since the day she was nominated at the convention? I suspect that the "internal polls" show a vastly different picture than what is posted here every day from PPP, Bloomberg, ABC and the others. If not, why bother with attacking her? The reason the jourbalists don't attack the GOP dwarves id becuse they don't matter! If they thought Tim Pawlenty or Rick Santorum (just to name two) had a ghost of a chance at the White House, you'd find out about their dirty laundy in a hurry!
1 posted on 03/16/2011 5:49:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where do they dig up these ‘writers’ expressing so much hate and vileness. God! can’t these people get a life other than hating conservatives and Republicans.


2 posted on 03/16/2011 5:59:07 AM PDT by dirtymac
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
-"...Americans find her increasingly repellent as her core supporters grow more cultish"

Amazing! People that actually believe in freedom, Constitution, and the American way, are now considered "cultish".

3 posted on 03/16/2011 5:59:38 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Alex Pareene

4 posted on 03/16/2011 6:03:28 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, these characters from the non-Fly-Over part of the U.S. are so out of touch with what’s happening in the rest of the country, it staggers the imagination.....


5 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:02 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Palin is a probable loser if she does decide to run — Americans find her increasingly repellent as her core supporters grow more cultish...”

So what are her “core supporters”... Martians?

Why is these articles all sound like they’re written by the same 13 year old smartass, who thinks he/she/it is smarter than anyone else?


6 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:08 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: Pravious

Ah, sorry.

That picture says it all...


7 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:51 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: LibFreeUSA; Pravious

Are the beer bottles hiding his pink triangle and rainbow flag pin?


8 posted on 03/16/2011 6:09:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Ron Paul has always been quite good at raising money and getting attention”

Half-Truth. Paul has been good at raising money. He has been lousy and getting attention and lousy at communicating his message. He and his organization have the right message but package it in the most boring, unattractive package imaginable .... like they want to lose so they can wear it as a badge of honor .... And being libertarian, they didn’t want the power of telling others what to do that comes with winning.


9 posted on 03/16/2011 6:10:50 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article reads like junior high school Slam Book.


10 posted on 03/16/2011 6:11:59 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Pravious
Why is these articles all sound like they’re written by the same 13 year old smartass, who thinks he/she/it is smarter than anyone else?

The writers of these articles seem to simply take the criticisms of other people, like Ron Paul, and attach them to Sarah. Or the other day they tried to take the racist criticisms of Al Sharpton and attack Sarah Palin with them. They just lift the criticisms and use them point blank against Sarah even though no real human has leveled them against her, they accused Sharpton of them.

Pure and absolute lies and vicious attacks. The MSM - 0bama's jealous concubine media - is out of control.

11 posted on 03/16/2011 6:12:15 AM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope after the next presidential election all these writers will remember (when they start their New jobs) to put salt on my fries!


12 posted on 03/16/2011 6:13:45 AM PDT by 2dollarbill
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To: spintreebob

Plus his foreign policy dovetails quite nicely with Cindy Sheehan, Code Pink, International ANSWER and Bradley Manning's...

13 posted on 03/16/2011 6:20:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: 2dollarbill

If Barry wins again, you won’t get any salt on your fries. Heck, you probably won’t be eating fries. Gruel or tree bark would be my guess.


14 posted on 03/16/2011 6:22:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: LibFreeUSA

Oh, he looks like a Republican. /s


15 posted on 03/16/2011 6:28:46 AM PDT by excopconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

including actual literal losers like Rick Santorum and Haley Barbour”

Not sure what the author is getting at here. But while Barbour probably won’t become Prez., he has never lost an election. Santorum, of course, has, so I see the point there. But I think this is an author who didn’t fact check very well.....surprise surprise


16 posted on 03/16/2011 6:45:07 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love Palin. If she runs, I support her - in a primary ro General Election.

Ron Paul is inelectable (unelectable?).


17 posted on 03/16/2011 7:36:26 AM PDT by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: LibFreeUSA

If Buddy Holly were gay, that’s what he’d have looked like. Of course, then the song would have been “Oh, Don”...


18 posted on 03/16/2011 7:43:36 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

They say “a picture is worth a 1,000 words”.


19 posted on 03/16/2011 8:16:19 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Plus his foreign policy dovetails quite nicely with Cindy Sheehan, Code Pink, International ANSWER and Bradley Manning's...

Along with George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and pretty much all the rest of the Founders.

20 posted on 03/16/2011 9:05:51 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: ZULU
Ron Paul is inelectable (unelectable?).

Yes, you can pretty much bet that an electorate stupid enough to elect scum like osama, bush & clinton won't elect a man like Dr. Paul.

21 posted on 03/16/2011 9:10:48 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE

Its not that.

The guy is too old and has no personality.

Unfortunately, the right “presence” is needed to get a candidate elected to office.

And Paul’s views of domestic policies may be right on target, but his position on foreign policy, while in part logical, is in general unrealistic. America isn’t Switzerland.


22 posted on 03/16/2011 10:59:00 AM PDT by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Snarkiest rant ever.


23 posted on 03/16/2011 11:25:36 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Hu's your daddy)
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To: ZULU
The guy is too old and has no personality.

I was at his DC rally back in June of '08. 100 degree plus temps, young, healthy people dropping like flies from heat exhaustion all around, and he wasn't even sweating.

The man was vigorous, energetic, and looked to be in his 60s - much younger looking in person than in photos/video. I wouldn't be surprised if he outlived me, and I'm not even 50.

I doubt you'd get any of his admirers to agree that he has no personality.

Unfortunately, the right “presence” is needed to get a candidate elected to office

Unfortunately, I'd have to agree, but if we can't move beyond this, we'll keep getting people like GWB and McCain as "our" nominees, and the country can't survive many more of them.

...but his position on foreign policy, while in part logical, is in general unrealistic...

30 years ago, I disagreed with him on both foreign and domestic policy. 20 years ago, I disagreed with him on foreign policy. Now, I'm absolutely certain he's dead right on both.

You better hope he's right too - a bankrupt nation can't afford wasting the better part of a trillion dollars a year (and rising) on foreign meddling. It's ending soon, either through a voluntary change to a sane foreign policy, or through economic collapse.

24 posted on 03/16/2011 12:33:34 PM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE

Politics is a strange game and you REALLY can NEVER predict with 100% certainty (even 90%) what will happen.

I wosh you and Mr. Paul luck.

We could do a lot worse - and generally have - at least the for the past four incumbents.


25 posted on 03/16/2011 12:55:22 PM PDT by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
You're saying Presidents Washington, Jefferson and the rest of the founders were anti-Semitic? Interesting.
26 posted on 03/16/2011 1:02:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: ZULU
Thanks for making rational critiques of the good doctor, instead of the usual lies and slander that the small-minded amongst us like to use.

One good thing about the next election is that it'll be hard to do much worse than '08, no matter who gets nominated.

27 posted on 03/16/2011 1:32:30 PM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE

People can’t underestimate Obama or draw too much stock in his depreciated ratings.

He hs a powerful political machine behind him, and the power of the media elites who have sheltered his shadowy past from any intrusive investigations.

He is a very dangerous and evil opponent.


28 posted on 03/16/2011 2:01:20 PM PDT by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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