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Dump “The Donald”
The Moral Liberal ^ | April 14, 2011 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 04/14/2011 9:17:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Listening to and watching Donald Trump talk with Fox News’s Sean Hannity about how rich he is and how smart he is was truly a vomit-inducing moment. The notion that this extremely successful egomaniac would ever be President of the United States is surreal. It’s Mr. Smith Goes to Washington on steroids.

Now we learn that he is going to announce whether he is going to run on the season finale of “The Apprentice.” The show is scheduled to air on May 15. Reportedly he will hold a press conference to announce the decision about being a candidate in the Trump Tower in New York “a few days after” the finale.

This is such a naked sham for the purpose of getting lots of viewers for his show that it should be embarrassing to everyone who has, even momentarily, taken his phony “campaign” to gain the Republican Party’s nomination seriously. Hannity was snookered or, more likely, he was using Trump to hype his show’s ratings and vice versa. In a similar fashion, Fox’s Greta Van Susteren has of late used Trump appearances for her show.

Just as I and others cautioned voters in 2008 that Barack Obama was a completely unknown quantity with a totally fabricated life story, it behooves me to warn voters to GET SERIOUS about Trump.

Running the nation requires credentials that go well beyond being a successful businessman. America has coast-to-coast successful businessmen and women, but if a company’s CEO makes bad decisions, the Board of Directors can fire them. You can’t say “You’re fired!” to the President of the United States until the next election.

Let me get the formalities out of the way. I am not jealous of Donald Trump because he’s rich. Much of the population is richer than me and I could not care less. I understand that Trump has exhibited considerable business acumen, but that is not the same as political acumen, nor does it suggest that it prepares him to deal with heads of state and the nasty events that occur; frequently unexpectedly.

Nor has everything Trump has put his name to been a great success. He gambled on gambling in Atlantic City and that was a bad bet. Fortunately he owed the banks so much money he could write his own ticket. In fairness, all the casinos took a bath. Instead of gambling, the few people visiting Atlantic City these days are there to buy its famous salt water taffy.

Trump is a strident self-promoter. He is bombast. He lacks subtlety which, for his line of work may be a good thing, but for someone to whom we would have to trust the future of the nation, what he lacks most is the experience that a professional politician acquires over time. I hate to admit this, but it is true. The lack of this experience and judgment is blindingly apparent in the current White House resident.

Trump wants to win—all the time. Politicians want to survive with their principles reasonably intact and a fat government pension. It is a whole different mindset. The ones the voters reject tend to become lobbyists.

We have a history of presidents who just stunk up the job because they came to it as engineers like Hoover and Carter or Ivory Tower scholars like Wilson. For a long time, Americans elected a succession of generals because the president’s job was mostly about expanding the size of the nation, generally by shooting our way to the West Coast, or fending off Barbary Pirates, yet another of Thomas Jefferson’s many achievements.

Presidents become celebrities AFTER they’ve been in the office. Few are celebrities going in unless, like Obama, their celebrity is totally manufactured by skilled public relations professionals. After two years in the job, the only things we know for sure about Obama is that he’s a moron, probably a Muslim, and definitely a Marxist.

If you want business acumen, Mitt Romney has it to spare. True, he’s a bit of a RINO, but it’s hard to find a Republican these days who isn’t. Gov. Pawlenty is a politician and that is not a bad thing. Gov. Huckabee was a politician, but is now a successful anchor of his own show on Fox News. He is going to stay put. Rep. Bachman is the political equivalent of your ex-wife, smart and, like Trump, impossible to shut up. There’s a reason we haven’t heard from Sarah Palin lately and that’s because she’s smart enough to not want the job.

I guarantee you that, within one month of his inaugural, you would be kicking yourself for voting for Trump. His incessant need to demonstrate he knows best and is the greatest president ever would be the mirror image of Barack Obama’s crazed ideology.

Right now Trump is a novelty, a distraction, a false hope. There’s plenty of time for the campaign process to sort out who will be the Republican choice. My bet is that Trump will announce he’s not running. If I am wrong, the happiest man in America will be Barack Obama.


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Better Trump than Romney, if that's the choice.
1 posted on 04/14/2011 9:17:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL!!! This is why the Republicans are going to lose come election time. They get all worked up in a hizzy and go shooting all their ammo off in the wrong directions before the fighting has even started.


2 posted on 04/14/2011 9:19:42 PM PDT by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I watched it and he scored points. He most certainly understood getting out front on a message then getting hammered for it.


3 posted on 04/14/2011 9:20:37 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Better Trump than any politically correct politician with absolutely no soul.


4 posted on 04/14/2011 9:21:39 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Trump, so far.


5 posted on 04/14/2011 9:22:57 PM PDT by fullchroma
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who’s the moral liberal???Liberals have no morals.


6 posted on 04/14/2011 9:23:07 PM PDT by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right... and as the article says.. Trump wants to win all the time... they say that as if it is a bad thing.. that is kinda something i would like to see in a president..


7 posted on 04/14/2011 9:23:40 PM PDT by crazyman2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Better Trump than Romney, if that's the choice.

Better arsenic than cyanide? When we could've had a v8? Just sayin'

8 posted on 04/14/2011 9:24:04 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m more concerned about Boehner. He may be costing us seats in November.


9 posted on 04/14/2011 9:25:11 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
After two years in the job, the only things we know for sure about Obama is that he’s a moron, probably a Muslim, and definitely a Marxist.

Alan Caruba, one of my favorite pundits.

10 posted on 04/14/2011 9:25:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RIGHT! Lets all throw away our conservative principles, in some cases a lifetime in support of conservatism, and work to elect a liberal who is closer to the ideology of current occupant of the WH then he will ever be to Reagan.

Lets all join the Trump crusade.

LOL You guys are plain nuts!


11 posted on 04/14/2011 9:26:50 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wait! We already have a knowitall in the White House.

Donald Trump is one of those the Obama contends has made too much money. I believe that Trump will prove Obama wrong, but I don't see Trump as the GOP choice.

12 posted on 04/14/2011 9:27:37 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DONALD TRUMP ON THE ISSUES:

The Real Donald Trump

Iraq, currently occupied by US forces, has $15 trillion in oil reserves, second behind only Saudi Arabia, said Trump.

If the US were to get its hands on some of that oil, it could make money and pay back its allies like the UK for their involvement in the Iraqi invasion and occupation, he said.

Trump mentioned that the US financial cost of invading and occupying Iraq totals $1.5 trillion.

To justify taking Iraqi oil, Trump said if the US were to simply leave Iraq, Iran will invade and take over the country. Letting the oil fall to Iran would be a bad idea, according to Trump.

If the US takes control of Iraqi oil, Trump said he would give some of the oil revenues to Iraq and some of it to the US and its allies.

On Libya, Trump said the US has already spent billions of dollars on the civil war there. However, the US isn’t likely to see a drop of oil from the efforts.

Below are other positions of Trump, stated in previous interviews:

Foreign Policy

- China: Threaten them with a 25 percent import tariff if they refuse to appreciate the yuan faster. The mere threat of a tariff would induce the China to revalue the yuan.

- OPEC: The US economy can’t handle oil prices at $100 per barrel. Make OPEC lower their prices. When pressed for specifics, he didn’t give any details except that if the message is delivered the right way (by him), OPEC would listen. He also said the US protects Saudi Arabia with their soldiers, but the latter doesn’t pay anything for that protection.

- Pakistan: They know where Osama Bin Laden is. Cut off all financial aid to Pakistan until they hand him over.

Wall Street

-No additional regulations. Otherwise, Wall Street wouldn’t be able to compete with London, Zurich, and Hong Kong.

Defense Spending

-Trump implied he’ll increase defense spending, build better weapons, and have better intelligence so that the US military can achieve its goals with fewer human casualties.

Immigration

- The US border with Mexico is a joke. It should be militarized so that no illegal immigrants can come in. Moreover, doing so would stop the burgeoning US-Mexico trade in illegal drugs.

- For illegal aliens already in the US, decide on a case-by-case basis who can stay and who should be deported or jailed. It’s a lengthy process, but Trumps believes this is the best option.

Social Issues

- Pro-life and anti-gay marriage. However, America has bigger problems than these two issues, which shouldn’t be the focus of presidential elections.

Taxes

-Simplify the tax code and make it fairer. When pressed for specifics, Trump didn’t give any details.


13 posted on 04/14/2011 9:32:34 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump may be a democrat Trojan Horse.


14 posted on 04/14/2011 9:34:30 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I watched the 1st part of the interview and LMAO! The way he talks about Obama is priceless. The worst the President ever!!! Loved it...and my fave....”David, “whatever”, who knows how to pronounce his name”. He talks about them like they are losers and they are!!! Face to Face The Donald would make David “Whatever” mess his pants, LOL!


15 posted on 04/14/2011 9:36:38 PM PDT by panthermom (Proud Mom of an Infantry Soldier)
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To: 353FMG

He may also have a full head of hair.


16 posted on 04/14/2011 9:37:11 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s Mr. Smith Goes to Washington on steroids

HELLO...We have a congress that is spending our tax dollars like they are on steriods! And this guy thinks we need a spineless RINO mitten to take back the economy after his policies have ruined MA economy? GIVE ME A BREAK!

17 posted on 04/14/2011 9:38:38 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Tempest

Trump gets results.

I for one am sick to death of poltically correct blathering and calculated postering of career politicians.

I really wish people could get past programmed expectations that politicians are supposed to make you cozy and comfy with longwinded fairytales that map identically to your own rigid reality map.

Trump is the unvarnished real deal—he makes things happen.

You cannot argue with results.

This is what we need.


18 posted on 04/14/2011 9:38:47 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, ya’ll - send those thrills right back down your legs! Did you even listen to the actual words he was saying or were you so dazzled by his bravado that you forgot to actually listen?

First, he said he’s not going to touch Medicare.

Then he said this:

“We go to Iraq. We spend $1.5 trillion. Our senior citizens are dying all over the place. They don’t have any money.”

Straight out of the DNC play book. I think this reveals a whole lot about his his political philosophy.

When asked what it meant to be a conservative, he basically said he’s very, very, very conservative and changed the subject. When asked about his political contributions to liberals, he said it was because he lives in Demo-land - What? Is he supposed to give money to some Republican who’s going to get 1% of the vote? He went on to say that Chuck Schumer is is good friend, demonstrating that he can work with and negotiate with anyone.

As Mark Levin said tonight, “I don’t have time for this crap shoot.”


19 posted on 04/14/2011 9:46:48 PM PDT by Paul Kib (http://whattoreadtoday.blogspot.com/)
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To: 353FMG

Yes, but Myth Romney almost assuredly is.


20 posted on 04/14/2011 9:49:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ('As a kid, I got three meals a day: Oatmeal, miss-a-meal, and no meal.' Mr. T)
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To: 353FMG

Yep.


21 posted on 04/14/2011 9:51:38 PM PDT by madison10 (Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong..)
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To: cycle of discernment

I agree.
I love hearing a man who you know will not back down and who doesn’t shy from making a fool of their opponent because of political correctness. It’s about time.
If nothing else he will let the candidate wanna-bes know that his opinions have a following and they should imitate his p.o.v. if they want people to support them too.


22 posted on 04/14/2011 9:56:18 PM PDT by nakutny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't apologize to the girls. Just vote for Trump. ;-)


23 posted on 04/14/2011 9:56:26 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Better Trump than Romney, if that's the choice.

I absolutely despise Romney. If that's all we got then we really are up the creek.

24 posted on 04/14/2011 10:00:27 PM PDT by Bullish (Obama's obviously drunk at the wheel and should be taken off the road before he gets people killed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Donald Trump = Hillary Clinton.


25 posted on 04/14/2011 10:04:01 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Sarah Palin is above taking the fake high road.)
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To: nakutny

So why does Donald Trump back away from explaining his political support for Hillary Clinton, support which probably continues to this day?

Why does he shy away from explaining anything about his liberal views?


26 posted on 04/14/2011 10:06:51 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Sarah Palin is above taking the fake high road.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trust not in princes. They are but mortal. Any candidate for public office who does not understand the sublime duty of all people to protect human life at all stages should stand on the sidelines. Doesn’t matter how rich or how poor that candidate might be.


27 posted on 04/14/2011 10:07:25 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So you think Trump could be a democrat plant, but you’d still vote for him?


28 posted on 04/14/2011 10:10:16 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Sarah Palin is above taking the fake high road.)
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To: panthermom
Many Freepers responding think they have a clue on how to win the WH, they don't. They think their elbowless front runners have a chance against our sharp elbows Liar in Chief Obama. They don't.
29 posted on 04/14/2011 10:13:05 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: 353FMG

At this point I’d take my chances with Trump over any of the current batch of DC Rinos....


30 posted on 04/14/2011 10:16:13 PM PDT by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tempest; eyedigress; Springfield Reformer

Question:

How many of you would trust Trump to keep his word if he were to get elected?

One of the things he said on Hennety, when asked about his donations to Schumer, Rahm Emmanuel and other democrats, is that he “gets along with everybody”. If you think McCain reaches “across the isle”, wait till Trump gets in there.

I actually like Trump as a businessman and his outspoken, unscripted comments on the issues. But I don’t believe he’s a principled conservative. He’s got an ego bigger than Obama and his number one priority is Trump.


31 posted on 04/14/2011 10:18:37 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: oyez
Yup, the GOP choice will be some elbow less milquetoast who will tell us what a wonderful, articulate, handsome smart man Obama is and how we should be proud and unafraid of the future should he be reelected.
32 posted on 04/14/2011 10:19:47 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: tsowellfan
I’m more concerned about Boehner. He may be costing us seats in November.

Not to mention trillions of dollars before then. He has got to go!

33 posted on 04/14/2011 10:27:12 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: reasonisfaith

I want to vote for Governor Palin or someone similar. It looks like the media and DNC are working their hardest to make that impossible. I know that Romney, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Huckabee and the other dwarves are cucumber sandwiches with mayonaisse on white bread. I know that some of the favorites on here (West, Bachmann and Duncan Hunter) have no more chance than I do. Please advise.


34 posted on 04/14/2011 10:27:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ('As a kid, I got three meals a day: Oatmeal, miss-a-meal, and no meal.' Mr. T)
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To: aquila48
“He’s got an ego bigger than Obama and his number one priority is Trump.”

Above all Trump likes to win. Riddle me this, would you prefer Obama or Trump to negotiate defense treaties with our adversaries? In his interview with “H” he talked about drilling for oil and the environment. His take was interesting, as was his take on Ryan's budget proposal as the opening volley in GOP/Presidential Budget negotiations. Also, regarding donations to the dems. New York like Chicago is dem controlled. I'll leave it at that.

35 posted on 04/14/2011 10:27:54 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unfortunately you can't even get Freepers to agree on Palin. I have been very disappointed at the vitriol that Palin gets on this forum.
36 posted on 04/14/2011 10:29:23 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Chgogal
Yup, the GOP choice will be some elbow less milquetoast who will tell us what a wonderful, articulate, handsome smart man Obama is and how we should be proud and unafraid of the future should he be reelected.

Well, isn't that what a "moral liberal" would want?

37 posted on 04/14/2011 10:29:37 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Reagan Man

You mean strong military, pro-life, deal with China & OPEC, and expand the economy is not conservative?


38 posted on 04/14/2011 10:30:55 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: tsowellfan

+1


39 posted on 04/14/2011 10:31:05 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What guarantee do we have she won’t resign half way through the term? (been there done that)?


40 posted on 04/14/2011 10:34:13 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: Paul Kib

Your report on Trump’s statement: “We go to Iraq. We spend $1.5 trillion. Our senior citizens are dying all over the place. They don’t have any money.”

What I heard: “We go to Iraq. We spend $1.5 trillion. Our CITIES are dying all over the place. They don’t have any money.”

He then goes on to say that if HE took us into Iraq he’d damned well take oil to at least pay us back the $1.5T.

He did earlier say we have to do something about Medicare, but that we have to be careful and should not give Schumer and the Dems a target to use vs. the GOP so they can win elections.

Hopefully, Hannity (or someone) will post the actual transcript to see what he said and be able to read it in context.


41 posted on 04/14/2011 10:34:19 PM PDT by EDINVA (wh)
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To: Prokopton
“Well, isn't that what a “moral liberal” would want?”

Don't you mean immoral liberal? ; )

42 posted on 04/14/2011 10:34:34 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Chgogal
The GOP needs to ignore the “Commie Lobby” MSM if it plans to take the White House ever again. I think they will have Mitt Romney walking on water until the end of the GOP convention only to drop him like a hand full of excrement..
43 posted on 04/14/2011 10:35:26 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: EDINVA
I heard what you heard.
44 posted on 04/14/2011 10:36:10 PM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Bridge_toofar
What guarantee do we have she won’t resign half way through the term? (been there done that)?

You know what wise guy? Sarah Palin resigned her position as Governor Of Alaska for what she believed to be the good of the State Of Alaska.

I have no doubt that if she were to ever resign The Presidency, it would be for the good of The United States Of America.

Now enough with the redundant, hackneyed left-wing talking points. I swallow enough bilge accidentally wading through the pond scum at MSNBC.

45 posted on 04/14/2011 10:41:40 PM PDT by Chunga (Go, Sarah, GO!! - Jim Robinson)
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To: aquila48

One of the things he said on Hennety, when asked about his donations to Schumer, Rahm Emmanuel and other democrats, is that he “gets along with everybody”. If you think McCain reaches “across the isle”, wait till Trump gets in there.
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We live in a Mobocracy, and he is a business man who does business in bastion of liberal politicians who are in practical terms gangsters. With so many rules and regulations business has to make tributes (aka donations) to these political gangsters in office if they ever hope to accomplish anything. The whole damned place is run out of Tammany Hall.


46 posted on 04/14/2011 10:42:06 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: Chgogal

“Riddle me this, would you prefer Obama or Trump to negotiate defense treaties with our adversaries?”

I’ll take Trump over Obama any day. My point, though, was that if people think he’s a reliable conservative, they will be sorely disappointed.

Did you notice during the interview how every question ended up with how great he was? I like confidence, but that’s obsessive self love!


47 posted on 04/14/2011 10:42:55 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Bridge_toofar

‘You mean strong military, pro-life, deal with China & OPEC, and expand the economy is not conservative?’

Sounds like FDR.


48 posted on 04/14/2011 10:45:41 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes he is an ego maniac, yes he is arrogant, but if he can bring down the bambi fraud machine when all the other pubbies are wetting their beds and crying, he has my support.

But, he has to actually do it and not just talk about it. If he just blows smoke and nothing happens than he is worse than the crying bedwetters and he can gfh. I give him three months to do severe damage to bambi, if he cannot put out by then then he is toast as far as I am concerned.


49 posted on 04/14/2011 10:46:33 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Chunga
Stiff arm the lame Palin fetishists they are behind the curve. It's all Bachman now. Trump will be fun to watch . he will be so far up Princess O’s backside she won't be able to sit down . I hope he runs , the debates will be historic. Besides , the other chumps have been in hiding since the crap hit the fan. What a bunch of weenies. I saw Huck tonite . all of a sudden he's all about the Donald.
50 posted on 04/14/2011 10:50:56 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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