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Obama: Donald Trump's birth certificate talk helps me
The Los Angeles Times ^ | April 15, 2011 | James Oliphant

Posted on 04/15/2011 3:37:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The public revival of the so-called “birther” question among some Republicans plays to his political advantage, President Obama says.

Obama told ABC News interviewer George Stephanopoulos that Donald Trump and others are doing themselves no favors in persisting on the issue of the president’s background.

“I think that over the last two and a half years there's been an effort to go at me in a way that is politically expedient in the short-term for Republicans, but creates, I think a problem for them when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was, in Hawaii. He doesn't have horns,” Obama said in the ABC interview.

“We may disagree with him on some issues and we may wish that you know, the unemployment rate was coming down faster and we want him to know his plan on gas prices. But we're not really worrying about conspiracy theories or-- or birth certificates. And so-- I-- I think it presents a problem for them.”

For Obama, the birth-certificate sideshow has become a punch line. Speaking at a fundraiser in Chicago Thursday evening, the president said. “I grew up here in Chicago. I wasn’t born here.” The crowd laughed.

“Just want to be clear,” he said. “I was born in Hawaii. But I became a man here in Chicago.”

Meanwhile, Trump is working the question of his GOP presidential aspirations to his full ratings-seeking advantage. He told Bill Carter of the New York Times Thursday that he may make some sort of announcement regarding his political future on his NBC show “Celebrity Apprentice.”

(And, he just got us to mention the show. He’s a genius.)

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Hawaii; Campaign News; Issues; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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Yeah, that's why all the Obama allies in the world are attacking Donald Trump.
1 posted on 04/15/2011 3:37:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, Barry, it doesn’t.


2 posted on 04/15/2011 3:39:50 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, that is why they are giving Trump all this publicity. It helps their cause.


3 posted on 04/15/2011 3:40:09 PM PDT by Huck (This running things, kid. It ain't all gravy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Helps him what?


4 posted on 04/15/2011 3:41:20 PM PDT by madison10 (Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I was born in Hawaii. But I became a man here in Chicago.”

That's two lies right there.

5 posted on 04/15/2011 3:41:44 PM PDT by Big Bronson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Just want to be clear,” he said.

NOW I believe Trump!

6 posted on 04/15/2011 3:41:47 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah right! So why has Barry spent $2 million in keeping his BC a secret? What is in there in his BC worth $2 million?


7 posted on 04/15/2011 3:43:17 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama can end this quickly, just tell the American people what hospital he was born in and who was present at the time of birth. That’s it. We will verify the information and if found true this matter is over. It’s all up to Obama.


8 posted on 04/15/2011 3:43:17 PM PDT by orinoco
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To: Big Bronson

So, he was born in Hawaii, but “reared” in Chicago - makes sense (LOL)


9 posted on 04/15/2011 3:44:20 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Huck

Yeah I’ve noticed Obama’s surging poll numbers and I’m certain that it’s because of Trump’s efforts to do something that Sarah, Mitt, Newt, Huck, et al have no spine to do. /s


10 posted on 04/15/2011 3:45:26 PM PDT by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Translation: ‘I’m running scared, because I don’t know how to make it seem like a fringe issue anymore.’


11 posted on 04/15/2011 3:46:02 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want to see if we can get them close enough together to form a critical mass of ego and blow them both up.


12 posted on 04/15/2011 3:47:41 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
. . . most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was, in Hawaii. He doesn't have horns,” Obama said in the ABC interview.

Strange that the "I", "I", "I" president is using the third person in that sentence.

13 posted on 04/15/2011 3:47:54 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s why the Obamanation’s Gallup approval numbers are now at 41%, their LOWEST EVER.

Ha ha.

Trump is Zero’s worst enemy.


14 posted on 04/15/2011 3:47:57 PM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s helping Barry so much, he hit a record low in the Gallup poll today.

Barry Dunham: lips moving, lies coming out.


15 posted on 04/15/2011 3:48:12 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: OldNewYork

Exactly.

The BC and other questions about Obama’s past will push Obama into the 30s.
Americans know the country is going in the wrong direction. Obama hiding his past shows he’s “not one of us.”

Obama is a post-American president. Dems and the world thought that’s what they wanted. Huge unemployment, chaos in the middle east, runaway debts sinking us to 3rd world status.

Time to have a recognition of Americanism.


16 posted on 04/15/2011 3:49:16 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: OldNewYork
Jay see Obama's Gallup Poll numbers and asked him if the family bought that HYBRID Mini Van yet.

The CEO of two car companies should have some knowledge if they make one.

17 posted on 04/15/2011 3:49:29 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: tatown

Oh, there are definitely enough chumps out there to make Trump a popular candidate.


18 posted on 04/15/2011 3:52:47 PM PDT by Huck (This running things, kid. It ain't all gravy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess if it helps you, you and your surrogates can stop acting so defensive.


19 posted on 04/15/2011 3:54:28 PM PDT by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Barry could always say that he was going out to his Volt to get the LFBC out of the glove compartment, but unfortunately, it was on fire.
20 posted on 04/15/2011 3:54:53 PM PDT by JPG ("2012 Can't Come Soon Enough" - Sarah Palin)
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To: orinoco

Actually, no, that isn’t it: If his father is actually BHO Sr., he isn’t a natural born citizen as required by the US Constitution. If his father is Frank Marshall Davis, Malcolm X or any of the others names I’ve seen floated, he’s in like Flynn.


21 posted on 04/15/2011 3:55:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ('As a kid, I got three meals a day: Oatmeal, miss-a-meal, and no meal.' Mr. T)
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To: miss marmelstein

One of these days someone is going to slip up and ask the Bamster, “Why don’t you just release the long form birth certificate”.


22 posted on 04/15/2011 3:56:59 PM PDT by Ronin ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves" -- Bertrand de Jouve)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

““We may disagree with him on some issues and we may wish that you know, the unemployment rate was coming down faster and we want him to know his plan on gas prices. But we’re not really worrying about conspiracy theories or— or birth certificates. “

These issues aren’t mutually exclusive. I can worry about unemployment, gas prices and where zero was born all at the same time.

0bummer is clinging to the idea that Americans are foolish enough to fall for misdirection.


23 posted on 04/15/2011 3:57:21 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No way muzzie, you yourself admitted to be ineligable to hold the office of POTUS. Your daddy was never a citizen.
24 posted on 04/15/2011 3:59:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: TigerClaws

His fall is going to be exponential, picking up speed as it happens. The way he’s talked about Paul Ryan recently, and the way he’s projected what his own third world administration is doing onto Republicans comfirms it. Plus silver went up to $42 right after his speechifying, if that tells people anything.


25 posted on 04/15/2011 3:59:25 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: OldNewYork

Confirms.


26 posted on 04/15/2011 4:00:48 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well hell ..., here's some more "help".


Let's examine
I refer you to Birth Certificate Vs. Certification Of Live Birth.
But you STILL WON'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH that

Here is some more information and links


I have several witnesses, that have proven to me that Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Kenya.

First witness, Barack Hussein Obama II himself:
The above artice is also found at FreedomsPhoenix.com.
They have a great spoof Birth Certificate you just gotta' see.
Also view the video at Proof Obama Admits He Was Born In Kenya.


Second witnesses, his mother and father, indirectly through their divorce papers. I believe that "indeterminate person" probably SAW the Obama Dunham Divorce Documents BEFORE Page 11 disappeared and viewed the Kenyan Birth Cerfiticate,
thereby telling Ed Hale
The Obama Dunham Divorce Documents are viewable at this location.
There's a great assumption of the time lime at at link.

Third witness, is Barack Hussein Obama II's grandmother,Sarah Hussein Obama:
View the video Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II at Youtube.com.
Watch and LISTEN to the video BARACK OBAMA - BORN IN KENYA - The Documentary - STUNNING!
and prove it to yourself.
Also watch Affidavit and Tape-Proof Obama Born in Kenya.

The fourth witness, Tim Adams,
(It is now confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008)The Fifth witness, Michelle Obama.
The Sixth Witness, Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego:
The Seventh Witness, James Orengo (the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands):

The Eighth Witness, Lucas Daniel Smith,


Case CLOSED!!!



27 posted on 04/15/2011 4:02:32 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: scooby321

Government Motors was in large part just more wealth redistribution, all with its hallmarks of racial preferences.


28 posted on 04/15/2011 4:04:12 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If it helps you Obama, why did you talk in the third person in that Georgy Snuffleupagus interview?

You couldn't say "I was born in Hawaii." And you're a narcissist who just couldn't use the pronoun "I, I, or I?" LoL. This looks like a hedge that you can say later "I" never said "I" was born in Hawaii...when your house of card crashes.

29 posted on 04/15/2011 4:04:37 PM PDT by Red Steel
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bump


30 posted on 04/15/2011 4:15:25 PM PDT by evad (SHUT IT DOWN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It feels like this country could explode with this monster in the WH - and he’d probably just laugh.

He’s ignoring law, treating fellow Americans as enemies, lying, stealing, spending us into bankruptcy..we’d better hope he doesn’t get his civilian army going or we’ll be back to 1776.

It’s absolutely unbelievable!!


31 posted on 04/15/2011 4:18:55 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unless the GOP grows a pair and becomes as vocal as Trump, by going solo Trump is primarily beneficial to a new leader emerging from the Democrat ranks to replace Obama. That may still "help" Obama by allowing him to be retired by his own party -- thus giving him the opportunity to enjoy Gore-like wealth from speaking engagements and relative freedom from criminal proceedings. That is a big "help". Obama's tongue is forked and the greatest of lies are half-truths.

Of course, if a vocal member of the GOP (or Tea Party) comes to the fore so Trump has to share the limelight on this issue with a real conservative ... then all bets are off then. The damage that delivers to Obama and the Democrats would be devastating. That is what is giving him grey hair. His strategists are holding their collecting breath hoping the GOP remains spineless and the Tea Party leaders don't catch on. (But I'm working on that.)


32 posted on 04/15/2011 4:34:03 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the LATIMES is the same newspaper that during the 2008 presidential campaign WITHHELD a damaging videotape of Obama criticizing Jews in front of a mostly Arab and Muslim crowd, then I have only CONTEMPT for this newspaper, because it abandoned its duty as a newspaper to report the news, no matter who it might hurt.

And now the 2012 presidential campaign season is upon us.

Is the LATIMES going to AGAIN hide and WITHHOLD that 2008 videotape of Obama that if released, would do terrible damage to Obama's quest for a second term?

Again, I have only contempt for the LATIMES, because if they had released the damaging Obama tape back in 2008 as they should have done if they had any guts and had followed the ethics of responsible newspaper reporting by publishing the truth about Obama even if it would have hurt Obama's presidential chances, there is the good chance that Obama would not be President of the United States today, and the United States might NOT be in the chaotic financial and spiritual mess it is in today.

So I say this: One of the key goals of the Republican Party and its supporters during this long 2012 presidential campaign should be to put continuous, tremendous pressure on the LATIMES between now and election day Nov. 2012---over a year away--- to release the 2008 videotape of Obama that shows what a terrible person Obama really is.

33 posted on 04/15/2011 4:51:25 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Huck

And just as many chimps that will keep electing GOP establishment candidates. Luckily for America that number is shrinking.


34 posted on 04/15/2011 4:54:39 PM PDT by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No amount of jockeying or maneuvering by either side can change the stubborn fact that OBAMA WON’T RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!


35 posted on 04/15/2011 4:55:44 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: tatown

That’s really not fair to Gov. Palin. She tried during the 2008 campaign and again in 2010 to “go there” but was squelched by the RINO machine. Look it up.


36 posted on 04/15/2011 4:59:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ('As a kid, I got three meals a day: Oatmeal, miss-a-meal, and no meal.' Mr. T)
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To: tatown

lol


37 posted on 04/15/2011 5:03:09 PM PDT by Huck (This running things, kid. It ain't all gravy.)
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To: Bridge_toofar
So why has Barry spent $2 million in keeping his BC a secret? What is in there in his BC worth $2 million?

This is one of the more disturbing parts of 'birtherism'....I've yet to see anything other than internet postings proving this; NO legs from what I can see.

The thread title may indeed be correct -- this may be a Red Herring of epic brilliance. FReepers are eating up on all this sh*t like starving Ethiopians.

38 posted on 04/15/2011 5:03:50 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She was a much better candidate before she ‘allowed’ the RINO’s to handle her. She’s free to remedy it but she needs to avoid doing things like campaigning for Juan McCain and characterizing the birth certificate issue as a ‘distraction’ and ‘annoying’. Those are very RINOish decisions.


39 posted on 04/15/2011 5:08:23 PM PDT by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: Red Steel

He didn’t say he was born in Hawaii? What exactly did he say?


40 posted on 04/15/2011 5:08:54 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: ErnBatavia

OK so Obama has spent very little to hide his Birth Certificate (BC). So what is the real reason he will not release it? Why create questions in minds of millions of people?

And why Trump can’t find any records of Obama’s birth in the Hawaiian hospitals? And why has no doctor or nurse or delivery room staff has come forward ascertaining the birth? A mulatto child born to a white woman was not a common occurrence in circa 1961 Hawaii, or was it?

And why no one can see his college records? Why are his writings in college are also hidden? Inquiring minds want to know!


41 posted on 04/15/2011 5:25:20 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: Aria

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


42 posted on 04/15/2011 5:33:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ('As a kid, I got three meals a day: Oatmeal, miss-a-meal, and no meal.' Mr. T)
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To: Yosemitest

WOW, Fantastically researched post! Kudos to you!!


43 posted on 04/15/2011 5:36:57 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure that’s why 0 was twitching and blinking like crazy when Steffy asked him about it.


44 posted on 04/15/2011 5:51:52 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Huck

Yeh Barry you look so credible when you start talking about yourself in the 3rd person because if you came right out and said you were born in Hawaii at the Kapiolani Medical Center you would perjure yourself. Trump is your worst nightmare come true. I’ll bet you are out in the Rose Garden right now lighting up the second pack of the day.


45 posted on 04/15/2011 5:59:54 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ErnBatavia

What’s disturbing is your ignorance of nearly 100 lawsuits on Zero’s eligibility these past few years, and that hiring top law firms with Constitutional lawyers actually are expense. Imagine that. Yawn.

2 million is a repeated number from years ago. Price tag is conservative $6-10 million easily.


46 posted on 04/15/2011 6:09:07 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: Aria
He didn’t say he was born in Hawaii? What exactly did he say?


From the Georgy Snuffleupagus interview.

Obama:

“I think that over the last two and a half years there's been an effort to go at me in a way that is politically expedient in the short-term for Republicans. But [it] creates, I think a problem for them when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was, in Hawaii. He-- he doesn't have horns…we're not really worrying about conspiracy theories or-- or birth certificates,” President Obama told me."


To sum up,
"where most people feel...he says he... He-- he... birth certificate."


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2705022/posts

47 posted on 04/15/2011 6:19:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Helps him? Yeah, well Trump is on Hannity right now..... and he’s talking Rezko deal.


48 posted on 04/15/2011 6:20:42 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: ez
No amount of jockeying or maneuvering by either side can change the stubborn fact that OBAMA WON’T RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!
 
Many of us agree with you, but the fact is that the MSM/Left has and will continue to say:   Why, he HAS released his birth certificate, you wacko you.  You try to explain to them the difference between the "COLB" and a LFCOB and their eyes glaze over while they just smile their condescending smile.  Some of them even say something to the effect that folks like Beck, O'Reilly and others disagree and so I should take it up with them!
 
I can't tell you how many people I've talked to that believes that very thing.  I don't know what it will take to get through to a "critical mass" of the citizenry but apparently we haven't done it yet. 
 
Frankly, I don't think the proof of the matter will become available until some time AFTER Obama is either sent packing in the 2012 elections or is no longer in office, if then.
 
 
 
 

49 posted on 04/15/2011 6:28:05 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: OldNewYork

OK, I gotta say that I love my fellow real conservatives, but Glenn Beck’s right: you gotta get off this non-issue.

Not only is it just plain wrong (Google the two newspaper birth announcements if you doubt it), but it’s also stupid and counterproductive to boot.

When you pursue this issue, you hand Obama a huge advantage — it makes you look crazy and him seem like the victim.

There are too many real reasons to object to this Socialist President, IMHO.


50 posted on 04/15/2011 7:47:41 PM PDT by CantStandthe70s
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