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Gov. Bobby Jindal’s Potentially Self-Destructive Support of Birther Bill (They're "concerned")
Color Lines ^ | April 20, 2011 | Jamilah King

Posted on 04/20/2011 9:36:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It looks like Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal is prepared to do what Arizona’s Jan Brewer announced earlier this week that she couldn’t: Pass a birther bill that would require presidential candidates to prove their U.S. citizenship. In Jindal’s case, it’s a bill that could threaten his own presidential ambitions and potentially make it much harder for him to appear on his own state ballot if he ever chose to run.

“It’s not part of our package, but if the Legislature passes it we’ll sign it,” press secretary Kyle Plotkin told the Times-Picayune on Tuesday.

The package that Plotkin is talking about is House Bill 561, which was introduced last week by two Republican lawmakers, Sens. Alan Seabaugh and A.G. Crowe. The bill would require federal candidates — including candidates for the U.S. Senate or House of Representatives — who want to appear on Louisiana ballots to file an affidavit proving their citizenship, reports the Times-Picayune. That affidavit would also need to be accompanied by an “original or certified copy” of the candidate’s birth certificate.

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer made headlines on Monday when she vetoed a similar bill that had passed the state legislature. “I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for president of the greatest and most powerful nation on Earth to submit their ‘early baptismal or circumcision certificates,’ among other records, to the Arizona Secretary of State,” Brewer said after the decision. “This is a bridge too far.”

But for a growing number of states, it’s a bridge that doesn’t reach far enough. At least a dozen similar bills are being considered by legislators in various states, including Missouri, Texas, Georgia and Tennessee. Daily Kos has a rundown of all the birther bills that are spreading across the nation.

Julianne Hing has written before about how in nearly every case, the bill’s backers deny that the bills are politically motivated. Yet critics call the bills thinly veiled attacks on President Obama and his black roots, despite the Hawaiian officials who have repeatedly said that Obama was born in the state. Most recently, billionaire mogul Donald Trump has joined the fray and vowed to pay for his own independent investigation into the president’s citizenship.

Jindal’s support for the bill seems puzzling, but it probably shouldn’t be. The governor’s full name is Piyush “Bobby” Jindal and he is himself the first generation son born to Indian immigrants. Yet he’s already thrown his support behind other controversial GOP efforts, such as the 14th Amendment rollback that would strip citizenship away from U.S.-born children of immigrants. At the time, Jindal’s spokespeople claimed that he’d still be able to retain his citizenship because his mother was a permanent resident when she gave birth to him. But it’s a messy situation nonetheless, and one that could keep the GOP star, who was once pegged for a presidential run, off of his own state ballot.

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TOPICS: Louisiana; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: allegedlyamerican; allegedlyhawaiian; birthcertificate; certifigate; jindal; louisiana; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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To: Plummz

One does NOT need an anchor baby to become US citizen. I entered the US on a student visa. My employer (a large corporation) sponsored me for immigrant visa based on my unusually good skills. After that I had to wait 5 years to apply for a US citizenship which was granted based on 2 US citizens vouch for my character and I had an interview with immigration to test my knowledge of English and the US Constitution. That was many moons ago.


21 posted on 04/20/2011 10:39:33 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann in 2012)
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To: Bridge_toofar

I should add that I did not even become a father until long after becoming a citizen. At the time my child was born, both her parents were US citizens, me being naturalized and mother born & raised in US citizen. So I am assuming my daughter who is studying for a law degree would be eligible to run.


22 posted on 04/20/2011 10:57:11 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann in 2012)
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To: Bridge_toofar
I am assuming my daughter who is studying for a law degree would be eligible to run.

Under anyone's definition of NBC, she would be when old enough.

23 posted on 04/20/2011 11:12:43 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Williams

Exactly! Not "self-destructive" but "self-less". It's a bit like George Washington not pursuing a Kingdom though he doubtless could have had one. The history books will remember Jindal fondly for this.


24 posted on 04/21/2011 12:11:54 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This would be a clever ploy by Jindal. He’s signs the bill then declares for the Presidency which would put all other candidates on the spot and the Obots would be in a conundrum as do they challenge him or not. This would clearly put the focus on Jindal’s non-citizen parents and thus Ø’s alleged father.


25 posted on 04/21/2011 1:05:36 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: so_real; Williams; 2ndDivisionVet; bjorn14
Exactly! Not "self-destructive" but "self-less". It's a bit like George Washington not pursuing a Kingdom though he doubtless could have had one. The history books will remember Jindal fondly for this.

Praying you are correct!

If Jindal loves his country, he will do the statesmanlike and courageous thing.

26 posted on 04/21/2011 1:19:03 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: piytar
" America IS in deep trouble "

America already IS in deep trouble...
27 posted on 04/21/2011 2:50:44 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: plainolamerican
" This one grand event would take our country back from the elitist scumbags in both gangs. R and D. "


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28 posted on 04/21/2011 3:02:32 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: OldNewYork

“As far as I know, no state requires the governor be a natural born citizen.”

Right, it’s only required for Pres and VP. It was just brought up because Jindal was being talked up a lot in ‘08 thru ‘10 as a possible future Pres candidate.


29 posted on 04/21/2011 7:51:37 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: Williams; All

“And IF a “birther” bill would prevent him from running, and he signs it into law, isn’t that a selfless act on his part?”

Yes, totally. It shows what a stand-up guy he is, bless his heart. From his stand on related issues, it seems citizenship and immigration are important causes to him.


30 posted on 04/21/2011 7:55:55 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: TigerClaws

Is Jindal a NBC?


I believe Jindal made an offhand comment once about not running for president, because he isn’t a natural born citizen.

Jindal was born on US soil to parents that were both here legally, but niether of Jindal’s parents were citizens at the time of his birth. It seems Jindal has put some thought into what the term natural born citizen.

None of these laws are making their way into law. Unless they do, it won’t matter a whit.

It will only take 1 state to pass one of these laws for it all to blow up. It won’t matter how far Obama is in LA in the polls, if he refuses to do something simple like produce his birth certificate so he can be on the ballot, alarm bells will go off in all 50 states.


31 posted on 04/21/2011 8:06:01 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: The Cajun

“maybe Bobby Jindal is a politician who puts the Constitution ahead of political ambition”

It’s sad that most immigrants (and their kids) seem to value U.S. citizenship and our Constitution more than a LOT of our own native citizens, who either take them for granted or denigrate them, isn’t it?


32 posted on 04/21/2011 8:11:18 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: OldNewYork
... why would Democrats be so concerned about having to prove their candidate’s eligibility ...

For the same reason they don't want their voters to have to prove themselves qualified or even if they are who they say they are. They are world class cheaters and frauds.

33 posted on 04/21/2011 8:50:42 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: TigerClaws

“Is Jindal a NBC?”

No. While born in this country both his parents were not yet naturalized citizens at the time of his birth.


34 posted on 04/21/2011 11:54:05 AM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: llandres
It’s sad that most immigrants (and their kids) seem to value U.S. citizenship and our Constitution more than a LOT of our own native citizens........

To be honest, I thought of that while I made my post.
I may not be in favor of everything Bobby does, but I think he shows more honor and sincerity than most of our home grown clowns.
Like you said, it is indeed a sad thing.

35 posted on 04/21/2011 1:38:53 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Bachmann, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Kellis91789

“Personally, I’ll be very surprised if Obama can’t produce an undetectable forgery BC by this point in time.”

That’s been my fear for some time. If he and so many others could pull off this elaborate fraud for such a long time, don’t you think they will also have a way to do just as you say, produce an undetectable forgery of the BC before long? That’s why the word needs to get out there about the NBC issue and undisputable fact that BHO has dual citizenship through his alien father. And those with a public forum, Trump and anyone else brave enough, have to also concentrate on that aspect of BHO’s ineligibility - often and vocally.


36 posted on 04/22/2011 12:35:38 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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