Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Palin outlines doctrine for use of force, picks new foreign policy adviser
Hot Air ^ | May 3, 2011 | J.E. Dyer

Posted on 05/03/2011 3:33:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last
How can this be? I was told by "reliable sources" that she is a moron.
1 posted on 05/03/2011 3:33:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I will vote for this pretty moron....just like I voted for that hollywood actor who knew nothing about politics...I think his name was Ronald Reagan.


2 posted on 05/03/2011 3:39:16 PM PDT by oust the louse (We have moved decisively from a Nation of makers to a Nation of takers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Peter Schweizer to advise Sarah Palin.

Very interesting.

3 posted on 05/03/2011 3:40:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
"First, we should only commit our forces when clear and vital American interests are at stake, period. "

What pray tell were the "vital American interests" when she was calling for a Libyan no fly zone?

I also don't see a peep in their about securing either a declaration of war, or authorization from Congress.

Does she think that No Fly Zone didn't need Congressional approval?

4 posted on 05/03/2011 3:42:11 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds good to me.


5 posted on 05/03/2011 3:49:25 PM PDT by Cicero
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Count me in!


6 posted on 05/03/2011 3:50:42 PM PDT by UncleSam (Palinista,Paulite,Trumper, Birther,Proofer,TeaParty-Northside,RackHead and yesterday,called a Moron.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OldDeckHand
What pray tell were the "vital American interests" when she was calling for a Libyan no fly zone?

For the initial concerns, check past news stories from a great number of western countries. However, she wasn't alone in this call for extremely limited action, which was then grossly exceeded by the Obama administration, and against which she then protested.

I also don't see a peep in their about securing either a declaration of war, or authorization from Congress.

Well then I guess she's talking about the powers inherent in the presidency to use armed forces short of a declaration of war, right? You are aware such powers not only exist, but are crucial for a president to use properly in order to prevent the need for congressionally approved, open war - right?

Does she think that No Fly Zone didn't need Congressional approval?

Do you think it does? Why?

7 posted on 05/03/2011 3:51:12 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Talisker
"However, she wasn't alone in this call for extremely limited action.."

You're right - she was right there with Samntha Powers and Hilary Clinton, two other great American conservative thinkers - oh, wait.

"Well then I guess ..."

I stopped reading at "I guess". It's not a very complete "doctrine" if it leaves people to guess, now is it?

"You are aware such powers not only exist, but are crucial for a president to use properly in order to prevent the need for congressionally approved, open war - right? "

What I am aware of is the War Powers Resolution of 1973. I didn't hear Palin calling for a resolution for Libya, did you. How exactly is a no-fly zone over Libya - ""a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

I'm all ears.

"Do you think it does? Why?"

You bet I do, especially when it doesn't meet the criteria outlined in the War Powers Resolution.

8 posted on 05/03/2011 3:57:42 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good that she is getting rid of Johnny McInsanes RINO sell outs.


9 posted on 05/03/2011 4:04:13 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OldDeckHand
The War Powers Act is unconstitutional. Every President since it was passed has treated it as such. The President's power as CinC is not infinite, but it does cover a lot of ground. Congress has some leverage because the President can't do anything for long without an appropriation to fund it. That said, complaining that Presidents haven't complied with the War Powers act is strictly for the tin foil hat fringe.
10 posted on 05/03/2011 4:06:27 PM PDT by fluffdaddy (Who died and made the Supreme Court God?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: OldDeckHand
it doesn't meet the criteria outlined in the War Powers Resolution.

Do you believe the War Powers Resolution is Constitutional?

11 posted on 05/03/2011 4:10:17 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]



No Need to Hide in the Grass
Step Up and Donate


Sponsoring FReepers leapfrog0202 and another person will contribute $10
Each time a new monthly donor signs up!
Get more bang for your buck
Sign up today

Come back, Lazamataz! We miss you.

12 posted on 05/03/2011 4:14:24 PM PDT by TheOldLady (Almost as evil as the Freeper Criminal Mastermind)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: fluffdaddy
"The War Powers Act is unconstitutional. "

You forgot to preface that with "In my opinion". It's pretty clear that it's still good law.

"Every President since it was passed has treated it as such. "

Yes, that's the problem and that's how we end up entangling ourselves in places we have absolutely no business being - Kosovo, Somalia, LIBYA etc, etc.

Clinton has made it pretty clear that if wasn't for the abortion that was Operation Gothic Serpant, he would have unilaterally intervened in Rawanda. Wouldn't that have been swell?

So, if we have presidents that ignore US law for long enough, those laws become dead letters, or something?

Maybe Posse Comitatus is unconstitutional too? Should presidents just ignore that as well?

We need to get back to some basics. If there's not enough popular support to get a congressional authorization to involve ourselves in some military engagement in a faraway land, then we shouldn't do it. We have got to STOP indulging a President's personal whim to play world police.

13 posted on 05/03/2011 4:22:43 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Her 15 minutes of fame have expired, and she’s only in this for the money. I know because CNN, MSNBC, and NYT told me so, several times a day for two years. What I don’t understand is why she would waste her money on a foreign policy adviser; only a candidate would bother, and every democrat with access to a microphone assures us repeatedly that she can’t win and for our own good we should choose a moderate.


14 posted on 05/03/2011 4:26:17 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Da Bilge Troll
"Do you believe the War Powers Resolution is Constitutional? "

See above - I believe that it is just as constitutional as the Posse Comitatus Act. If Congress can limit what the president can do as commander-in-chief domestically it can also limit what he does internationally, right?

The Resolution gives to the president pretty broad latitude for employing force without congressional authorization. What it doesn't do, is give him a blank check where clearly defined American interests aren't at stake. I think all things considered, that's a pretty could compromise and an effective check on executive power.

15 posted on 05/03/2011 4:29:46 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: OldDeckHand

LOL. You’re like a friggin’ rottweiler who won’t let go of a turkey leg!


16 posted on 05/03/2011 4:30:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; OldDeckHand

It’s best to avoid and yard where he’s fenced in! /s


17 posted on 05/03/2011 4:39:12 PM PDT by UncleSam (Palinista,Paulite,Trumper, Birther,Proofer,TeaParty-Northside,RackHead and yesterday,called a Moron.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: OldDeckHand

Ya know, I won’t vote for her in the primaries; if she’s on the ticket for the general, I can pull the lever for her pretty easy though (c’mon, her vs. “a democrat”? no question). What I don’t like is her shift into “polishing” her image for general consumption. Ever sine the “retard” debacle several months back and her talking about the “r-word” at some press conference; blech...More and more she is having to re-adjust her positions as she compromises more and more on WHO SHE IS. I loved the un-polished Sarah Palin much better. Not sure what I am witnessing exactly at this point. A run to the center or new RINO in the making.


18 posted on 05/03/2011 4:39:57 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"LOL. You’re like a friggin’ rottweiler who won’t let go of a turkey leg!"

I call it the way I see it.

But, I'll be fair about it. And, to be fair, I'll admit that every other possible candidate I've heard discuss this, got it dead wrong - except for (Lord forbid) Ron Paul.

In fact, most haven't even commented about it, so I'll give more credit to Palin for at least having a position.

I could never vote for Ron Paul for many reasons, but the biggest reason is he takes things too far, never wanting to get involved anywhere militarily. But, we need to have a return to our "classical liberalism" roots, and shake ourselves free of this neocon mishigas.

19 posted on 05/03/2011 4:45:24 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Michael Barnes

Please! where has she shifted or readjusted her positions? don’t give me what OldD*ickHand or PDSer said or what a LSM source said. Give me specific please? thanks


20 posted on 05/03/2011 5:24:09 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
GOP Club
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson