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Itís hard to win when your motto is ĎItís my turní (Milt Romney the Bob Dole of '12?)
The Washington Times ^ | May 22, 2011 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 05/22/2011 5:19:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Once upon a time there was a president, wavering in popularity. He was deemed by some political pundits as “highly beatable.” He had just done his whole thing with health care, which left voters fuming, and two years before the presidential election, Republicans picked up a slew of seats in the House, taking control.

But then, the Republican Party did the unthinkable: It gave the nomination to a guy because it was essentially “his turn,” and the candidate got shellacked by the incumbent Democratic president.

That president was Bill Clinton; the “It’s His Turn” candidate was Bob Dole; the year, 1996. And 2012 is shaping up to be an awful lot like that election.

In 1994, Mr. Clinton had just tried to jam universal health care down America’s throat. He had cruised to office two years earlier, defeating an unpopular Republican, and had been on top of the world until the mid-terms.

Republicans picked up a shocking 54 House seats and took the chamber for the first time since 1954. In the Senate, they picked up nine seats, taking over that chamber for the first time in eight years. The American voter was angry, and the GOP capitalized immediately, led by a then-young congressman, Newt Gingrich, who helped craft the Contract With America.

Fast forward to 2010. A Democrat had again cruised to office, beating an unpopular (even within his own party) candidate. This time, the president was able to shove a health-care overhaul through a Congress so flush with Democrats that they held a super-majority in the Senate. But the president had over-reached, and voters once again became frustrated, pouring into town halls to vent their anger....

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I don't think we can afford to wait until 2016. I doubt that our country will be recognizable by then. What do you say?
1 posted on 05/22/2011 5:19:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

agree.

dana pe-rino and rino maker karl rove will put forward

“established”

republicans like puslenty and rombot.


2 posted on 05/22/2011 5:24:53 PM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreed. Obama will have done irreparable damage by 2016. We need a real conservative in 2012. We can do a lot better than Willard Romney.


3 posted on 05/22/2011 5:27:34 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
deserving
4 posted on 05/22/2011 5:28:02 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We can’t let him get to where Dole was in 1996 ... he needs to be shown the door in the early state primaries!


5 posted on 05/22/2011 5:28:14 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the article:
"And, oh yeah - former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney,
who couldn’t even defeat a weak Sen. John McCain
for the nomination in 2008 and who has a health-care
problem the size of Texas ...

.... And don’t expect Sarah Palin to take one for the team:
Her chances are far better in 2016, and any day now,
she’ll also announce that she’s going to sit this one out.

Which means it’s 1996 all over again for the Republicans.
They’ll nominate Mr. Romney - Motto: “Eh, It’s His Turn”
- and he’ll lose in a landslide.
And there doesn’t look like there’s anything -
or more importantly, anyone - who can stop it.
"
6 posted on 05/22/2011 5:28:43 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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I was extraordinarily bitter at the GOP leadership for fronting Dole on us. "His turn" indeed. We ended up with 4 more years of the bent one because of it.

I don't like Romney. He isn't electable because since he's been the gov. of Massachusetts, he's pushed through a lot of things that Obama voters would be comfortable with, like his health care thing. Because of that, they won't vote for him, because in there mind, there's no difference between him and Obozo, so why not vote for Obozo?

Another reason I don't like him is because he is too cozy with the left. He had to be to get the things in Mass. through by the state legislature. I don't want my president to be cozy with the left. I want my prez. to grab them by their collective throat, shake them vigorously, throw them against the wall, and repeat as needed until they wise up, stop the gravy train, and close our porous borders. Ain't gonna happen with Romney, which is why he won't get my vote.

7 posted on 05/22/2011 5:29:42 PM PDT by Othniel (There is no god named Allah, and Mohammed is its false prophet.)
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>"I want my prez. to grab them by their collective throat, shake them vigorously, throw them against the wall, and repeat as needed until they wise up, stop the gravy train, and close our porous borders."

And appoint Michael Savage as press secretary!

8 posted on 05/22/2011 5:33:43 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: FrankR


9 posted on 05/22/2011 5:37:10 PM PDT by Diogenesis ( Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Diogenesis

I don’t buy Palin sitting this one out as a cold political calculation. If she sits, it will because of family pressures and concerns.

(And I’m hoping and thinking she’ll run in 2012.)


10 posted on 05/22/2011 5:47:42 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Romney is likely to give us Obama’s second term. The Republican Party needs some hope and change, and Romney isn’t it.


11 posted on 05/22/2011 5:59:16 PM PDT by pallis
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Funny, I’ve long thought the “it’s my turn” candidate was SARAH PALIN.


12 posted on 05/22/2011 6:39:08 PM PDT by newzjunkey (If it's Palin, the question becomes does Obama best Reagan's 49 state sweep.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Willard, it’s your turn EVERY SINGLE DAY to be the biggest tool in the room. What other “turn” do you think you’re entitled to?


13 posted on 05/22/2011 6:52:19 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Othniel

“....I want my prez. to grab them by their collective throat, shake them vigorously, throw them against the wall, and repeat as needed until they wise up, stop the gravy train, and close our porous borders.......”

Alas they can’t wise up. They’re stuck on stupid.


14 posted on 05/22/2011 7:27:07 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I say that the ballot box has never been my primary hope for America, and now is not the time for compromise.

Conservatism will rise to the occasion and if the Republican party does not it is disposable.

15 posted on 05/22/2011 7:37:13 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sorry Willard, this is all you get to be:
16 posted on 05/22/2011 7:41:22 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Red_Devil 232
We can’t let him get to where Dole was in 1996 ... he needs to be shown the door in the early state primaries!

The point isn't the Romney needs to be shown the door before its too late. Its that there's noone else right now so Romney's most likely going to be the guy. After him (and he'll lose IMO) the candidates just get weaker. Sarah's not running, and I don't think she's ready. (I'm waiting with an open mind) There's still time for a suddenly ready up and comer (Gad, Bush disappointed me) but that window is rapidly closing.

17 posted on 05/22/2011 7:45:53 PM PDT by MichiganMan (Oprah: Commercial Beef Agriculture=Bad, Commercial Chicken Agriculture=Good...Wait, WTF???)
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To: MichiganMan

Yeah, right, she’s “not ready”. Another concern troll.


18 posted on 05/22/2011 8:06:44 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ngat
Yeah, right, she’s “not ready”. Another concern troll.

{shrug}Yeah, I'm a troll. Listen, tell you what ngat, let me know if she decides she's ready and runs this term. Then you and I can get together and see which one of us knows what they're talking about, deal?

19 posted on 05/22/2011 8:36:00 PM PDT by MichiganMan (Oprah: Commercial Beef Agriculture=Bad, Commercial Chicken Agriculture=Good...Wait, WTF???)
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To: MichiganMan

I didn’t say you were a regular troll, just a “concern troll”. Go on over to urban dictionary and look it up.


20 posted on 05/22/2011 8:47:00 PM PDT by ngat
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To: MichiganMan

“Sarah’s not running, and I don’t think she’s ready. (I’m waiting with an open mind) There’s still time for a suddenly ready up and comer (Gad, Bush disappointed me) but that window is rapidly closing.”

“Rapidly closing?”

A lot of people in this forum weren’t around in 1968.

Lyndon Johnson had made a dramatic announcement that he would not run for president again.

Eugene McCarthy and Hubert Humphrey were fighting it out for the democratic nomination to replace Johnson (as Richard Nixon was ramping up for his run, too).

Then, almost out of nowhere, a third candidate overshadowed them both:
Robert Kennedy, who had been “waiting in the wings”, so to speak.

I was 18 around then, and not as politically aware as I am today, but I recall that Kennedy wasn’t particularly active in the earliest primaries, but then jumped in later on. He scored a big win in California — and of course, we know what happened that night.

Had he not been killed, Kennedy would almost certainly have gone on to win the nomination and quite possibly may have beaten Richard Nixon as well.

But the point was (and is) that it doesn’t matter so much when you enter the contest, but how well you do once you are in. All to often, the “early runners” burn out and self-destruct.

We’re seeing that with the Republicans right now.
They are falling fast!

It would be to Sarah Palin’s advantage to NOT enter the contest too soon. Let the other losers duke it out — then come in with a bang!

Just sayin’....


21 posted on 05/22/2011 9:37:32 PM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Furthermore, to say let’s replace Obama care with Romney Care..... Yeah that’s a winning ticket! (sarcasm off)

Mitt Romney is the “elitist, Inside the Beltway, Check pant Republicans” choice. He is the next “John McCain throw the election to Obama type” that will without a doubt lose to Obama.

If Mitt Romney is put in, just like McCain, then Obama has already won 2012.

Obama Care is one of Obama’s biggest weak points. Replace Obama Care with Romney Care is NOT a winning ticket.


22 posted on 05/23/2011 3:05:11 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: MichiganMan

Sorry I don’t hold Romney THAT HIGH. I would put Romney close to the bottom of the barrel.

What’s amazing to me thought is that I see most conservatives and people on the right against Romney. Just like McCain. But some how the GOP establishment manages to get their loser candidate (McCain last time) the nomination.

It’s almost as if the primary’s are rigid. For instance, last election most Republicans/Conservatives did not understand how McCain won the nomination? I know prior to McCain getting the nomination... 8 out of 10 Republicans were against McCain! How in the heck did he win it?

Now once McCain got the nomination and he put Palin on the ticket... it changed things with conservatives. Prior to that I just did not understand how McCain won the primaries?

Rest assured if Mitt Romney gets it, then Obama has already won 2012. Oh and our Republic as we know it will be probably over. Hate to say it, but look how much destruction Obama and the congress has done in the last 2 1/2 years.


23 posted on 05/23/2011 3:24:16 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This asinine process that perpetuates the queue of insiders needs to be crushed. If things get worse, so do the consequences.


24 posted on 05/25/2011 12:51:00 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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