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May: A Better Republican Candidate Assessment Predictions And Preferences
Texas GOP Vote ^ | May 24, 2011 | Larry Perrault

Posted on 05/24/2011 9:20:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 05/24/2011 9:20:20 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Rick Perry is our candidate, I say he wins in a landslide.


2 posted on 05/24/2011 9:31:16 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't care who it is. I am ready right now to get it on, and fight the Democrats ... I figure, whatever I decide personally, I could be wrong, and what I think I am going to do this time around is listen to all my fellow Republicans, Tea Party, et all, and listen to their consensus. While in the past, this may not have been the way to go about this - I mean last time around I was for Romney, and McCain got it, and I then jumped with him because of our lady Sarah so I got excited then. My thoughts on this in the past was, I needed to decide on my own and then try to win over everyone else because maybe the others would make a mistake.

But this time around, because of this extreme awareness that I find among active politicos from the Party and from the grass roots, this time it really feels different for me.

This time, I think everyone is going to come to the high noon event, and then a candidate, the best one, is going to emerge. And, I think this time we are all going to get together, sharp as knives, fast draw experts, we are going win in 2012. In fact, it won't even be that hard.

So you all pick who it is. Then it's going to be fun. I trust your judgement. This time.

3 posted on 05/24/2011 9:32:20 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The end part where he talks about Palin seems basically right.


4 posted on 05/24/2011 9:35:23 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: onyx; Virginia Ridgerunner

Palin ping.


5 posted on 05/24/2011 9:42:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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To: truthfreedom
"The end part where he talks about Palin seems basically right."

The entire essay is filled with commonsense.

Of course if he isn't a blathering, blithering, knee-jerk rightwing nut job it just won't cut the mustard with some Freepers.

6 posted on 05/24/2011 9:48:33 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it is too early to analyze much of anything. The field is not set and there are too many variables that still need to work themselves out between now and this coming January.

If the current field is those announced and you throw in a Palin and some others then the nominee should be the one who can bring about the most energy and turnout among those who voted last fall in the GOP landslide.

Conventional wisdom would be Palin. But she is so damaged at the moment and unable to break out of her Dan Quayle persona that there is probably little hope for her.

Bachman and Cain are non starters in the long run because of lack of experience and record. The MSM will destroy them.

The DC and Bush crowd want Romney but it is unlikely the party makes the McCain mistake twice in a row given the hatred of Obama among conservatives. He will also be damaged by Rudy G of NYC apparent run in the early state of New Hampshire. If Romney money and old time GOP connection prevails then Obama wins even with double digit unemployment and inflation. Because Romney makes certain a third party/Tea Party type run. So now what?

Two chances currrently for victory in my opinion. First the candidate needs to be a governor. Someone who has used conservative principles in their states to buck the Obama trend of sending the nation down the tubes. Currently only two people meet that criteria and have not been defined negatively with any success and that is Chris Christie of New Jersey and Rick Perry of Texas. A long shot would also be Scott Walker of Wisconsin.

Everything should be done to talk either Christie or Perry into running. The needs of the nation are to great for them to wait for a non-incumbent election in 2016, there may be no country left by then.


7 posted on 05/24/2011 9:52:34 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can’t imagine that Obama will be re-elected, but lately I have wondered if we will have an election, seriously. So much going on against America that is actually succeeding that it’s stunning.

I too will be voting with the flow so we don’t balcanize over the conservative tier. This election has to be won. Even a RINO is better than a communist institutionaized. Scary times, huh?


8 posted on 05/24/2011 9:55:50 PM PDT by RitaOK
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Actually his numbers for women are incorrect. It's only single women who break strongly for Democrats, and a large part of that advantage is wiped out when you consider a +90% edge among black females is a huge part of that. In any case, it isn't anywhere near 60-40. The Democrats have a far larger gender gap problem than Republicans do.

Bachmann is the person I want to see. They will try to Quayle her as they have -- to some degree successfully -- with Palin, but her bona fides are pretty tough to decertify. Some borderline dull/average types can get a law degree if their families have enough money (John-John comes to mind) but nobody stupid becomes becomes an LL. M.

[Some] Texas FReepers appear not to care for Rick Perry. I actually hope he runs. Whatever his earlier career may have been he is making the right arguments over the last few years. The question is whether he can overcome some animosity from conservatives who don't think he's pure enough in the primaries, and whether Bush-fatigue can be attached to another Texas governor running so soon after 2008.

Contrary to weasel opinion, I don't think this field is weak. All of the announced candidates have stronger credentials than Barry-0 did.

9 posted on 05/24/2011 10:18:14 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: Patrick1

“Everything should be done to talk either Christie or Perry into running. The needs of the nation are to great for them to wait for a non-incumbent election in 2016, there may be no country left by then.”

Why limit the field to either of them? Susana Martinez is a true conservative governor here in New Mexico with a beautiful resume.


10 posted on 05/24/2011 10:20:54 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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Interesting.

This is starting to remind me of some of the ghosts of elections past.

Hermin Cain is the Steve Forbes/Alan Keyes candidate. (Popular with freepers, and doesn't do bad in the polls, can be competitive, won't win the primary).

Romney is the Bush/McCain/Dole (this is very very very bad).

Pawlenty is the Lamar Alexander/Orin Hatch (leans conservative, but not a bedrock guy)

Michelle Backman is the Phil Gramn and Fred Thompson (Very conservative, excites freepers, has experience, but is not the establishment pick).

Newt Gingrich is Harold Stassen/Liz Dole (Best chance has passed).

Ron Paul is Ron Paul (which means he is Ron Paul).

Gary Johnson is Ron Paul (except he doesn't look like him).

We'll see what happens with Palin, but the above don't look to good, my back up is Bachman, but outside of her, I can't say I could visualize Palin picking even one of these guys to even be VP.

11 posted on 05/24/2011 10:34:44 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Patrick1

STOP you endless MSM propaganda of Palin being damaged. You jump from thread to thread with your liberalism. Who do think you are fooling here - with your non stop parroting for the enemy. Your history is known here.


12 posted on 05/24/2011 11:26:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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excelent analysis/comparison:

“I can’t say I could visualize Palin picking even one of these guys to even be VP.”

Isn’t Jar Jar Binks available?


13 posted on 05/24/2011 11:36:25 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Carthego delenda est
Isn’t Jar Jar Binks available?

That would be John Huntsman.....lol.

14 posted on 05/24/2011 11:43:15 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Patrick1
Everything should be done to talk either Christie or Perry into running. The needs of the nation are to great for them to wait for a non-incumbent election in 2016, there may be no country left by then

Christie has no intention of giving up his job, he's only been at it for a couple of years, and to be blunt, every attempt was made, he seems to want to be a kingmaker more then a king right now.

I think Perry is testing the waters, but he doesn't seem to have the desire to go for the brass ring yet either.

These are 2 guys who simply don't want the job, and pushing them, isn't going to make them want it more.

But I wouldn't be surprised if we wind up having to go to the convention without a candidate, which, if we do, all bets are off, and look for a free for all, when suddenly, everyone would decide, why the hell not ?

15 posted on 05/24/2011 11:50:14 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

Hope - Pray...

it’s a long time before a “free for all”....


16 posted on 05/25/2011 12:05:02 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Sonny M

bttt


17 posted on 05/25/2011 4:37:16 AM PDT by petercooper (2012 - Purge the RINO's.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People here don’t like anybody. And the odds are that Romney, whom they really don’t like, will get it. He has the money. So, folks, Romney vs. Obama? That’s not a choice? I beg to differ. You can barf all you want, but I’ll vote for Daffy Duck before I will vote for Obama. Besides, Romney could pull a surprise. How about a Romney-Rubio ticket? Now, there’s food for thought.


18 posted on 05/26/2011 10:04:09 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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People here don’t like anybody. And the odds are that Romney, whom they really don’t like, will get it. He has the money. So, folks, Romney vs. Obama? That’s not a choice? I beg to differ. You can barf all you want, but I’ll vote for Daffy Duck before I will vote for Obama. Besides, Romney could pull a surprise. How about a Romney-Rubio ticket? Now, there’s food for thought.


19 posted on 05/26/2011 10:07:54 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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Senator Rubio barely knows where the men’s room is at the capitol and you want him to be vice president?


20 posted on 05/26/2011 12:32:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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