Skip to comments.Blue state Republicans should NOT be the Presidential nominee
Posted on 06/01/2011 9:45:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
2012 is an election of direction, will we recommit to our original economic, political and social values, or will we accept Obama's "Hope and Change"?
I would offer as a premise the concept that social values are the core of the American government. One of the most important original motivations bringing pilgrims to America was freedom of Religion. People came to the new world to find a place to practice their faith in God. This motivation was so important that all colonies required potential candidates for public office to be a member of a church! In New England, the first property tax adopted to build a public school cited reading the Bible as the reason for the need for building a school! It was a faith in God which anchored all other decisions in the New World.
In 2012 our nation faces squarely a decision and that decision is slanted towards socialism. Obama care has already passed. Any successful repeal of Obama Care will require not only the election of Republican Presidential candidate committed to its repair, but an overwhelming win at the polls by conservatives. We will need sixty plus Senators committed to repeal. And we will need an overwhelming majority in the House. To get these kind of numbers, we will need an exceptional Republican candidate who is not only committed to repeal of Obama Care, but is in possession of a clear vision of a new America, one based on the original foundations of Christianity, constitutional government, and capitalism. This new president must have a deep faith in God, and a understanding of the relationship between individual liberty, self-responsibility, and a domestic free market. The federal government must lose responsibility for important segments of our lives including education and health care.
Blue state Republicans CANNOT be the national leader we need. To be elected to an important position like governor or US senator, or mayor of New York City, in a blue state, a Republican had to forfeit many, if not all social values. In addition, the successful Republican candidate had to make an accommodation with unions, organized labor, and the media influencers within the blue state. Almost by definition, the successful Republican in a blue state had to be a RINO (republican-in-name-only). Blue state Republicans had to lean towards abortion, towards green environmental activists, pro--homosexual causes. While Blue State Republicans might be slightly more conservative than their Democrat opponents in the Blue state, they are the left wing of the Republican Party, One example would be former New York Governor George Pataki who defeated liberal icon Mario Cuomo! Pataki did it, in part, by promising New York citizens a Death Penalty. Once elected, Pataki, a former New York State Senator, crafted a Death Penalty which passed both Houses, and was signed into law. But it was a Death penalty which could NOT BE implemented. The result of Pataki's Death Penalty...not one murderer was executed! Not one. And then it was repealed. Pataki talked tough. But like Rick Perry, he was a wimp.
A blue state Republican might ...and I say might, have a chance to carry his/her state, but if elected, he could not set a new direction. Instead, he would work to implement a less expensive Obama Care.
While social values must be the foundation of our new direction, money is the avenue to manifest the new direction. For this we need a balanced budget amendment. The Republican House can help move our nation towards the new direction now, by refusing to raise the debt ceiling unless there are real, current cuts, and a defunding of the implementation of Obama Care.
As we go through the primary process, first check where the candidates come from. If they come from the north east, the west coast, or other bastions of blue states, cross them off your potential candidate list. Like Mitt Romney, the author of government health care in Massachusetts (the home state of the Kennedy's) the blue state Republican politicians have already sold out.
Blue state people are Marxist lite.
That would get rid of a ton of candidates. We can say good bye to Santorum, Rubio, Duncan Hunter, Michelle Bachmann, Allen West, John Kasich, Bob McDonald, Scott Walker and that is just who I can name off the top of my head. How would it work? All the states that voted for the Democrat for President the previous campaign would be ineligible. It seems unfair to blame a candidate for the stupidity of their constituents. I think this would be a really bad move.
What about Rick Santorum? His social values are impeccable.
He lost his last election in his own state, didn’t he?
Over a social issue. Remember Terry Schiavo? It was a Blue State after all. This was not the intent of your posted article. The writer was saying that Blue State GOP’ers sell out their values to win in these states thus making them junk for POTUS. Rick never sold out.
You missed t-paw. Bachmann I would give a pass to. She has not sold herself out to get her seat. the 6th is about as rabid conservative as they come.
I was at the local goodwill shopping for deals. Someone had donated a Obama HOPE poster (not a spoof the real deal) it was framed and 3.99...
Couple days later the frame was gone and what was left of the “hope” poster was kinda rolled up and stuck on the shelf.
No one in the 6th likes Zero but they are importing the welfare (section 8) by the bus load.
We have so many issues to deal with. Dividing ourselves over red/blue states is not worth our time. Not to mention endanger our own cause.
Congressman Hunter is/was (depending on which one) a Congressman elected by a single district.
Ok so one of my examples is not correct. Duncan Hunter jr. isn’t running anyway.
Any candidate who puts his "social values" above Constitutional conservatism immediately disqualifies himself from 90% of conservative votes.
When the Constitution is upheld, first and foremost, conservative values of all types are upheld.
When people try to govern or legislate their particular "social values", the Constitution is subverted in favor of one segment of the population above another segment, and therefore pushes the country in a non-conservative direction.
"Social" conservatives have cost us election after election over the past forty years, and have delivered the USA into the hands of hard-core communists.
Congressmen don’t count.
Only liberals are against social conservatism.
I did not say that I was against social conservatism. You wrongly inferred that.
Using social conservatism as a leading political platform is a proven losing strategy.
So what is your point about Rick? I cited him as blatant example that proved this article worthless. The writer should have just titled it: “Why I Hate Romney and Christie”. I would have agreed with that. Santorum is one of the few solid Conservative guys in this race.
It wins, and it advances Americanism and the American way of life, advancing it in campaigns, party platform and in the standard by which we choose our canidates is how conservatives fight for America, we don’t need two parties which are Democrats, and Democrats lite.
Rick is probably a nice guy, wonderful family man, and a credit to his Sunday School. That does not make him a good potential political leader. His “social values” are his personal, family, and community business. They are not qualifications to preside over a Constitutional republican government.
RINOS from Red or Blue States need not apply.
If you want to fight social conservatism then you have a Democrat party and a nation wide left, and nationwide media, that devotes itself to that very mission.
You won’t convince conservatives and traditional Americans here, to become liberals.
Anyhoo, going by this theory that we should only run nominees from states that always vote GOP for President...
Unacceptable: McKinley (Ohio), Teddy Roosevelt (New York), Taft (Ohio), Nixon (California), Reagan (California). Coolidge (Vermont) might also make the list, though I suppose you could argue that 1920s Vermont was safe Republican
Accceptable: Landon (Kansas), Goldwater (Arizona), Dole (Kansas), G.H.W.B. (Texas), G.W.B. (Texas), McCain (Arizona)