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GOP Beltway Insiders Krauthammer and Will Describe the Substantive Reasons Sarah Palin Canít Win
Hot Air ^ | June 5, 2011 | Director Blue

Posted on 06/06/2011 8:24:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Charles Krauthammer‘s substantive reasons that Sarah Palin can’t win in 2012:

I think it would make no sense for her to run. I think her chances of winning the nomination are small. The chances of winning the general election are probably nil. I think, for the same reasons you articulated, 60 percent negatives. That’s almost impossible to overcome. And it isn’t as if that is forever. Hillary Clinton had very high negatives at many points in her career. But over time, they tend to soften.

…The problem with her, I think, is that she is not schooled. I don’t mean she didn’t go to the right schools… But when it comes to policies, she’s had two and a half years to school herself, and she hasn’t. And that’s a problem. You want a president who will be able to not have to learn on the job. We’ve already had that… …with President Obama and with others… It’s the lack of effort to school herself and the lack of insight to see that she needs it…

…I think if you’re going to master policy, especially world affairs, you’ve got to know history. As you said, you have to know how things evolved, and she is weak on that. It’s not as if she can’t learn. The fact is it doesn’t appear as if she wants to sort of sit down, spend some months schooling herself, as many people have done in preparing for the presidency. If you’re a governor of any state, you face a narrow range of issues, and you don’t have to deal with the world. It’s incumbent on you to actually learn about it.

So, just to recap, Sarah Palin can’t win against Barack Obama because she has high negatives, she hasn’t “school[ed] herself”, and she’s weak on history. But an incompetent community agitator with no executive experience, no private sector experience and who is an acolyte of Alinsky is qualified because he has a beautiful, cultured speaking voice.

George Will‘s substantive reasons that Sarah Palin can’t win in 2012:

The independent voters have made up their minds about her, and it is a negative judgment they’ve made… After the 2008 campaign she had two things she had to do: she had to go home to Alaska and study, and she had to govern Alaska well. Instead she quit halfway through her first term and shows up in the audience of ‘Dancing with the Stars’ and other distinctly non-presidential venues…

Just to recap: independent voters have a negative opinion of Palin. And the fact that Democrat operatives had filed 18 frivolous lawsuits — all later dismissed — against her (source: Associated Press), which were bankrupting her family, had nothing at all to do with it. That, plus appearing in the audience of Dancing with the Stars, disqualifies her.

Is this really what passes for informed commentary inside the Beltway?

Remember: Krauthammer worked for Walter-Freaking-Mondale in 1980. George Will endorsed Howard Baker in 1980. Both of these guys completely missed the Reagan revolution. Krauthammer and Will are certainly smart dudes, but their political instincts appear to be for s***. Palin can win. Bachmann can win. Cain can win. Ryan can win. Santorum can win. Obama is a sitting duck if confronted with a true, articulate Constitutional conservative.

He’s a walking, talking disaster as President. And everyone knows it.

By the way, I’ve been out of town for a while. How are those Stimulus, HAMP, Cash-for-Clunkers, Weatherization, Green Jobs, Obamacare, “Banking Reform”, drilling moratorium, First-Time Home-Buyer Credit, auto company takeovers and QE2 programs working out?

Hat tips: Mark Levin and Gateway Pundit.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: elites; obama; palin; palin2012; pds; sarahpalin; waronsarah
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Didn't many of these elites back Mr. Obama last go-round?
1 posted on 06/06/2011 8:25:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think she will run. Her latest moves, especially the chase-bus, suggest that she won’t.

Nothing to attack there, folks, as much as I know you would like to (and some, bafflingly, have).


2 posted on 06/06/2011 8:27:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blah blah blah.

Brainwashing propagandist RINO maroons.

Go away.


3 posted on 06/06/2011 8:29:04 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: freedumb2003

I don’t “attack” people for their opinions, I respond to those who denigrate conservatives, like Gov. Sarah Palin.


4 posted on 06/06/2011 8:33:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (How do you starve an Obama supporter? Hide his food stamps under his work boots.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Krauthammer’s made a Dufus statement! Sarah WILL WIN, regardless of whether or not she runs for President.

She is literally destroying the composure of the MSM. I love it, I love it, I love it.

Sarah Palin is having an impact on this election cycle and infuriating the Left and the RINO Pubbies. Both need extreme punishment for their terminal arrogance and she is giving it to them.

I love it, I love it, I love it.

Go Cudda!


5 posted on 06/06/2011 8:34:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: freedumb2003
She's already running, and in a few weeks she'll make that plain to all the idiots who can't see it yet... perhaps because they're still looking for the next "Magic Negro" candidate that will keep the liberals from being mean to us.

;-\

6 posted on 06/06/2011 8:34:55 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I made no suggestion you attacked anyone, 2DV.

I was making a broad statement about those who DO attack.

And you know I have never denigrated Gov. Palin in any post.


7 posted on 06/06/2011 8:35:02 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Instead she quit halfway through her first term and shows up in the audience of ‘Dancing with the Stars’

Umm. No.

8 posted on 06/06/2011 8:35:54 PM PDT by smith288 (Peace at all costs gives you tyranny free of charge)
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To: Gargantua

>>She’s already running, and in a few weeks she’ll make that plain to all the idiots who can’t see it yet...<<

And when she declares she is not running, what will you label people who said she will?


9 posted on 06/06/2011 8:36:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

i used to greatly admire both of them. now, i refuse to watch them at all.
i believe Will said he’d vote for Obama over her, in 2012!!!
and that she shouldn’t be trusted with nucs.
Krauthammer and Will have jumped the shark.

They say:
“I think it would make no sense for her to run. I think her chances of winning the nomination are small. “
I say, after Sarah wins in 2012:
“i think it would make no sense for them to write more. I think the chances of anyone listening to them or taking them seriously are small.”


10 posted on 06/06/2011 8:36:43 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I say we discuss the substantive ways these guys are idiots.


11 posted on 06/06/2011 8:37:22 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

They’re Demwit partisan media shills, and have been for some years.

The Democratic Economist
George F. Will
Thursday, October 4, 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/03/AR2007100302003.html


12 posted on 06/06/2011 8:38:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With friends like the “Republican elitists”, how is the U.S. not finished? The “anti-conservative GOP”, in all of its forms, will help the left destroy the U.S., for the long-term!


13 posted on 06/06/2011 8:38:37 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: freedumb2003

I think the UNdefeated almost makes her enter the race....


14 posted on 06/06/2011 8:39:10 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Krauthammer didnt take the bait on Obama, but George Will sure gushed for him.
The truth is, negatives do matter. If Palin’s negatives are really that high in another 6 months, she wont be able to win. ( Note: I have not seen any consistent polling on her “negatives”) Would I like to have her as president? Of course: I think she’s the best , most articulate potential candidate we’ve come across thus far. (Other than Allen West who probably cant and shouldnt try this go around)
If you want another example of someone with high negatives who everyone (including Rush) said that due to these “negative” numbers she couldnt win, I give you Hillary Clinton....


15 posted on 06/06/2011 8:40:09 PM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Allowing RINO pundits to tell conservatives how to vote is like allowing gay fashion designers to tell straight men how to dress.


16 posted on 06/06/2011 8:40:25 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This elections will formalize the “two -Party” system in the USA as the RinoCrats and Flyover Country...the socialist/fascists versus the Constitutionalists.


17 posted on 06/06/2011 8:40:40 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Elendur

>>Krauthammer and Will have jumped the shark.<<

Krauthammer in particular has gone around the bend, a ‘la McLaughlin.

Does something happen to people when they hit 60 AND are on TV?

Seriesly. I have never seen people slip leftward so much. Not just in their opinions but in coloring their analysis.

Jack Geomond (sp?) was a jerkwad, but he always was objective in his analysis, even then his conclusions went against his liberal views. He called ‘em like he saw ‘em THEN went on about why that was bad.


18 posted on 06/06/2011 8:41:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003
Yeah!! Dude! And when she bakes some cookies and they burn a little on the edges, what will your excuse be then?!

Get lost, tubesock.

;-\/

19 posted on 06/06/2011 8:43:21 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want to know why Krauthamster and Wont seem to always win.
Isn’t there some batting standard, as in Wont’s beloved sport?
Are they, Heaven forbid, experts for life, always aboard the Gravy Train?
Whatta gig, man! Terry Jacks would have loved it!


20 posted on 06/06/2011 8:43:35 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
WHUPASS
21 posted on 06/06/2011 8:43:50 PM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t understand the rationale that says because people stupidly elected an unqualified, inexperienced community organizor the last time, we should by extension overlook any shortcomings Sarah or any other candidates has. The presidency is not an affirmative action, learn on the job resume enhancer. We need someone ready to lead from day one, and yes I have my doubts Sarah is that person. Just because someone says the right things, gives good speeches and draws big crowds does mean they are qualified to run a country of 300M people.


22 posted on 06/06/2011 8:44:01 PM PDT by redangus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, just one FReeper’s opinion:

I LOVE Sarah Palin and regularly contribute to her PAC. That being said, I hope she doesn't run. The MSM and liberals will literally destroy the chance for any polite political discourse if she runs, so insane is their hatred for her.

Do I like the idea of going with a different candidate because the libs have slowly become dangerously unbalanced? No. But that's where we are.

I think Sarah would be much better utilized as the Chairwoman of the RNC. Raising money, energizing the troops, and making kings.

Rest assured, Sarah is more than tough enough to take the heat, it's just that a significant portion (although most assuredly a minority) has been wired to think of her as public enemy #1.

23 posted on 06/06/2011 8:44:21 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: nikos1121

>>I think the UNdefeated almost makes her enter the race....<<

Now it is just handicapping...


24 posted on 06/06/2011 8:44:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Vigilanteman

Great analogy.

Coincidentally it was precisely gay guys who most hated Christine O’Donnell, and seem most insane about Palin.


25 posted on 06/06/2011 8:44:36 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Things that are sooooo yesterday:


26 posted on 06/06/2011 8:47:12 PM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: All

The only thing that would keep Palin from winning are the intellectually lazy idiots out there who call Palin “Stupid” all the while claiming she said she can see Russia from her house, hunts Wolves from Helicopters, believes that she said Dinosaurs roamed the Earth 4,000 years ago, and dozens of other falsehoods that the media choose not to debunk, but spread them like when MSNBC claimed Palin said Africa was a country and had to retract the statement.

Yet there are Millions of people who believe the above lies, and call Palin too stupid to be in office.

Ironic, but unfair.

The media elected a glorified “community organizer” while refusing smearing Palin.

That’s why Palin won’t win - the media and the left will just make up some more crazy claims about her, and the intellectually lazy will stay home or vote for an empty suit with an empty slogan that will bankrupt the country.


27 posted on 06/06/2011 8:49:45 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (David Horowitz: "The War on Sarah Palin is really a War on Conservatives.")
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To: Gargantua

>>Yeah!! Dude! And when she bakes some cookies and they burn a little on the edges, what will your excuse be then?!
Get lost, tubesock.<<

Ah reverse PDS. Because someone makes a completely apolitical prediction about Gov. Palin not running for POTUS, that is a reason for derision and insults.

And I ask again, should I be correct, what shall be your response? Will you blame me for her decision?

Because all the political pointers are pointing to her not running.

And should she toss her hat in the ring, just how has my prediction hurt her prospects? If she is our candidate, I will support her completely with no reservations.

I don’t understand your insult-laden response to a completely objective prediction.


28 posted on 06/06/2011 8:50:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

“I have never seen people slip leftward so much.”
///i agree.
...a very few libs are classical libs with integrity. i think that guy Pat Gladel? is.
and some libs have completely come over from the dark side. Like Roger L Simon. a lot of smart people are moving right. ...but as the article said:

“Remember: Krauthammer worked for Walter-Freaking-Mondale in 1980. George Will endorsed Howard Baker in 1980.”

...so it seems that maybe they never were are true conservative as we thought?
...but i don’t care. i refuse to watch or listen to them,
ever again.
they are simply not important. winning in 2012, with a TRUE conservative, is.


29 posted on 06/06/2011 8:52:32 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Owl_Eagle

She’s young. She can wait until 2016 or 2020 no matter what.


30 posted on 06/06/2011 8:52:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (As long as John Boehner is Speaker, conservatives are screwed. He's a coward and a crybaby.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

>>The only thing that would keep Palin from winning are the intellectually lazy idiots out there who call Palin “Stupid” <<

At this point we have to ask whether she will actually run. After that the speculation becomes almost like predicting the Stock Market (you might know where it will go, but you can’t know where it will go after that..)


31 posted on 06/06/2011 8:52:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

Don’t be concerned.


32 posted on 06/06/2011 8:53:45 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: Fledermaus

>>She’s young. She can wait until 2016 or 2020 no matter what.<<

If Gov. Palin doesn’t run in 2012, it shows some shrewdness (IMHO). If she doesn’t run in 2016/20 depending on who wins it would be a sadness.


33 posted on 06/06/2011 8:54:50 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

Gosh you’re considerate to offer such helpful advice.


34 posted on 06/06/2011 8:56:43 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: freedumb2003

Krauthammer doesn’t know anything. Here’s someone who actually does...

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/06/01/krauthammers-allegiance-to-useless-information/


35 posted on 06/06/2011 8:56:59 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We need to look at the very real probability Gov. Palin won’t run.

I think Mr. Cain is an excellent candidate (irrespective of Gov. Palin’s intentions), but now is the time to look at the field and make some internal decisions.


36 posted on 06/06/2011 8:57:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

You keep looking. Don’t stop.

In fact, go look now ok? :)


37 posted on 06/06/2011 8:58:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: freedumb2003

>And when she declares she is not running, what will you label people who said she will?

Actually that is a good use of the asking to disprove a negative rhetoric.

so, when she declares she IS running, what will you label people who said she would not?


39 posted on 06/06/2011 8:58:56 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: All

We can’t wait until 2016 or 2020 - Obama will have decimated our country into a 3rd world hellhole by then.

Would she want the enormous task of cleaning up an epic mess, like 20% unemployment, food riots, 20% interest rates, $10.00 per gallon gas (when available and rationed)

Because that’s what Obama’s “legacy” will be - the guy who broke America.

By then, I’ll be lounging on a beach out of the country, enjoying retirement, if SS is still solvent.


40 posted on 06/06/2011 9:00:39 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (David Horowitz: "The War on Sarah Palin is really a War on Conservatives.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

>>Gosh you’re considerate to offer such helpful advice.<<

OK, your comment is lost on me. I have said nothing bad about anyone, much less Gov. Palin.

It is always sad when I see a wave of analysis hit the reef of ideology.

Argue my points, not the candidate, please.

“You are wrong. Gov. Palin will run because (argument A with citations, argument B, with citations, et. seq.).”

It amazes me that I get such attacks when I suggest (project) she shall not run.


41 posted on 06/06/2011 9:01:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: bill1952

>>so, when she declares she IS running, what will you label people who said she would not<<

Good predictors. I won’t call them names nor taunt them.


42 posted on 06/06/2011 9:02:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

Sure there is a possibility she won’t run, and she has stated this openly. Can you figure out what she is waiting for?


43 posted on 06/06/2011 9:03:39 PM PDT by ngat
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To: freedumb2003
Nothing to attack there, folks...

I'm sure the Palin crowd will think of something. Sarah is not to be questioned; it is heresy.

44 posted on 06/06/2011 9:04:32 PM PDT by GunRunner (10 Years of FReeping...)
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To: bill1952

>>so, when she declares she IS running, what will you label people who said she would not?<<

OOps, I didn’t note the negative.

People, like me who predicted she would not run, will be labeled “wrong.”

Predicting something and not having it come to pass is not a bad thing. Prior to barry the zero, almost everyone said hitlery would be the candidate. These people were wrong.

But note I have not said anything bad about those who feel Gov. Palin WILL run. I just disagree.

There was a time when that was OK here...


45 posted on 06/06/2011 9:06:00 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hot-air allows this person to post there ?
Can they fire that idiot Allah-pundit and hire this person full time .
I may actually visit the site again.
46 posted on 06/06/2011 9:06:03 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: freedumb2003
"We need to look at the very real probability Gov. Palin won’t run."

We do? Says who? Some "I'm voting for the 'Magic Negro'" Cainiac? Is there the slightest chance that you're pushing, repeatedly and aggressively, this "She isn't going to run, dammit!" horse-snot because you want the inexperienced, never been elected to anything pizza boy for president?

"Apolitical" smokescreen notwithstanding, c'mon... tell the truth now...

;^)

47 posted on 06/06/2011 9:06:25 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: All

OTOH 60% negatives with independents is a somewhat lethal number. Obama never had that.


48 posted on 06/06/2011 9:07:12 PM PDT by Owen
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To: freedumb2003

I’ll argue what I choose to argue, thank you.

I believe you seem rather more determined in your arguments, than simply one motivated by an intellectual debate.

Frankly you seem to be advocating actively and with an untoward amount of determination, as a termite.

If that isn’t too oblique a reference.


49 posted on 06/06/2011 9:07:33 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

>That’s why Palin won’t win - the media and the left will just make up some more crazy claims about her, and the intellectually lazy will stay home or vote for an empty suit with an empty slogan that will bankrupt the country.

??? Please tell me why you think that this will be one degree different with any other conservative candidate put forth?
Get used to it & grow a spine because thats what is going to happen to any Conservative challenger to Hussein.


50 posted on 06/06/2011 9:07:33 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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