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Quick revelation: what the CONgressional Republicans feel about the Tea Party
me ^ | 6/9/2010 | senseiern

Posted on 06/09/2011 5:07:35 AM PDT by Sensei Ern

This is a personal experience so indulge me. Also, I still have a bit of Guinness hangover, so forgive the vague details. However, what I do write is the truth from the events that took place.

Last night, after doing a performance at the Iota Club in Arlington, VA, I needed to relax, to get rid of the adrenaline built up from performing. So, a buddy who came to see me perform invited me to go to a hookah bar nearby.

For those who do not know what hookah is, it is a communal pipe, cooled by water, that you smoke flavored tobacco, called sheesha, from. No, it's not wacky tobacky. Hookah bars have become more popular as the government has come down hard against public smoking.

We enter Gaupos and are seated near a young, 20ish guy who is smoking alone while pounding on his Apple. Being the people person I am, I ask him why he is sitting alone in a hookah bar. He explained he was working and was hookahing while doing so.

He explained he was the aid of a congressman from Pennsylvania. I'm not surprised, because half of DC is on the staff of some congressman. I assumed he was a democrat, because that has been the safe bet for the past few years.

But, he's not. He's a Republican, and works for a Republican congressman.

Anyway, here is where the details are sketchy.

I ask hiom if he is a Ron Paul Republican, because around DC, most of the 20ish Repubs are Ron Paul followers.

He explains he is not, and goes on to say, "I really hate the Tea Party, because they do not know how things work in DC. They do not realize that you need to compromise to get anything done. They are too new to politics to know how things are done."

I explained that he really does not understand the Tea Party. He comments how they love you one moment and hate you the next. I say, "The Tea Party is not new to politics. I personally am not a member of the Tea Party, but I have several friends who are. They are not new to politics. They have been involved in Republican politics for decades. They are just tired of the compromising that the Republicans in congress have done."

He had that deer in the headlights look.

I continued, "Compromise is how we got where we are now. What the Tea Party wants is for the Republicans to stand their ground and not give an inch."

"But, that is not how things get done in DC," he responds.

"We conservatives would rather congress not get ANYTHING done than to compromise."

More deer in the headlights look.


TOPICS: Pennsylvania; Parties; U.S. Congress
KEYWORDS: ignorantsobs; republicrats; teaparty; traitors
Anyway, repubs in congress hate us, because they do not like it that we are upset when they compromise. They think we are new to politics, so they do not take us seriously.

Oh, and Guinness is good, but it tends to dull some memories. I wish I had more of the conversation to relay to you.

1 posted on 06/09/2011 5:07:41 AM PDT by Sensei Ern
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To: Sensei Ern

In the beginning there was ‘Right’ and ‘Wrong’, and we’ve been compromising in the ‘Wrong’ direction ever since.

Satan is the prince of compromise.


2 posted on 06/09/2011 5:13:38 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Sensei Ern

You are right, of course. Gridlock is gold. Our “betters” don’t understand that every law and rule they enact is an infringement on personal liberty.


3 posted on 06/09/2011 5:14:29 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: BufordP

Buford, I do not know if this is worth pingiong anyone, but you are the best at deciding that, so here’s a heads up.


4 posted on 06/09/2011 5:14:40 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: Sensei Ern

Your last sentence summarizes perfectly what the tea parties are about. I’m proud of you for explaining things so well to that guy. We’re all tired of Republicans trying to “get things done”, when most of those things are the wrong things.


5 posted on 06/09/2011 5:14:56 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Perhaps, what bothers me most is that these limp-wristed congressmen are ready to compromise with demoncrats, but they will not compromise with us conservatives and take a stand once in a while.


6 posted on 06/09/2011 5:22:39 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: Sensei Ern
Compromise after compromise….decade after decade, a perfect tsunami of compromise got us where we are now!!

Someone … something has to take a stand and reverse this ‘every-man-for-himself’ mentality in DC.

Be assured, if it was not the Tea Party, it would be something else. NO common sense AMERICAN thinks this is either tolerable or honorable.

America is hemorrhaging stability, credibility, integrity, vitality…..and Liberals stand around applauding… just AS IF it couldn’t be more natural.

For Conservatives, it is UNNATURAL! We think it is past time for a halt to this aberrant, reckless and irresponsible kind of government.

7 posted on 06/09/2011 5:23:04 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: G Larry
Yes, it seems that Republican compromise is most always a move to the left. I wonder if the friendly Republicans wonder if the Dems are in the back room afterward, snickering among themselves about how they rolled the Republicans again.

They might have wised up after John Sununu made the backroom deal to break the "no new taxes" pledge that got his boss fired, but no.

Bet the Dems got a real good snicker out of that one.

8 posted on 06/09/2011 5:23:28 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Sensei Ern

Good going. I do some of my best work while in a post Guinness
condition. Usually mine is brought on by vodka.

Your message contains a clear understanding of our problem with the same old, same old. Now Mr Bigshot Orrin Hatch is trying to take make us all believe that he too is starting to understand what a tea party is.

We need to make sure he is history in 2012.


9 posted on 06/09/2011 5:26:37 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Inman FReepers Meet July 23 in Southern Utah JR Too!)
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To: Sensei Ern
My hope here is that this little turd carried your exact message back to the ears of his boss.

Tho...given that his boss is a professional politician and has poisoned the mind of this little turd with the rubbish of compromise...I don't think it will do much good.

10 posted on 06/09/2011 5:26:48 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be ERADICATED....NOW!!)
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To: Sensei Ern

Guapos has hookah? I didn’t realize that

Or do you mean Gurapos in Court House right by the Wendys?


11 posted on 06/09/2011 5:26:48 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Sensei Ern

Compromise with evil; ends in death.


12 posted on 06/09/2011 5:32:20 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: Sensei Ern

Likewise some patriots have similar feelings about the GOP in general...

Here’s an example by Dr Thomas DiLorenzo...

“It seems to me that the American public has been dumbed down so much by the government schools that they’re just going to go along with this until it either bankrupts us all or we make enough enemies out there that September 11 will seem like child’s play. You can’t do this without making a lot of enemies in the world. That’s my biggest fear — that we won’t get rid of these Sons of Lincoln who run the Republican Party.

I agree with Clyde Wilson that America can’t be saved or returned to its roots until the Republican Party is destroyed.”


13 posted on 06/09/2011 5:32:20 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Sensei Ern
"But, that is not how things get done in DC," he responds.

Yep that is the attitude that got us where were are.

Solution? It is TIME to DownSize DC! Close entire departments, reduce all un-necessary or unconstitutional functions. Eliminate U.S. Dept. of Education (re-education) (including their SWAT team) EPA, OSHA, HS, FDA, etc. Any worthwhile functions can be assumed by the States.

Now the good part. It is TIME to force Congress and the Senate to telecommute most of the year from their home district. Under the thumb of the electorate and away from the lobbyists. The Constitution states that Congress shall meet at least 1 time per year but says nothing about duration. It would require NO Legislation to implement.

The Texas State Legislature meets 1 time every 2 years unless the Governor calls for a special session. That has worked well for a long time. There is no reason that it would not work for the U.S. Government.

It is TIME!

14 posted on 06/09/2011 5:32:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: MadIsh32

Right, Gurapos. Typing on my phone, so editing is not the best.


15 posted on 06/09/2011 5:36:41 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: Sensei Ern
"In any compromise between Good and Evil, it is only Evil that can profit."

-- Ayn Rand

16 posted on 06/09/2011 5:40:24 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Oh, that’s another thing he mentioned. He said he wished some government departments were gone. I mentioned the Department of Education. He said, “It’s too late for getting rid of it.”

I swear, it feels like our leaders in congress are the least ready to go to battle for America. Can you imagine if Eisenhower had said, “It’s too late to retake Europe.” What if Patton had said, “Well, North Africa is gone. Let’s go back home.”


17 posted on 06/09/2011 5:49:52 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: Sensei Ern

“It’s too late for getting rid of it.”

IT IS TIME!


18 posted on 06/09/2011 5:54:31 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Sensei Ern
He explains he is not, and goes on to say, "I really hate the Tea Party, because they do not know how things work in DC. They do not realize that you need to compromise to get anything done. They are too new to politics to know how things are done."

This coming from someone in his 20s.

19 posted on 06/09/2011 6:10:47 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Sensei Ern

Compromise is fine if it is a choice of TV channels or restaurants. No harm done regardless of choice.

But when the choice is financial collapse or spending cuts, compromise is not the answer.

No to a debt increase & yes to DEEP spending, regulation, & bureaucracy cuts.


20 posted on 06/09/2011 6:16:32 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Mister Da

Compromise is the termite of principles. Any time you compromise, you are saying that is something you are not concerned about, because if you cared deeply about something, you would not waver in any way.

As a termite, compromise nibbles away at the base of your standards, and continues to eat away as much as it can, then, when you finally get to things you will not compromise, you no longer have a foundation on which to take a stand.


21 posted on 06/09/2011 6:24:12 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: G Larry

A politician is corruption personified and We The People intend to clean these politicians and their cesspool out.

Investigate, expose, try in court, and send to prison should be our motto.


22 posted on 06/09/2011 6:46:39 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Mister Da

The highway to hell is paved with good intentions. Compromise is the gas station at the rest stop.


23 posted on 06/09/2011 8:28:51 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: Sensei Ern; 1 Olgoat; 103198; 10Ring; 11Bush; 1stbn27; 2ndhandrose; 2SterlingConservatives; ...
Buford, I do not know if this is worth pingiong anyone, but you are the best at deciding that, so here’s a heads up.

I'm not the best at deciding when to ping the DC Chapter list. But I'll ping anyway because it happened in DC, it's germane to our current problems in DC, and it came from an unimpeachable source.
:-)

PING!

24 posted on 06/09/2011 8:45:05 AM PDT by BufordP ("Drink me if you can't take a joke." -- Kool-aid)
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To: Sensei Ern

“you need to compromise to get anything done”

Politicians need to make deals to get things done.

By “compromise” he really means “make a losing deal”, but he doesn’t know it.

Calling losing ‘compromising’ is good for their egos.


25 posted on 06/09/2011 8:55:59 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Sensei Ern
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last."

-- Winston Churchill

26 posted on 06/09/2011 9:18:43 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: Sensei Ern
“Compromise used to mean that half a loaf was better than no bread. Among modern statesmen it really seems to mean that half a loaf is better than a whole loaf.”

-- G.K. Chesterton

27 posted on 06/09/2011 9:21:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Some of us still 'hold these truths to be self-evident'..Enough to save the country? Time will tell.)
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To: Sensei Ern

What that 20-something staffer refuses to acknowledge is that the compromise only goes in one direction, like a ratchet gear. Democrats do not give up an inch. The “midline” for “compromise” gets moved after every concession by the Rs.


28 posted on 06/09/2011 9:38:35 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Dahoser

This coming from someone in his 20s....

...who reads the Gospel as revealed in The Hill newspaper, and Politico website. He might even go as far as talking to the writers for the Weekly Standard (Kristol and Barnes) or the National Review. But he does not access sites like FR, I am sure.


29 posted on 06/09/2011 9:42:52 AM PDT by maica ( Multiculturalism is the smiley face of totalitarianism.)
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To: Sensei Ern

Agree with the comments being posted. Pubs compromise away while Rats do not, and expect the Pubs to do the compromising.

Good to see you have a gig in DC. More bucks than at Dave’s.

[Mr] T


30 posted on 06/09/2011 9:45:25 AM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: Sensei Ern

“Compromise” in DC means the Republicans give in and the Democrats accept the deal. It’s much ike “bipartisanship”.


31 posted on 06/09/2011 1:10:10 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Sensei Ern
"But, that is not how things get done in DC," he responds.

That's what you get when dealing with somebody who drinks from the Potomac.

32 posted on 06/09/2011 6:07:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I hate politically correct sorosmonkey superheroes!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I asked him what he was smoking. He assured me it was double apple sheesha. He must keep the hard stuff at home. Speaking of that, I suspect if we drug tested the staff members of the congressmen, that the congress would need to start looking for new helpers.

The drugs of choice among the younger aids are, pot, coke, and those that want to be “legal”, spice.


33 posted on 06/09/2011 8:46:14 PM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: Sensei Ern

Republicans in Congress? There are tea party reps in Congress in the Republican party so it is not all one thing.

The Rinos hate conservative Republicans - they always have hated conservatives. They hated Reagan. The feeling is quite mutual.


34 posted on 06/09/2011 10:06:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Sensei Ern

I think your response to him was good.

Tea Partiers DO know how “things” work in DC and are fed up with it. Compromise means giving in to the progressives with government always moving to the left, growing, becoming more intrusive and powerful.

And get “things” done? What things? We don’t need more “things” from Washington. The USA would be utopia on earth already if more government involvement in our lives was the answer. Instead, what we’re living now sucks.

I hope the TParty doesn’t lose steam and can continue the cleanup in ‘12. That the House hasn’t defunded ObamaCare by now is a disgrace.


35 posted on 06/09/2011 10:21:01 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: Sensei Ern; BufordP

Thanks for the insight. Bet it was interesting. Hopefully you planted a seed.

However, I don’t believe all of the Republicans hate the Tea Party. Maybe frustrated that they now have to stand their ground with the status quo.

Maybe they’re finally getting the message that we no longer want “business as usual.”

This is what we get for hiring politicians and lawyers. We need more of the “peasants” helping make decisions. Like, bring in a group of ordinary citizens who know how to budget and let them decide which programs we can no longer afford.


36 posted on 06/10/2011 4:06:32 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Americans never quit. ~ General Douglas Macarthur (1880 - 1964))
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To: SaraJohnson

There are some tea party candidates in office, and some non-tea partiers that got elected by tea partiers...take the senator from Mass, who got elected because he promised to be a vote against health care. But, he hates the tea party because we expect him to be conservative, and he isn’t.


37 posted on 06/10/2011 5:41:50 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: Sensei Ern

Yes, Senator Brown was helped into office by the young Tea Party to take the seat of Kennedy away from the Democrats. The Democrats expressed their belief that they owned “Kennedy’s seat.” That election was psychological warfare and it demoralized the Left to kick off the Tea Party and demonstrate it’s power which the media was belittling as “atro-turf” at that point.

He won’t get that support for a re-election.


38 posted on 06/10/2011 7:04:28 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Sensei Ern
"We conservatives would rather congress not get ANYTHING done than to compromise." If this is true, then the Tea Party will be ineffective as a political force. It will achieve nothing, while the liberal welfare state marches on. Congratulations!
39 posted on 06/10/2011 6:46:56 PM PDT by Tom the Redhunter
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To: Tom the Redhunter

No, I believe conservatism can still be done and not compromise. The dems have demonstrated that they can refuse to give an inch in compromise, and still get many liberal items accomplished. If we refuse to compromise, and they refuse to compromise, then nothing gets done. During the time of stalemate, we can argue the conservative viewpoint to get the public on our side. At that time, we will get our conservative issues passed.

And, besides that, when the congress is in stalemate is when business flourishes because business tends to work best in times of stability.


40 posted on 06/11/2011 7:56:44 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Israel, Obama does not speak for me. The 'we' he talks about is himself and the turd he just created)
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To: PoloSec

Compromise is how slaves are created.


41 posted on 06/26/2011 7:01:44 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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