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Time's up Christie and Palin. In or out? (She thinks Gov. Chritie is a conservative!)
WIBC-FM / CNN ^ | September 30, 2011 | S.E. Cupp

Posted on 09/30/2011 1:08:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It's happened. The build-up and anxiety over whether folks like Chris Christie and Sarah Palin are going to throw their hats in the ring for the GOP presidential primary has reached critical mass.

And now, the will-they-or-won't-they game has flipped from fun and energizing to damaging to the party. Christie and Palin now do conservatives more harm than good.

With the question marks still lingering in the ether, and pundits on both sides of the aisle still performing their daily trapeze act -- swinging back and forth between "yes, he's running" and "no, she isn't" -- the focus on Christie and Palin has taken valuable resources and attention away from the rest of the field.

Because of those question marks, conservatives haven't been able to invest fully in the candidates who are running. They haven't been able to imagine one of them as president. They've held back support, money and endorsements, because they still don't know that the field is settled.....

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TOPICS: New Jersey; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2012; christie; freepressforpalin; palin
Sounds like they want us to settle on either Ricardo Romney or Milt Perry.
1 posted on 09/30/2011 1:08:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WTH? I am so sick of the media telling potential candidates that their time is up.
Nope, they only have to declare within what states they are running in that state’s requirements to be in the primary.


2 posted on 09/30/2011 1:10:53 PM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Run Christie run! You will be the best counter-WEIGHT to Mittster, by dividing RINO votes.


3 posted on 09/30/2011 1:13:23 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Peace through strength has worked better than peace via appeasement in history.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christie took on the teachers unions, he pulled his state out of a cap and trade program, and he is pro-life.

He ain’t Michele Bachmann...but he is closer to her than he is to Hussein.

I could live with Christie. That isn’t an endorsement, by the way. :)


4 posted on 09/30/2011 1:14:01 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: federal__reserve

Exactly.


5 posted on 09/30/2011 1:14:13 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Another anit-Palin hate movie came out today in theaters, “Srah Palin-You Betcha!”, pushed by the usual queer suspects.

She can wait another 12 days for the buzz to die down, THEN declare.


6 posted on 09/30/2011 1:14:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“I do believe that there’s a lot of entertainment value and ratings value involved in this quasi-reality show that is being created through the GOP primary at this point,” - Sarah Palin
7 posted on 09/30/2011 1:15:01 PM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I always like to ask these clowns just when it was that Hubert Humphrey entered the 1968 Democrat primaries in 1968. Or when it was that Wendell Wilkie entered the Republican primaries in 1944. Did they have a right to do that?

I always get a blank stare. I'll bet few freepers could answer either question.

8 posted on 09/30/2011 1:15:22 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

With Primaries in January, they better figure it out and do it quick.


9 posted on 09/30/2011 1:16:57 PM PDT by AFveteran (Enraging liberals is simply one of the more enjoyable side effects of my wisdom. -Rush)
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To: Vigilanteman
...their hard on for sports & other gay trivia obfuscates important historical facts.
10 posted on 09/30/2011 1:19:00 PM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: svcw

Bingo, this has not hurt conservatives or the GOP. Christie is not going to run and Sarah does not have to adhere to anyone’s line on running.

Despite the media’s urging/demanding the only deadlines are those of the individual state primaries. Sarah staying out has allowed the media to beat the hell out of Perry rather than her for a change. Not so dumb. Plus he has to improve his game now just to be lackluster.

Unfortunately, his dismal performance has boosted Romney.


11 posted on 09/30/2011 1:19:24 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Vigilanteman
...their hard on for sports & other gay trivia obfuscates important historical facts.
12 posted on 09/30/2011 1:19:24 PM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

CNN....nuff said.

STHU media....the candidates have until mid-October (I believe) to get in, so it’s NOT too late. Stop telling us what candidate will win, or who it should be. WE will decide.


13 posted on 09/30/2011 1:22:00 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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Or when it was that Wendell Wilkie entered the Republican primaries in 1944 1940.

Sorry, the 1944 nomination was fairly predictable.

14 posted on 09/30/2011 1:24:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: tcrlaf
It's funny how all these "hit" books and films were scheduled for release right when all the big political gurus predicted that Sarah Palin would announce her candidacy.

Coincidence? I think not...

15 posted on 09/30/2011 1:24:47 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Being a gun-grabber and pro-WTC mosque aren’t disqualifiers for you?


16 posted on 09/30/2011 1:27:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: svcw

These turds tll us that palin and Christie are doing us more harm that good.

fact is if they were these people would be wanting them to wait until hell froze over.

The liberals want Christie and Palin in now so the real attacks can start.


17 posted on 09/30/2011 1:28:03 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: svcw
WTH? I am so sick of the media telling potential candidates that their time is up

You'd really like what Erick Erickson is doing over at Redstate today then.

I have felt for a while there was something else in play here regarding the timing of Gov. Palin's decision. After witnessing the past few days with Gov. Christie ("I'm a definite no....until tomorrow"), I'm fairly certain there is a lot of behind the scenes positioning going on.

The establishment Republicans seem as concerned as the Democrats with a Palin candidacy, which tells me there could be a major change in "politics as usual" on the arisen.

18 posted on 09/30/2011 1:28:11 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Christie is going to run. Run all the way to here as best he can.


19 posted on 09/30/2011 1:29:34 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: arrogantsob

That’s what has irritated me about the debates. The RINO got clubbed (mostly self-inflicted), but the uberRINO was barely touched and has actually come out standing pretty good. Not the outcome I was looking for.


20 posted on 09/30/2011 1:30:01 PM PDT by AFveteran (Enraging liberals is simply one of the more enjoyable side effects of my wisdom. -Rush)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is S. E. Cupp. Is that Size Eight Cupp?


21 posted on 09/30/2011 1:34:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now they are trying to talk Huckabee into running again. Who next? Mitch D? Bobby J? Haley B? John McC? Jeb B? Tim P?

Anybody but Sarah P.

#RunSarahRun


22 posted on 09/30/2011 1:35:56 PM PDT by GlockLady (Ah Sarah! You make us heartless SOBs proud.)
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To: Rational Thought

I saw Erickson’s absurd posts. What an f-n fat tool.

He lost all credibility (whatever was left) with these childish posts.


23 posted on 09/30/2011 1:40:19 PM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am getting tired of the silliness. At least Christie has been about as plain as he can be that he isn’t running. Sarah won’t say, and it is starting to irritate me.


24 posted on 09/30/2011 1:44:09 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You betcha!


25 posted on 09/30/2011 1:47:14 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin supporters will be saying this next Oct-’she still has time’!


26 posted on 09/30/2011 1:49:52 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Venturer

This tweet helps explain it:

@COTeaTweets
Colorado Tea Tweets
ALERT: HR-2885 is a lynchpin to amnesty. GOP & Dem elite in Congress have united to defeat #teaparty influence.


27 posted on 09/30/2011 1:52:19 PM PDT by GlockLady (Ah Sarah! You make us heartless SOBs proud.)
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To: MEGoody

At least Christie has been about as plain as he can be that he isn’t running.
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That hasn’t stopped the speculating (this thread for instance) plus the rumor is he may still get in next week.

You can be sure that once Sarah decides, either way, there will be no cause to think she’ll change her mind.


28 posted on 09/30/2011 1:54:10 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012 - GAME ON!!)
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To: MEGoody
Why be irritated? If she declares, she declares.

Because of those question marks, conservatives haven't been able to invest fully in the candidates who are running. They haven't been able to imagine one of them as president.

(snip)

How sincere will it look, after all, in two months when the field is set and both are absent from it, and conservatives suddenly try to pretend that they are satisfied and enthusiastic about Rick Perry, Mitt Romney or Michele Bachmann?

Cupp unintentionally makes good points here. If the current field was truly strong, would we have to imagine one of them as President? Why would we have to pretend to be enthusiastic about one of them?

It seems that many (including myself) are genuinely dissatisfied with our choices (thus far). Combined with the mantras from other campaigns and the media ("it's too late" or "the latest CNN poll says 179% of voters don't want Palin to run"), it's easy to feel irritated. Just remember that the first elections are 4 months away and should Palin decide against running, there is more than ample time to make a decision on who to settle on, regardless of what the media says.

29 posted on 09/30/2011 2:14:56 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If it comes down to Perry v Romney, Romney will win. It all reminds me of 2008, when denial was not just a river in Egypt. No one could believe that the field was all we had to choose from.

People thought someone would show up and give us a better option. Fred Thompson turned out to be a dud, the field turned out to be the field, and we ended up with McCain.

This time around, some folks hope Christie will get in. Others hope Palin will get in. I suspect what you see is what you get, and it will end up being Romney.

This is great news for the DEMs. The GOP is in utter disarray, and is not prepared to capitalize on this great opportunity.

30 posted on 09/30/2011 2:24:16 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: Rational Thought
It seems that many (including myself) are genuinely dissatisfied with our choices (thus far).

It's true. Rush Limbaugh can deny it all he wants, but we have a pathetically weak field, AS WE DID LAST TIME. The GOP is a disgrace. The DEMs are only in business because the GOP is so pathetically unprepared to capitalize.

Meanwhile, if FR is any guide (It might not be), everyone is a RINO--no one is worthy. That's how we ended up with McCain last time, and it's how we'll end up with Romney this time.

If the Tea Party wants a credible presidential candidate, they should get someone to run for governor, serve, establish a record of achievement, THEN run for president. If it comes down to Romney vs Cain in the primaries, I fully expect Romney to prevail, while I sit out the primaries.

31 posted on 09/30/2011 2:29:16 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Wow, how original /s

I think Christie will stick to his same answer: NO.

And it's just as well. We like him here in NJ. Let the Tea Party nominate Michelle Bachmann, or whoever their latest hero is, and see how that turns out. 9-9-9? Nat'l sales tax AND an income tax anyone? Great idea!

By the way, Lazlo, who are you supporting?

32 posted on 09/30/2011 2:32:22 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: Huck
By the way, Lazlo, who are you supporting?

You support your hometown hero, I will support mine.


33 posted on 09/30/2011 2:46:14 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
lol. I support my hometown hero staying home in NJ! I have been PRAYING that my 49 year old governor can withstand the intense pressure and flattery and stay here.

Santorum, eh? That's fine. It's a dodge, supporting someone with no shot. Avoids making a real choice.

But that's fine. I'm in the same boat. When the primaries hit NJ this year, there is a good chance I won't bother. As of now, I'll vote in the general for whatever clown the GOP throws up, but I have no use for any of them.

34 posted on 09/30/2011 2:54:22 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: Huck

hit the primaries NEXT year...you know what i mean.


35 posted on 09/30/2011 2:54:55 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: nhwingut; Rational Thought

I’ve been watching those all day too. Disreputable twisting of her words into a promise she never made. Eric has lost what little credibility he still had with me. It’s just dishonest, what he’s doing. Pure psych ops, and not effective with anyone over, say, 10 years old.


36 posted on 09/30/2011 2:59:03 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Huck
Santorum, eh? That's fine. It's a dodge, supporting someone with no shot.

First off, Christie isn't running so that isn't even on the menu. Secondly, Santorum has a shot still. Remember the Rat Primary 1992? Clinton was way at the back of the pack. A total joke running to get his name known. As the frontrunners chewed themselves up and the base voters lost interest in them, Slick snuck in and started winning Primaries. After debates, Rick gets a bump in the polls after people hear what he has to say. He is not out of this till he waives the white flag.

37 posted on 09/30/2011 3:07:12 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: MEGoody
Sarah won’t say, and it is starting to irritate me.

And the press has hammered that with the INTENT that you become annoyed. Think about it, what else have they EVER kept in the forefront for more than a couple news cycles?

38 posted on 09/30/2011 3:11:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Lazlo in PA
First off, Christie isn't running so that isn't even on the menu.

Well that's true. The threat is out there, though, and you are the one who brought him up--not me.

Secondly, Santorum has a shot still. Remember the Rat Primary 1992? Clinton was way at the back of the pack. A total joke running to get his name known. As the frontrunners chewed themselves up and the base voters lost interest in them, Slick snuck in and started winning Primaries.

That's true. But Clinton, say what you will about him, had a special gift. I can still remember seeing him on C-Span, all those years ago, in a gymnasium in NH. I was in my 20s, a noob to politics and life in general. I was already a freedom loving anti-socialist, but I could see that Clinton had talent, and I judged at that moment he would be reckoned with. Santorum, whatever his charms, doesn't rise to that level. Sorry, he just doesn't have "it."

After debates, Rick gets a bump in the polls after people hear what he has to say. He is not out of this till he waives the white flag.

That's fine. Support him all you want. He's got no shot. Zero. You might as well be pissant pimping old what's his name--Duncan Hunter?

39 posted on 09/30/2011 3:22:55 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whites of their eyes. Only then.


40 posted on 09/30/2011 3:48:41 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The whining has reached deafening levels.


41 posted on 09/30/2011 3:54:27 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Huck

We are in the same age bracket. I was in college when Slick got elected in ‘92. Out of 30+ brothers in our house, there were only 2 that voted Bush. Me and one other guy. Today, most of those guys are right wingers. Paying taxes and raising kids wakes people up, and some of those guys were almost Socialists 20 years ago.

I get what you are saying but the difference between me and good ol’ Pissy is that once Santorum is out, I will move on to the most viable Conservative we can find. Probably Cain, if the $#!t hits the fan, Perry. Can’t do Myth right now and until Christie or Palin get in, I don’t even care about them. The grass is always greener for some but I will work with what I got to choose from. For crying out loud there are people pining for Jeb Bush in editorials.

BTW, the wife and I are heading out to dinner with friends who usually drag us out to the clubs. I should be good and tuned up when I get back. If I have the wherewithal to type, I will be spinning some gold on FR. You will have to check back later to see what that train wreck looks like. LOL.


42 posted on 09/30/2011 4:24:19 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

lol. Good to hear from you FRiend. Be good and have fun :-)


43 posted on 09/30/2011 4:34:52 PM PDT by Huck (Save a pretzel for the gas jets!!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Think about it, what else have they EVER kept in the forefront for more than a couple news cycles?

Yes, to some degree you are right. And I can also blame the people here on FR who keep posting stuff about her. And I can blame her for not either announcing or simply staying out of the limelight so she can't be repeatedly asked.

44 posted on 10/03/2011 6:04:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
You could blame a lot of people but, why would you? But it is your choice.

Have a nice day.

45 posted on 10/03/2011 6:23:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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