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If you are a Palin Patriot what should you do now?
Nolan Chart ^ | October 9, 2011 | Mark Vogl

Posted on 10/09/2011 6:59:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin is a very special American, she appeared to be our next Ronald Reagan, but with her deicsion not to run, what should we do?

Sarah Palin was my hope for America! And while her future was uncertain I was unwilling to listen to the babble of Republican Primary. I was set on Sarah. For me, she was the answer, and I honestly believed I would be able to cast a ballot, whether it be Republican or Independent for Sarah. Sarah seemed to have that rugged American personality which had not been corrupted by special interests and assimilated into the neo conservative view of globalism. Sarah appeared to be an America First candidate, one with an inherent optimism based on what she knew of America and our history.

When I read the headline stating her decision not to run it was like having the wind knocked out of me. My first emotion was disappointment, my second was futility. America is collapsing and it's not just economically. We are not an America of Christian values, our President has denied we are a Christian nation. I said to myself; I will just sit this one out, let America burn in its own selfishness and wait for the only remaining political answer, secession!

And, if Sarah was driven out of the race by the “politics of personal destruction” then we deserve every evil which happen to us.

But then God got into the act. This morning while preparing for Mass I turned on CNN, to see first Herman Cain and then Michelle Bachmann interviewed by a heavy set liberal woman named Candy.

My first impression of the interview questioning was the obvious bias in every word said by Candy. Her point of view had two purposes, one to create tension between the half dozen Republicans running for office and secondly to demean first Herman and then Michelle. No questions were asked which attempted to find out the issues and positions of either candidate. Instead questions were intended to establish false realities, or to minimalize the political potential of either candidate. Candy did her best to walk these two Republican conservatives into discussions which could not help them with the electorate. And in every case the two were smart enough to avoid the purpose of the question. At one point, in obvious frustration, Candy said to one of the candidates, “would you admit you have avoided the question?" The answer given seemed to say; no, I just didn't answer it the way you wanted me to!

This was my first time to listen to either of the candidates for any extended period of time and I was impressed by both of them.

Herman Cain is for real. He has lived, risen in the business community, has life experience and seems to have a solid intellectual and character foundation. And one great advantage for Cain is that he is an African American and can speak to issues of race without having to couch his terms in apologies and understatement. Cain also knows business and knows the American economy cannot be engineered to take off through government projects.

Michelle Bachmann is very sharp in her interview skills and knows her views on governance. She also knows politics. My great worry about Michelle is that Congresspersons normally don't have a large enough electoral base to translate into at least a statewide start. Michelle has an advantage over Herman in that she knows what being elected to office means. She knows the connection between office and constituency and policy. And she has an understanding of legislative politics that only someone serving, or their staffs, can know.

Where Herman and Michelle are equal is that they are both excellent thinkers and speakers and they both seem to have a solid conservative philosophical base.

So this morning when I woke up I was sitting out the GOP primary, and by the time I got into the truck to drive to Mass I was reinvigorated by the choice of these two Americans. Thank you God.


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KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; crymeariver; obama; palin; sarahpalin
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I wish Mr. Cain had some elective experience. I don't believe that Rep. Bachmann should be running for president, she isn't at that level, IMO.
1 posted on 10/09/2011 6:59:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I wish Mr. Cain had some elective experience. I don’t believe that Rep. Bachmann should be running for president, she isn’t at that level, IMO. “

Cain’s running mate will take care of that issue. The only thing that matters now is that we get a conservative who doesn’t coddle illegals and understands Islam and there’s only one left in the top tier.

Someone like Newt, or someone else with a good deal of time in federal office, will give Cain all the help he needs there.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 7:03:42 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So far I am really liking Cain, I like how he speaks what he feels, shows no fear. I like that a lot..and I think the left is terrified he will win, he will make mince meat out of Obama


3 posted on 10/09/2011 7:05:30 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Think for yourself, maybe? Stop being a cultist? Just be a patriot. That’s enough.


4 posted on 10/09/2011 7:05:30 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You don’t get elected Governor of the most conservative state in the union three times if you’re not doing a good job. Perry has a solid conservative executive governing record for the last 11 years. He’s worked hard to keep his state competitive in creating jobs, keeping taxes low with restraints on spending. Along with serious tort reform and reductions in regulations.

If he became potus Perry would govern as a fiscal conservative and reign in spending and regulations. With a GOP Congress on his side Perry would also lower taxes, then work on real entitlement and tax reform. Those policies and rolling back Obamacare would set in motion serious economic growth that would help to create jobs everywhere in America.

Perry supports a strong military and national defense, lower taxes and less spending, limited govt, tax-tort-regulation and entitlement reform, is pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, pro-family, pro-Constitution, opposes blanket amnesty and has worked to secure the Tex-Mex border. Now he wants the Feds to finish the job that Texas started.

Perry is a Reagan conservative. All the way.


5 posted on 10/09/2011 7:06:21 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
but with her deicsion not to run, what should we do?

Keep spamming more articles about her on FR, in a fervent, desperate effort to give her, and her rabid followers, more validation.

6 posted on 10/09/2011 7:06:55 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Chill out and see how the remainder of the field develops.


7 posted on 10/09/2011 7:07:00 PM PDT by RichInOC (Sarah Palin is at war with the left. Most Freepers are just playing the video game.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I liked Palin myself- although for me it was more a vote to spite the people who didn’t like her, although she was more qualified than either of the two presidential candidates in ‘08. At the moment I’m considering Mr. Cain strongly- I kind of like the thought that if he runs, it makes it rather hard for an Obamabot to call me a racist if I vote for him. It would be nice if the Repubs could get a candidate the caliber of Washington, Jefferson, etc, but they don’t. You are right in saying he doesn’t have a lot of experience in government, but, then again, that might be a plus....


8 posted on 10/09/2011 7:08:50 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: BobL; 2ndDivisionVet
Someone like Newt, or someone else with a good deal of time in federal office, will give Cain all the help he needs there.

After Newt played kissy face with Nasty Pelosi in the Global Warming propaganda piece, he'd be a campaign killer. Try again.

9 posted on 10/09/2011 7:09:19 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm still wondering why she is still talking like a candidate...plus Peter Singleton of Organize4Palin said they are not going away either...I wonder whats up

"Palin talked about her corporate tax plan in her speech in St. Louis on October 7th. She said it would “manifest the belief that if given a level playing field, everyone will have the opportunity to thrive.” She said that eliminating the federal corporate income tax, corporate welfare, loopholes, and bailouts would “create an explosion of real job growth” and “break the back of crony capitalism.” Palin believes her plan would send the message to job-creating corporations that “we’ll unshackle you from the world’s highest federal corporate income tax rate but you’ll stand on your own. You will fall or succeed on your own, just like the rest of us on Main Street.”
10 posted on 10/09/2011 7:09:33 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If you are a Palin Patriot what should you do now?

Grow up and stop worshipping false idols, leave that to the Obama worshippers. In other words, get a life.

11 posted on 10/09/2011 7:12:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Something similar happened to me.
I was invited to see breitbart in Orlando the same day as CPAC.
Note, at that point in time I was disgusted with our choice of candidates (at least the two that had a chance of winning the GE.

Afterwards I wandered upstairs and happened upon a chance to hear Mr. Cain speak.

When I left and eventually entered the parking garage. I stopped and stood there for a minute. OMG !!

I was overwhelmed. He is AWESOME!! The real deal.

I hadn’t been so excited since Reagan and then Sarah.

I’m in for the long haul.

I painted Cain 2012 on the back of my new SUV with white shoe Polish.

I have been blogging ever sense.

God speed Mr. Cain!!


12 posted on 10/09/2011 7:13:07 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Something similar happened to me.
I was invited to see breitbart in Orlando the same day as CPAC.
Note, at that point in time I was disgusted with our choice of candidates (at least the two that had a chance of winning the GE.

Afterwards I wandered upstairs and happened upon a chance to hear Mr. Cain speak.

When I left and eventually entered the parking garage. I stopped and stood there for a minute. OMG !!

I was overwhelmed. He is AWESOME!! The real deal.

I hadn’t been so excited since Reagan and then Sarah.

I’m in for the long haul.

I painted Cain 2012 on the back of my new SUV with white shoe Polish.

I have been blogging ever sense.

God speed Mr. Cain!!


13 posted on 10/09/2011 7:13:22 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: BobL

>> Someone like Newt, or someone else with a good deal of time in federal office, will give Cain all the help he needs there.

Let me get this straight. You despise Rick Perry to the point of obsession, and you’re not shy about making that view known here. Yet you think *Newt Gingrich* should be a heartbeat away from the presidency?

I don’t get that line of reasoning *at all*.


14 posted on 10/09/2011 7:13:34 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Get on with your life, decide who to support next and do it. Quit obsessing about your lost love. She's home with her family.
15 posted on 10/09/2011 7:14:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“she appeared to be our next Ronald Reagan”

Appearances are obviously deceiving.

16 posted on 10/09/2011 7:15:44 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Let me get this straight. You despise Rick Perry to the point of obsession, and you’re not shy about making that view known here. Yet you think *Newt Gingrich* should be a heartbeat away from the presidency?”

I was answering a question...sorry if you’re so high-strung tonight.

I don’t really care who the VP is...I’m just answering his concern. Now take your meds and CALM DOWN.


17 posted on 10/09/2011 7:16:12 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: Grizzled Bear

“After Newt played kissy face with Nasty Pelosi in the Global Warming propaganda piece, he’d be a campaign killer. Try again. “

Probably not a campaign killer (Cain will be it), but you have a point. Like I just said, I don’t care who ends up as VP, but if the right choice is made, the experience issue is moot.


18 posted on 10/09/2011 7:17:35 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of us TEA people in my state are busy looking at Senate and House candidates on both the state and local levels as well as possible challengers to our Rinos on the federal level. We remain in throw the bums out mode.

I’m busy vetting the rest of the field, specifically Herman Cain. He hasn’t much of a record but he does put forth plans and ideas. So far I’m concerned about the 999 Plan and the Chilean healthcare and retirement accounts model he is proposing.

He claims the Chilean Model is a success, but the deeper I dig I see it going downhill. They reformed it in ‘08 and it would appear to need another intervention now.

The 999 plan is creating havoc with the poor, many formerly lower/midlevel middle class now amongst the poor. They are being subsidized to survive, including the retirement and healthcare provisions of the Chilean Model.

I’m not liking it much.

I honestly do not know who I’ll support in the primary. Obviously I’ll support the nominee for POTUS in the general. I’m less than thrilled with the remaining candidates.


19 posted on 10/09/2011 7:17:53 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Palin is playing pan-dimensional chess, while all others are soiling their diapers at the thought of running against her. She is doing something (not sure what exactly) PRECISELY like Sun Tzu would do it, so DON’T WORRY. Even though she is not running, she WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be the next POTUS. She’s just that brilliant, or, to quote Sun Tzu, “Those who do not run, alway become president.” Ahhh, so!


20 posted on 10/09/2011 7:17:56 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Cain and I guess he’s now my 1st-choice, but in a way I can’t really bring myself to get excited all that much in his campaign, because I have the distinct feeling he’s going to get deep-sixed before long. Doesn’t he have thousands of hours of radio-show material, which all sorts of out-of-context snippets could be taken? Plus, Cain has had a terrible tendency to let the media lure him down right down their garden-path. Seems to really portend trouble down the line.


21 posted on 10/09/2011 7:19:02 PM PDT by greene66
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To: smoothsailing

Palin is a “false idol?” How so? I picked her because I’m tired of “great men” who stream into Washington to make a name for themselves and get connected to power and money. Palin eschews power, she loves her country only. I believe that. Sue me.


22 posted on 10/09/2011 7:19:07 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: BobL

>> I was answering a question...

OK, so I’m *asking* a question. Please answer mine. How could you support a goofy RINO like Gingrich when you hold yourself out as an arbiter of all things conservative and spit continuously on Perry, who is ten times the conservative Newt Gingrich is?

I’m calm enough — just incredulous at your cluelessness (at best) or selective hypocrisy (at worst).


23 posted on 10/09/2011 7:22:05 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

I have said before that her instincts are keen when it comes to politics. If she navigates this minefield I would count it as a masterstroke. I’m reminded of a scene from The Hunt for Red October-

“The hard about playing chicken Mr. Ryan, is knowing when to flinch.”


24 posted on 10/09/2011 7:22:47 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think the Palin supporters should just relax. There is no need to get on board with any other candidate immediately. Keep up with what is going on and know there is plenty of time to figure out who you are going to vote for.
25 posted on 10/09/2011 7:23:47 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: Reagan Man

No.

Not sure Texas is, as you put it, “the most conservative state in the union.” We’re a mixed bag, especially around Austin and in the Valley.

We’re an independent bunch and don’t mind thumbing our nose at Washington and doing things right for ourselves, but there’s a healthy mix of libertarianism and orneryness that flavors that “conservatism” to which you refer. Mostly, we want the feds to leave us alone, and Perry’s greatest achievement has been in sassing Washington.

On in-state matters, he gets a C minus at best. He’s backstabbed us on many issues. My pet peeve has been his dogged resistance to eminent domain reform. Perry has demonstrated that he thinks in Kelo terms.

And Perry got elected three times, not because he’s done such a good job, but rather because the Dems are so weak here that he has had no viable opposition.

He so angered his conservative base over the Trans-Texas Corridor that he won re-election in 2006 without a majority of the vote, just on a plurality.

Texan here, who will vote for Perry only if I have to.


26 posted on 10/09/2011 7:25:21 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Doctor 2Brains

That may be so, Doc. She definitely would have had my support and vote had she announced. I have to tell you, I’m sick of the game playing. The stakes are too high in this election and we need to be moving on to solutions, not playing cat and mouse games.


27 posted on 10/09/2011 7:25:54 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: HMS Surprise

Exactly right. I support Palin because her unique mix of traditional conservatism, western libertarianism, and mid-American populism is 100% in line with my own political philosophy to a “t.” No other politician/leader out there quite matches up. Added to this the incredible grace and courage she has demonstrated against the most mind-bogglingly viscious, all-out war to destroy her and her family, and I’m staying in her corner and supporting her no matter what route she takes!


28 posted on 10/09/2011 7:26:11 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Nervous Tick

“How could you support a goofy RINO like Gingrich when you hold yourself out as an arbiter of all things conservative and spit continuously on Perry, who is ten times the conservative Newt Gingrich is?”

I don’t “spit” on Perry, I just point out his weakness, like coddling illegals, calling us heartless, you know, the usual stuff that I never hear conservatives doing.

As to your question. I just don’t get as wound up about the VP and I don’t have a big litmus test. In fact, I voted for Reagan in 1980, fully knowing that the MODERATE, George H. W. Bush was also on the ballot. I assume that you would have instead voted for Carter (or Anderson), or sat it out?


29 posted on 10/09/2011 7:26:40 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: BobL

>> As to your question. I just don’t get as wound up about the VP and I don’t have a big litmus test.

Fair enough.

So if Cain wins the nomination and chooses either Perry or Gingrich for VP, which one would you prefer?


30 posted on 10/09/2011 7:29:15 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
I agree, Palin is still tactical.
31 posted on 10/09/2011 7:29:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is more conservative? Cain or Perry?


32 posted on 10/09/2011 7:32:55 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: greene66

It’s no wonder that good people don’t seek office. I suspect, and have said this already, that it was probably the incident in Hollyweird with the middle-aged gay creep attacking Bristol that made her decision for her. If it were just her, she wouldn’t care. But I honestly think she is deeply committed to her family and is tired of the attacks from sickos. It is a tactic from the left to force decent honest people into the shadows in order to preserve their deviant agenda. At some point someone is going to have to step up when Sarah is called a whore and do some good old-fashioned bitch-slappin’.


33 posted on 10/09/2011 7:36:28 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
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34 posted on 10/09/2011 7:36:32 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rick Santorum!!!!


35 posted on 10/09/2011 7:36:45 PM PDT by Anti-Christ is Hillary (If Moreen Dowd can call herself a journalist then so can I.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But then God got into the act.

God has always been "in the act". He still is.

I guess the writer didn't listen to Sarah Palin. I have to find her quote!

Otherwise it's a good column.

Sarah Palin supporters: keep your options open, choose wisely and pray non stop.

We'll find our TEA PARTY PATRIOT in this field.

As for me, I'm listening to "their words" carefully.

I'm very fortunate. I met our conservatives in person, in Tampa and spoke to all personally. I liked every one of them. Michele Bachmann was particulary nice to me, as were Herman Cain, Speaker Newt and Governor Perry (who kissed me on my right cheek).

Ditto for Romney, but I said *conservatives*.....lol.

36 posted on 10/09/2011 7:36:45 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! Compiling New Sarah Palin Ping List! Tell me if you want on it!)
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To: Nervous Tick

“So if Cain wins the nomination and chooses either Perry or Gingrich for VP, which one would you prefer?”

Between those two...probably Perry, just because the MSM would have a field day with Newt’s personal life and make him into another Quayle. Perry would not be as much baggage. But given that Cain really needs someone who’s been around the block in DC, maybe some Senator (or former Senator), but no name comes to the top of my mind.


37 posted on 10/09/2011 7:38:11 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: HMS Surprise

Palin is fine, it’s the mindless worship of her that I find offputting.


38 posted on 10/09/2011 7:40:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Apples and oranges.

Since Cain has never held political office, he is a debate society Conservative. Talks the talk, but no way to tell how he would walk the walk. He’s an empty vessel.

With his extensive political experience, Perry is an excellent governing conservative. He has to deal with real world issues, been re-elected in a conservative state, and maintained a fairly steady conservative direction. As it is when you work a real job, you make mistakes, lose some battles, and say occasional stupid things. Overall, he’s done a lot of good things for Texas and should be a steady President.


39 posted on 10/09/2011 7:40:54 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte

Cain is an empty vessel huh........................Phhhtttt


40 posted on 10/09/2011 7:42:19 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: smoothsailing

So I support someone... who’s ‘fine’... and that’s a... problem? Why are you here?


41 posted on 10/09/2011 7:44:21 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can go to hell.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Newt’s far and away the smartest and most capable of the bunch. I’m as anti AGW crap as the next guy and was very disappointed. But I’ll forgive him that one apostacy in return for the intellectual firepower he brings. I’d LOVE to see him debating Filth!

Hank


42 posted on 10/09/2011 7:45:49 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Ping me to join my anti-Christadelphian list - The best arcane religious doctrinal squabbling on FR!)
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To: smoothsailing

It’s a bit like being a Detroit Tigers fan.

If after so much disappointment for so many years, finally this year the team rolls to the championship. A winning team unlike any in recent history.

Fans have reserved their world series tickets.

And the Tigers announce they decided not to play.


43 posted on 10/09/2011 7:45:51 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Santorum: Plan B to a certain Grizzly.)
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To: eyedigress

Yep. Look at his legislative record, and all the executive decisions he’s made in his political career.

Oh, wait.

C’mon. Cain can be everything to everyone because he has NO RECORD. If that appeals to you, fine.


44 posted on 10/09/2011 7:47:19 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Reagan Man

“You don’t get elected Governor of the most conservative state in the union three times if you’re not doing a good job. Perry has a solid conservative executive governing record for the last 11 years. “

You mean the most conservative state that gave us George W Bush and his Father George H W Bush?

Oh and earlier in the last century the state that gave us LBJ, probably one of the most destructive presidents this country has seen.

Seems like they may have a problem distinguishing an establishment/rino republican from REAL conservatives.


45 posted on 10/09/2011 7:47:49 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: BobL

Good answer — not because you picked Perry, but because you demonstrated that whatever opposition you have to him is principled, not petty.

I don’t always agree with you, but I can resume taking you seriously. :-)

FRegards


46 posted on 10/09/2011 7:47:57 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Month after month passes as candidates get into, and out of, the race. Sarah does nothing. She doesn’t jump in. Finally with deadlines approaching to get on the ballot, she says you know what, not running. People are shocked?

Some of us could have told you that months ago. If she cared
she would have jumped in a long time ago. Debated the likes
of Romney, Cain, Perry, etc. If she’s as talented as people think she would go strongly into the primaries. But:

a) Waiting so long pissed many of us off

b) Idolatry...yes we can respect and admire those who might someday become president but this was venturing into
Obama terrority: YES WE CAN, YOU BETCHA!

c) Impossible to predict what would happen in primaries.
She could have entered and done well, or been a bust,
but she never declared. For the guy declaring her “Madam
President” maybe someday, but it would help if she actually had declared before people assume she and Todd will move
into the White House on 1/20/13.

Maybe someday...


47 posted on 10/09/2011 7:48:46 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Nervous Tick

“I don’t always agree with you, but I can resume taking you seriously. :-)”

Thanks appreciate it. Have a good evening.


48 posted on 10/09/2011 7:50:03 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: magritte

What the hell do you consider a record.


49 posted on 10/09/2011 7:50:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah said that we need to be involved to effect change. Sort of an “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for” comment. But in our case this means that we take action - not wait for government to hand us someone else’s money.

I agree with Sarah, she couldn’t ever have done this alone - and even though she isn’t running for POTUS - she is leading us. We need to stay involved and vigorously defend our country and support our candidates.


50 posted on 10/09/2011 7:50:58 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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