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A Questioning Look at Herman Cain
momenomics ^ | October 12, 2011 | Elizabeth

Posted on 10/13/2011 7:36:43 AM PDT by MomEnomics

Let me start out by saying that I like Herman Cain. I think his story is inspiring, I think he is a great orator, and I like (in some ways) that he isn't a career politician. However, the more I learn about Herman Cain and his 9-9-9 plan the less I want him to be the President of the United States.

Although, I like the "idea" of having a non-politician as our leader, in many ways it bothers me that he has no elected official record. Politics is a nasty business and if someone has never experienced it and we have no record of how that person would react under pressure, it is more than a little disconcerting. Washington and politics changes people. How many times have you seen a freshman congressman or senator go into his first year with high ideals and great ideas only to come out exactly the same as every other politician? There are politicians who have been able to stick to their principles but many times we don't know what will happen with these politicians until they have been in office for several years and here we are wanting to give the highest office in the land to a man who has NO record. Not a local record, not a state record, and certainly not a national record. All we have are his words and as we already know talk is cheap.

To read the remaining blog post go to the following link: http://momenomics.blogspot.com/2011/10/questioning-look-at-herman-cain.html

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1 posted on 10/13/2011 7:36:45 AM PDT by MomEnomics
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To: MomEnomics

I want Cain for president. His 999 will be worked out. I don’t career politicians in DC.


2 posted on 10/13/2011 7:41:32 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: MomEnomics

Go pimp your blog elsewhere. IBTZ.


3 posted on 10/13/2011 7:43:10 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: MomEnomics

This is actually a very good article. You should have posted the whole thing.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 7:43:58 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: Huck

You love anything that attacks Cain.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 7:44:51 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: MomEnomics

Cain has a significant record of positive achievements. A president seldom gets what he wants. Remember it’s Congress that ultimately writes the legislation. The 9 9 9 plan will go through some changes. That Cain has tackled one of the most difficult problems facing this country and is willing to speak out when a true politician equivocates, speaks volumes.

Cain is the right man at a critical time for this country. The last thing we need now is a politician who knows how to get along by going along. Congress is going to be in the unenviable position of facing someone who won’t hesitate to take them to the woodshed if they don’t shape up.

When you study how many are coming out against Cain, you can tell Cain threatens the status quo that got us into this situation. Cain, to his credit, is not a person who will muddle through. He’s going to hold a lot of feet to the fire.


6 posted on 10/13/2011 7:50:32 AM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: MomEnomics

A person who succeeds in business ethically, he’ll likely be an ethical politician.

People tend to be consistent in their behaviour.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 7:52:11 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If it attacks his candidacy for the right reasons, absolutely. The sooner the GOP electorate wises up, the better.


8 posted on 10/13/2011 7:53:26 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: MomEnomics
People not experienced with the details of the Left’s insane agenda and their legislative tricks, are easy prey because it “sounds” good.

Only experience permits a president to project the consequences of action down the road on how it will used against the country as it is implemented by leftists.

For example, Palin was taken in by the horrid speech of military funeral protesters and supported a state's “hate speech” laws that forbade them to protest military funerals.

In a moment of emotionally driven tunnel vision, she did not see that if the Supreme Court upheld this state law, she would soon be a target of “hate speech” laws enacted by leftists all over the country and in the Federal government.

A leader has to have had the experience in National politics and law to understand how the left’s “camel nose under the tent” operates and project where it will go. Cain is a walking talking victim, waiting to happen in this sense. On the other hand, you would have to get up pretty early in the morning to trick Newt of Perry. Romney would gladly use this strategy against the US and our constitution as he did in Massachusetts.

9 posted on 10/13/2011 7:53:26 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: MomEnomics; humblegunner; shibumi; Eaker; 50mm; TheOldLady; Allegra; Larry Lucido; 999replies; ...
 

10 posted on 10/13/2011 7:56:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MomEnomics

Why keep harping on his tax plan. It hasn’t got a snowvballs chance i hell of passing anyway.

Maybe we should just keep Obama’a plan and go on borrowing and robbing the hard working 53%,until we go bankrupt and collapse.
Yes: Tax those oil companies and raise the price of fuel, that will work
Yes ;Tax those corporations and raise the cost of their products. That works great too.

Take away the rich mans incentive to make more money so that he either moves to another country or quits making money. That will work too.

Elect John J. Gahootinbollock if we have to , but get this lunatic ,Narcissist, Racist ,Mutt out of the White House.


11 posted on 10/13/2011 7:58:41 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: MomEnomics

I think a lot of people on our side are trying to be cute thinking that:

- Anyone we put up is the automatic winner in November.
- Romney isnt running this year.
- You have just a wonderful selection of choices waiting in the background. YOU DONT.

So my suggestions to the conservative electorate is to get behind someone NOW, stop trying to write everything to death and remember that the mission is to get rid of Obama not to feel 100% ok with the conservative nominee.


12 posted on 10/13/2011 8:08:29 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: MomEnomics
Nice thoughts and legit concerns on his experience.

But your options at this point are:
Vote for someone you know has been corrupted by the current establishment

or

Vote for the outsider who has not been corrupted but there is possibility he may be.

That is why I was supporter of Palin, She has proved she will stand firm on her values, but it may be easier in Alaska then Washington

13 posted on 10/13/2011 8:10:20 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: MomEnomics

“...in many ways it bothers me that he has no elected official record...”

I have two word reply that must be fully answered before I give a .... about this blog: Barack Obama.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 8:12:23 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Huck

The GOP electorate has wised up, that’s why La Raza Rick and Slick Willard ain’t going anywhere.


15 posted on 10/13/2011 8:15:29 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Da Coyote
and I have two other words:

Ron Johnson.

16 posted on 10/13/2011 8:15:37 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" ...H Cain.."to correct the last one" MGM)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You love anything that attacks Perry and can make an attack on Perry where one doesn't exist, so I guess you can dish it out but can't take it!

Why should you have a monopoly on attacks?

"9 9 9"

The rate's too damn high!

17 posted on 10/13/2011 8:15:57 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Jonty30

Cain is a successful businessman?

=8-)


18 posted on 10/13/2011 8:15:57 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: lonestar

I think the real opposition to Cain amongst certain FReepers has less to do with positions and more to do with skin.


19 posted on 10/13/2011 8:17:25 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: MomEnomics
To read the remaining blog post go to the following link

Why not post it here?

Do you need blog hits? Is that how you make your money?

What do you use the money for? Do you smoke crack?

Do you get all cracked up and commit crimes?

Pimping your blog here is a crime.

There you go.

20 posted on 10/13/2011 8:18:00 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: SaraJohnson
On the other hand, you would have to get up pretty early in the morning to trick Newt ...

World Trade Organization supporting Newt?
Most Favored Nation Status for China Newt?
Global Warming Snuggles with Nancy Newt?
Member of the Council on Foreign Relations Newt?
Sabotaged the Clinton impeachment to cover his own infidelity Newt?

By get up pretty early you mean mid afternoon, right?

21 posted on 10/13/2011 8:23:10 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

I think turning around a business that has a 100 franchises or so is evidence of a certain level of competence, yes.

I think there are other qualities. If Cain was a drunk or womanizer or something that indicated that he may be unfit for office, it would have likely filtered out to the media by now and it would have been mentioned.

For example, even when Clinton was first running for president the public knew, despite a near-media blackout, that he was a womanizer.

And as the CEO of the federal government, it’s mostly his ability to pick competent people that will determine his success as president.

We all know Obama’s ability on that matter, don’t we. :)


22 posted on 10/13/2011 8:24:20 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Pan_Yan

Newt was not tricked with these stances. He’s a trickster himself.

He is not a conservative except when it is time for the “conservative” professor to put on a show for conservative votes.

He’s a citizen of the world and his ideology is globalism’s “third way.” He throws in with the elitist traitors every chance he gets. He is not tricked.


23 posted on 10/13/2011 8:31:27 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: MomEnomics

” - - - I think I would have an easier time accepting his words if he could actually stick to those words but not only has he flip flopped numerous times - I would say he has outright lied in some instances.

These are just two examples (there are others) of Herman Cain saying one thing and then changing his story, whether it was because he wasn’t knowledgeable enough to understand the question and he didn’t want to sound stupid or because political pressure was applied, he changed his story and sometimes within a very short time. - - - “

Hi MomE. Above is a direct copy of a part of your article.

Note the gap between the upper and lower parts of your text. That gap is where you stopped writing and inserted TVspeak clips.

Yep, you just can’t bring yourself to write the words that you can be held to, now can you?

No, No, NOT Mommy E! You rely on the smoke-and-mirror sound bites of our sorry, tabloid, pop-culture “main-stream-media” to help us “feel” your point.

You can run, but you cannot hide here at FR.

If you are going to make a point on FR, then, at a minimum, have the courage to put it into words that YOU can defend. Got it?

BTW, we at FR love to have reasoned DIALOG, so adding a rational viewpoint would be a refreshing touch to any future articles that you may choose to post here on FR.

BTW, BTW, are you into numerology? Come on! It is fun! Watch: 9 + 9 + 9 = 27. Then: 2 + 7 = 9.

BTW, BTW, BTW, a Nine out of Ten is what I now give Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 Tax EVERYBODY Plan. I’ll give him a Ten once 9-9-9 becomes the law of the land.


24 posted on 10/13/2011 8:31:37 AM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I think the real opposition to Cain amongst certain FReepers has less to do with positions and more to do with skin.

That is a pigment of your imagination!

This FReeper didn't have a problem with the color of his skin until he made an issue about the color of his skin! Personality wise, I like him...that he brings some humor to this mess!

But now that you mention it, how many FReepers would be giving him the time of day if not for the color of his skin?

Is he being held to a different standard?

I can think of a lot of Blacks who are a lot more, accomplished and conservative, than Herman Cain.

He is not experienced POTUS material, IMO. He has run for office before and didn't get to first base. Why now? Huh? Huh? Is he being used?

25 posted on 10/13/2011 8:39:50 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Jonty30

Jay Raskin

Opednews.com

Worthy read this morning - completely different picture of Cain appears.

=8-)


26 posted on 10/13/2011 8:41:39 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: lonestar
"I can think of a lot of Blacks who are a lot more, accomplished and conservative, than Herman Cain."

Name 'em.

27 posted on 10/13/2011 8:41:46 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: humblegunner

And to think they call liberals nasty and foul mouthed. :o) If you don’t want to go to my blog to read the post then don’t but it does give you the option to have an excerpt from the blog so if that is a crime so be it but I will wait to hear from the people who actually run the site. Thanks for your kind comments.


28 posted on 10/13/2011 8:46:16 AM PDT by MomEnomics
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

I’ll look at it.

I’m not personally expecting perfect Conservatives, because I’m not perfectly conservative in everything, (and neither are you :) )

But I do want somebody sincerely so.


29 posted on 10/13/2011 8:49:18 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: MomEnomics

“I will wait to hear from the people who actually run the site.”

Here you go.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2636843/posts?page=552#552

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2722423/posts


30 posted on 10/13/2011 8:52:11 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: Vendome

Hope you don’t mind if I steal that pic. :-)


31 posted on 10/13/2011 8:53:16 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha-olam shehecheyanu v'kiyimanu v'higi'anu laz'man hazeh.)
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To: MomEnomics

32 posted on 10/13/2011 8:53:49 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha-olam shehecheyanu v'kiyimanu v'higi'anu laz'man hazeh.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"I can think of a lot of Blacks who are a lot more, accomplished and conservative, than Herman Cain."

Name 'em.

Are you serious?

Thomas Sowell

Condoleeza Rice

Wallace Jefferson

Ken Blackwell

J.C. Watts

Armstrong Williams

to name a few off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a lot more!

33 posted on 10/13/2011 9:03:40 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: MomEnomics

“...we have no record of how that person would react under pressure,...” Of course, the role of CEO in the private sector doesn’t involve any sort of pressure. Climbing to the top of the heap doesn’t require political astuteness. I usually express appreciation for my first lol of the day in PM, but....


34 posted on 10/13/2011 9:09:22 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (If this creature is not stopped it could make its way to Novosibirsk!)
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To: lonestar

OK, let’s look at them.

Thomas Sowell <—Good man, but way too old (82 next year)

Condoleeza Rice <—Regarded as a RINO. Not very popular amongst the Conservative base, questions about her sexuality.

Wallace Jefferson <—Texas Jurist.

Ken Blackwell <—Good man, I considered him a top contender for RNC Chairman. Unfortunately, had a disastrous showing in the OH Governor’s race.

J.C. Watts <—Somewhat unreliable who has been out of the spotlight for awhile, made comments favorable to supporting Zero.

Armstrong Williams <—Talkshow host, no particular problems.

However, since none of these individuals are running for President, Cain is the best candidate running.


35 posted on 10/13/2011 9:12:22 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; MomEnomics

Was that really necessary? MomEnomics is a newbie who’s been here all of one month. Why not cut her some slack and explain the ‘blog pimping’ thing to her before resorting to public ridicule?


36 posted on 10/13/2011 9:12:22 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jonty30

Looked at it myself...also followed his link to his blog where he ended up in a prolonged discussion with 2 others.

Although more research is needed - such as official profit/loss statements and the like...it does take us back to debate night...where myself and a few other Freepers pointed out the obvious:

Cain lied about his flip-flop on the Fed when addressed about it by Ron Paul.

That raises questions...this concern lends more.

=8-)


37 posted on 10/13/2011 9:18:08 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

Cain being part of the fed, at state level, doesn’t concern me because it’s a different animal then the Fed at the national level.

All the state fed does, as I understand it, is to ensure that banks have liquidity for their daily business. It doesn’t set policy of any kind.


38 posted on 10/13/2011 9:28:55 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

You paht O’ duh Posse?

Geh head....


39 posted on 10/13/2011 9:32:43 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MomEnomics; humblegunner

Well, funny you should ask about a word from our sponsors, erh, Jim Thompson's cousin:

 

Jim Rob on bloggers:

"I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.

If a blogger can’t or refuses do that, and if he constantly complains or fights with our participants over it, then I’d just as soon he doesn’t post here.

It’s not my job to make his content or his presentation or cooperation acceptable to our readers.

That’s his job.

And if he cannot do it or refuses to do it and continues posting brief excerpts only and obviously attempting to draw away our participants while loudly complaining about it, then I have no sympathy for his complaints and the more apt I am to ban his account and blog.


40 posted on 10/13/2011 9:36:13 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: MomEnomics
To read the remaining blog post go to the following link:

Why do we have to do that? Do you have copyright issues with yourself that you can't just post the whole thing here?

You are being a classic blog-pimp. Just post your whole blog entry and everything would be cool, nobody would be complaining about your attempt to steer hits to your website.

41 posted on 10/13/2011 9:54:26 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I think the real opposition to Cain amongst certain FReepers has less to do with positions and more to do with skin.

I'm disappointed you managed to play the race card in less than 20 posts into the blog-pimp's thread. Especially disappointed you could spend a decade on FR and not grasp this. For shame. Peddle your race war elsewhere.

42 posted on 10/13/2011 9:58:52 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: MomEnomics

Welcome to FR, Newbie. Who’s your candidate? And did you know that FreeRepublic is a conservative forum? We believe in the US Constitution and the Constitution makes no requirement that a candidate for the presidency be an experienced politician. None. In fact, kids in this country have grown up since its inception with the idea that they could aspire to the presidency and someday attain it. I see nowhere in the Constitution that requires one to become a career politician in order to attain that office. Do you?

So, are you saying that having career, inside-the-beltway, politicians is fine, and that our crop of potential candidates for the presidency should come through them? Or if not solely them, then perhaps our governorships? Is that where this idea against Herman Cain is leading? Bad, bad bad.

Oh, and thanks for pimping your blog...


43 posted on 10/13/2011 10:02:22 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: MomEnomics; humblegunner; Eaker; Allegra; Salamander; TheOldLady; thackney; ...
"Read-Share-Love my Blog"



(Oh, ~~~Please!~~~ Read-Share-Love my blog with me! I do ~so~ love it when you read-share-love my blog.....)


44 posted on 10/13/2011 10:03:26 AM PDT by shibumi (Oh baby, Lilly Munster. Ain't got nothing on you.)
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To: Windflier

Thank you for the defense. This is actually my first post here and nowhere does it say that information about posting to your blog - at least that you can find easily. Don’t worry the same mistake will not happen twice - I don’t feel like dealing with the so called Pimp Busters - who apparently ignore the rule about personal attacks. :o) Thanks again.


45 posted on 10/13/2011 10:06:05 AM PDT by MomEnomics
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To: Cyber Liberty

That comment was aimed squarely at a small group of so-called FReepers, especially one who made an audaciously racist comment regarding Cain the other day.


46 posted on 10/13/2011 10:08:58 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: MomEnomics
I don’t feel like dealing with the so called Pimp Busters

Those guys are jerks.

Thanks for understanding about excerpting and welcome to Free Republic.

47 posted on 10/13/2011 10:15:42 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: humblegunner; MomEnomics

I agree with you about the PimpBusters.

What a bunch o’ maroons!

Nothin’ but nin-cow-poops.

They should be punished by having cookies put on their hard drives and stuff like that.

Imagine! Making fun of such a bright (and lovely) new FReeper without even giving her the chance to learn the ropes.

Ashamed! That’s what they should be! Ashamed!


48 posted on 10/13/2011 10:23:25 AM PDT by shibumi (Oh baby, Lilly Munster. Ain't got nothing on you.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

OK. Sorry, I should have known you better.


49 posted on 10/13/2011 10:28:26 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: MomEnomics

I look forward to reading your blogs in the future, Mom. You sound like one of the good ones, so welcome to FR.


50 posted on 10/13/2011 10:35:17 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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